Why does pol hate people who switch genders?

Why does pol hate people who switch genders?

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They're delusional and they represent everything wrong with white people today. Weak, subverted, and have no honor.

Dressing and acting like the opposite gender ≠ switching to the opposite gender

its full on degenerate on the day of the rope you faggots wont be sparred

Shit argument. There have been gender variant people in nearly every culture since we have records.

Most people do not hate them for that. What people do not like is that we are being forced to play pretend with them.

Because as a gay man what I want, and haven't gotten, and that Trump has in the past publicly declared support for, is a law saying I cannot be fired from a job or denied equal access in any way because of my sexual orientation. In the U.S. I can gay marry now but can, in many states, be legally fired for being openly gay without consequence and the NWO fucks are pushing bathrooms instead of trying to fix that.

pushing trans shit onto young people as normal leads to more people getting irreversible hormone treatments before being fully developed and destroying their penises.

Post transition they aren't any happier because they don't actually change their sex.

Yes but we didn't give them surgery and hormones until more recently. I don't care if they want to dress however I don't think they should have the risks and costs or surgery or hormones, but rather therapy (most refuse to take meds or listen to a therapist), many are autistic (7%), and they just think being trans means they automatically deserve both sympathy and more recognition than us measly cisgays.

Because you can't.

>nearly every culture

lel

Tell me why I should like them without using buzzwords

>making shit up the post

looking forward to seeing the death squads cracking tranny skulls

SGDQ is full of trannys this year. Wtf?

One speed runner announced on camera that his beautiful "girlfriend" was 2 years into his transition. Here's the beautiful "lady" lads.

Gender-switching Kike.

Top Kek.

They really do look evil though, don't they.

can't switch genders, can only mutilate genitals or play dress up with fake tits

Because it's fucking gross

Well yes we gays have the same addiction and mental illness predispositions but I have never had the desire to look female or dress female and I suspect maybe 5-10% of trans are authentically SO gender variant as to essentially be intersex and the rest are doing it because they have failed as men and they figure they will have more power and money as women. Maybe the 7% of them who are autistic (highest of any group that I know of) GENUINELY believe those who are not intersex can transition but its a) a big fuck you to gay guys who don't want to and to ACTUAL intersex people who are ignored and never mentioned by SJW's b) it distracts us from advocating better laws and treatment of cis gays and lesbians, and c) it makes us cis gays look bad to straights because they think we approve of it. Its malingering at its WORST. They just want cosmetic surgery and are mostly drug addicts. I mean I like drugs and looking good too but I don't think they are some sort of right others should have to pay for. Most trans are male gay guys who are fem. FTM is a meme and represents a small fraction of them.

They want to speedrun life by contracting HIV

Oh look, its gender variant user!

I almost guarantee that if those gender variant people in the past had access to hormones they would take them. I mean hell, some Greek gender variant people castrated themselves during their life.

In Zapotec cultures of Oaxaca (southern Mexico), a muxe is an assigned male at birth individual who dresses and behaves in ways otherwise associated with the female gender; they may be seen as a third gender. Some marry women and have children while others choose men as sexual or romantic partners.

Femminielli or femmenielli is a term used to refer to a population of homosexual males with markedly feminine gender expression in traditional Neapolitan culture. It may be hard to define this term within modern Western notions of "gay men" versus "trans women" since both these categories overlap to a degree in the case of femminielli. It has been noted that this term is not derogatory and does not carry stigma, instead femminielli are traditionally believed to bring luck.

In Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh, the hijras are officially recognized as third gender by the government, being neither completely male nor female. In India also, transgender people have been given the status of third gender and are protected as per the law despite the social ostracism

An Enaree or Enarei was a Scythian shaman; described as effeminate or androgynous. Scythian shamanism involved religious ecstasy through the use of entheogens; they had no temples and worshipped the forces of nature. These are described by Philo and Manilius as men who use every artificial means to change their nature as men into women, they hate the sight of themselves a man

Fa'afafine are a third-gender people of Samoa and the Samoan diaspora. A recognized identity/role since at least the early 20th century in Samoan society, and some theorize an integral part of traditional Samoan culture, fa'afafine are male at birth, and explicitly embody both masculine and feminine gender traits

>Top lip
>Nostrils
>Hair
That thing should be gassed but for other reasons...

>shit argument

Nope. Stay salty, faggot.

Lol theres an MTF on soc who always posts that she's into speed running + trans have the HIGHEST hiv rate of the LGBT and like 20-30% of them are glorified prostitutes.

Castration though doesn't like fuck you up mentally like taking tons of titty skittles does.

I don't hate the mentally ill, I think they need help though

If a man acts like a woman or dresses like one, or a woman dresses like a man or acts like one, they should be put to death.

>hate people who switch genders
You can't really hate something that doesn't exist. You can however hate somebody for doing a really piss poor job at something, demanding that you acknowledge they did a good job, attempt to change how you define basic principles and then to top it all off demand you pay for the shitty job they just did.

If you are attracted to transwomen you are not straight. I want everyone to live safely and I would never discriminate myself, but these trans activists with their bullshit anti-straight language are offensive. Straight does not mean attracted to trans anything. You can call it transstraight and transgay if you want, but it sure as fuck isn't straight. Transwomen are antithetical to straight male sexuality.

>was 2 years into his transition.

They haven't been on hormones for 2 years, that's for sure.

shits going down in this pic

Most societies don't have much use for mentally ill people.

Why do people that switch genders hate pol?

Get out faggot.
sage

Fuck off shit skin. You are stinking out the thread.

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You shouldn't be allowed on Sup Forums if you don't study history

Cute nose.

>2nd from left's chin
lord have mercy

>that bulge

There is literally no logical argument against transgender people.

1. Transgender people suffer from a physical from of neuro-intersexuality. This is objective and empirical.

2. Transgender people empirically benefit from transition.

3. Gender variance has existed forever. It's part of the human condition.

You're literally a blue pilled little faggot if you disagree. This is the red pill on transgender people. It's reality. Not conjecture. Not cherry picking. It's reality and you are denying it which makes you no better than a SJW cuck that wants to worship dindus.

This is a disease that's spreading through the Internet. I'm serious. Ask yourself when these ideas of transitioning started. Of course you'll say since birth...

I honestly don't really have a problem with transgenders in general but just because a man gets surgery to become female or a woman gets surgery to become male then that doesn't really mean that they are now the opposite gender. Trans-females still have XY chromosomes (male) and they still have male organs inside and trans-males still have XX chromosomes (female) and they still have female organs inside. This may sound rude but its one of the laws of nature, nobody can really do much about it. If someone is born with a penis then their biologically male and if someone is born with a vagina then their biologically female. You can't break the laws of nature.

It's just flat out unnatural and creepy. We shouldn't support crazies lopping off their genitalia.

How do they benefit from transition?

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Films about traps were winning Oscars before most of you were born.

A scattering of trans throughout history isnt proof that that the trans and gender identity craze at the moment is just that, a passing fad.

Once people go back to being emo or goths or something trans will remain just been a small community in cities, old crossdressers and thai ladyboys like its always been.

This. They need to keep it on

Live and let live, but trans activists with their fascist vocabulary bullshit are the most annoying fucks around. No, being attracted to transwomen is not straight. It is its own unique thing. No straight man wants to fuck a transowoman.

>savages did it so we should too!!

This. And makes gays look bad I've had people ask me if I'm trans and its like um no. When I came out ten years ago as a teen I had never met a "trans" sure maybe 5% of us were "cross-dressers" and I knew they existed but they weren't deemed to be women trapped in mens bodies which I believe is 100% modern subversive propaganda. Most trans I have met refuse to listen to their doctors and are just plain psychotic and want drugs that make them feel good instead of antipsychotics PROVEN to reduce their dysphoria. The issue is we need better drugs for the sorts of autism and psychosis they have that don't make u fat (gay guys HATE getting fat).

Every country you have mentioned here amounted to nothing.

It's one hell of a coincidence that such an "oppressive" western society managed to go on and conquer the fucking globe when we never had a bunch of mentally ill fuckwits holding everyone back.

And now that we do take a look at the state we are in. It's almost as if trannies think the world only started existing a century ago and that our societies haven't had millennia to figure this shit out. There's a lot that can be said in a strong and healthy family unit.

Men with dicks come into lesbian / all female spaces and demand they suck their dick or else they're transmisogynistic.

Also trans people are regressing societies ideas on gender roles. Apparently now to be a woman you need to be super feminine! And if you want to be a feminine individual you can't be a man!

I don't, you just don't have to let them expose themselves to children in bathrooms and lockerrooms, and you can't indoctrinate children into accepting it. Let them be kids, and then once they are adults, they can learn about people switching genders.

No transition: quality of life decreases continuously
Transition: decent chance of quality of life improvement

No transition: suicide rate extremely high
Transition: suicide hate really high

Videos of police killing black people and police brutality are everywhere now despite crime being lower than it used to be. We live in the information age where everyone has a camera, everyone has a platform to share their lives, and the media can't hide everything despite their best efforts. Visibility of the worst parts of humanity is at an all time high despite health, safety, and technology being at an all time high.

Obviously yes some people are jumping on the bandwagon with the trans issue. Just like some people intentionally bait police to record videos of police brutality and etc. for attention. That doesn't mean real cases aren't legitimate. There are more than enough real, non-tumblr/college liberal transsexuals to justify giving them basic rights.

>Amounted to nothing
>Italy
>Amounted to nothing
>Greeks

we should treat the mental illness not their genitals

This: But here is empirical data:

>Heylans et al., 2014: "A difference in SCL-90 [a test of distress, anxiety, and hostility] overall psychoneurotic distress was observed at the different points of assessments (P = 0.003), with the most prominent decrease occurring after the initiation of hormone therapy (P < 0.001)...Furthermore, the SCL-90 scores resembled those of a general population after hormone therapy was initiated."

>Gomez-Gil et al., 2012: "SADS, HAD-A, and HAD-Depression (HAD-D) mean scores [these are tests of depression and anxiety] were significantly higher among patients who had not begun cross-sex hormonal treatment compared with patients in hormonal treatment (F=4.362, p=.038; F=14.589, p=.001; F=9.523, p=.002 respectively). Similarly, current symptoms of anxiety and depression were present in a significantly higher percentage of untreated patients than in treated patients (61% vs. 33% and 31% vs. 8% respectively)."

>Colizzi et al., 2013: "At enrollment, transsexuals reported elevated CAR ['cortisol awakening response', a physiological measure of stress]; their values were out of normal. They expressed higher perceived stress and more attachment insecurity, with respect to normative sample data. When treated with hormone therapy [at followup, 1 year after beginning HRT], transsexuals reported significantly lower CAR (P < 0.001), falling within the normal range for cortisol levels. Treated transsexuals showed also lower perceived stress (P < 0.001), with levels similar to normative samples."

>de Vries, et al., 2014 studied 55 trans teens from the onset of treatment in their early teenage years through a follow-up an average of 7 years later. They found no negative outcomes, no regrets, and in fact their group was slightly mentally healthier than controls.

what if they take antipsychotics? Where are the outcome longitudinal studies for those denied hormones and surgery but instead treated with cognitive or DBT + antipsychotics? Again the issue, is how shitty antipsychotics are and that we have no good actual way to deal with psychosis and people with SEVERE Body Dysmorphia (from what I've seen all gay guys, including myself, have it to some extent) but they make demands (the mtfs) and will not listen to doctors unless they get happy pills or free huge boobs.

Kill yourself you deranged permavirgin ugly Sup Forumstard faggot. Go back to your containment board and fap your tiny dick to tranny porn you pathetic loser.

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>titty skittles

>Enraged by empirical evidence

You are a blue billed little cuck who can't handle the truth.

So right after getting hormones they feel better but that's it? Methinks they just want to feel validated and thats what makes them feel better is doctors saying they are on the right pathogen though in reality their lives are in shambles and many have AIDS, drug additions, are prostitutes, autism, psychosis, and other fun. Doctors should be able to not humor them without consequence nor without discriminating against them, ignoring them, or failing to provide for any actual medicosocial needs they have but feeling shitty because your family rejected you for being gay so you go to a doctor and get happy pills (I did it, I'm gay) is NOT a permanent solution.

Medical treatment is based on a number of criteria. Can the illness be treated directly? What can be done to lesson the symptoms/improve quality of life?


The only method shown thus far to positively impact gender dysphoria is transition. Cognitive behavioral therapy does not lesson or impact transition and can in fact make the feelings worse. There are no medications that can treat gender dysphoria, aside from I believe a one-off case that has not been replicated.

>Where are the outcome longitudinal studies for those denied hormones and surgery but instead treated with cognitive or DBT + antipsychotics?
Typically no effect on treating feelings of dysphoria but increased chance of suicide.

The reason the medical community accepts transition is because, despite not being a consistently good solution, it is the only solution that works.

This is the issue, the crazy minority weeps the loudest irrationally, will not hear being told no, and demands change, even if most gay guys just think this is ridiculous.

>trying to pass anecdotal evidence off as empirical evidence

>blue billed
top jej

The Roman Emperor Elagabalus was apparently quite keen to find a surgeon who could give him a working cunt though.

Really? Plenty of data showing antineuroleptics help.

>dat nose

Don't care. DO care when they want to use the law (i.e. follow this or we take you to jail with guns) to force me to play along with their "poly queer demifluid annnovirgin breatharian" identity.

Can you pls kill yourself you wacko tranny loving neckbeard? You are pathetic and cringy.

Thus proving my theory that most trans we HEAR about (many are minority prostitutes who make more money dressing and presenting as females) are wealthy white males who want even more privilege then they already have.

Please link.

This.

Once the renaissance started.

The conclusion of that study is presented in a biased / flawed manner.

Mortality, suicidal behavior, and psychaitric morbidity of transsexuals who are post-op is definitely higher than the general population. However, it is still lower than transsexuals who are pre-op or pre-hormones.

No medical professional advocates transition as a be-all cure, but an attempt to make life more comfortable/bearable with those with dysphoria.

Good job, you have fallen for all of the memes.

>though in reality their lives are in shambles and many have AIDS, drug additions, are prostitutes, autism, psychosis, and other fun.

1. Many turn to sex work because holding a stable job while you transition is very difficult. There is no legal protection for transgender people. They can get fired for being transgender.

2. Aids is high in any group of people that have anal sex (anal transmits HIV easier + less condoms). Additionally sex work that transgender people often do to pay for transition adds to this.

3. There has never been an empirical link demonstrated autism and GID. This is anecdotal only. I have definitely noticed it a bit but it's still highly speculative consider sample bias since we are on Sup Forums.

4. Pyschosis mental illness drops significantly after trans people start transitioning. This has been observed and recorded.
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Taking powerful anti-psychotics to mask numb a person from a physiological abnormality inside the brain makes no sense. Why would these people not just transition instead of taking anti-pyschotic drugs that impact cognitive awareness, spatial processing, reaction time, and memory while creating chemical addiction?

So why is it just the West that shamelessly promotes it? The point is that transgender people are given license to spread their mental illness under the guise of fostering "pride". We don't glorify the bipolar, schizophrenic, or the autistic, yet we pile on the praise for those who mutilate their gentials and breed degeneracy.

i love gender changers
physically male cables are by far the most useful, but sometimes they need the help of a little female
two male cables can extend their power greatly by sharing a gender changer

And the fact they castrated themselves gives you no pause....

With today's tech and hormones if they want to change to strange

They can have at it.. But I don't have to accept them.. They have to accept themselves.
Their pain is silent, inward, and a mental disorder.
And before you get trigged, I have interviewed several for a doc I did. A doc that I closed down when I saw the lunacy. I couldn't support it one bit

Number of transsexuals in south america, asia, and middle east are each much higher than the number of transsexuals in the United States

there is more to being female than having high estrogen adn waering eye liner.

DNA and overies etc

Yeah sure having your genitals mutilated by some creepy jew sounds like a great "cure". What about locking those freaks in the insane asyluum?

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8839957
We have been using typical antipsychotics to brea it for decades. It WORKS in terms of parameters of reducing delusional thoughts, but have side fx like weight gain that many of them won't tolerate because a little secret that MANY Mtfs have is that they autistically believe that the Straight male Chad of their dreams will love them if only they take hormones, have long hair, and huge tits. Its fucking retarded. Its gay guys who are autistic/delusional enough to think they can fuck straight guys as women + prostitutes who make more money as crossdressers soliciting straight clients. It's not real and it hurts us actual gays and those who are intersex physically and don't get all the research dollars and attention.

I don't think getting a cunt would get you any more privilege if your already Emperor of the fucking Roman Empire.

>Citing Dhejne.

Her research was done over the course of 35 years and is split into 3 cohort groups. Literally only her first cohort (1978-1989) had any sign of elevated suicide rates, post-surgery regret, and crime.

Actually read her study all the way you stupid nigger. She has spoken out publicly multiple times about the misrepresentation of that abstract.

The second cohort (1989-2001) still shows these elevated risks but greatly diminished.

Here is the researchers words herself:
>Dhejne: People who misuse the study always omit the fact that the study clearly states that it is not an evaluation of gender dysphoria treatment. If we look at the literature, we find that several recent studies conclude that WPATH Standards of Care compliant treatment decrease gender dysphoria and improves mental health.

You linked the exact study I had already referenced. This has never been replicated and most likely demonstrates that the patient did not actually have gender dysphoria.

Seems like Gender Identity Disorder could be common.

1. No proof
2. Subjective argument
3. No proof

I'm not, because literally nobody has ever switched genders.

She was probably getting death threats by wacko tranny freaks. Trannies and their betacuck orbiters and allies are really intolerant of dissenting views.

It's spaniard sissies destiny to catch my kebab stick

>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8839957

Nice fucking meme. This isn't even a research paper. This is a single case study involving a sample size of ONE. On a person who was borderline learning disability and had a cross dressing sexual paraphilia. Vast majority of transgender people don't get off on wearing their own clothes.

But yeah, let's force trannys to take this totally safe drug:
More common:
Difficulty with speaking
dizziness or fainting
fast or irregular heartbeat
lack of facial expression
loss of balance control
mood or behavior changes
restlessness or need to keep moving
shuffling walk
slowed movements
stiffness of the arms and legs
swelling or soreness of the breasts (less common in males)
trembling and shaking of the fingers and hands
unusual secretion of milk (rare in males)

Less common or rare:
Difficulty with swallowing
inability to move the eyes
increased blinking or spasms of the eyelid
lip smacking or puckering
menstrual changes
muscle spasms, especially of the face, neck, or back
puffing of the cheeks
rapid or worm-like movements of the tongue
skin rash and itching
sore throat and fever
swelling of the face
uncontrolled chewing movements
uncontrolled movements of the neck, trunk, arms, or legs, including twisting movements
unusual bleeding or bruising
unusual facial expressions or body positions
yellow eyes or skin

Rare:
Convulsions (seizures)
difficult or unusually fast breathing
fast heartbeat or irregular pulse
fever (high)
high or low (irregular) blood pressure
increased sweating
loss of bladder control
muscle stiffness (severe)

No, she wasn't. She was just getting sick of idiots like you misrepresenting her findings:

Dhejne:
>Yes! It’s very frustrating! I’ve even seen professors use my work to support ridiculous claims. I’ve often had to respond myself by commenting on articles, speaking with journalists, and talking about this problem at conferences. The Huffington Post wrote an article about the way my research is misrepresented. At the same time, I know of instances where ethical researchers and clinicians have used this study to expand and improve access to trans health care and impact systems of anti-trans oppression.

>Of course trans medical and psychological care is efficacious. A 2010 meta-analysis confirmed by studies thereafter show that medical gender confirming interventions reduces gender dysphoria.

BUT INSTEAD OF ARGUING FOR LEGAL PROTECTIONS FOR LGBT for jobs and shit you want bathrooms. REEEEE Trannies GTFO of my Sup Forums I come here to avoid you /lgbt/ wing nuts. I have had PLENTY of anal sex and never gotten aids. Many do sex work where the clients ask them not to, or pay them more, to not wear condoms as it is more pleasurable and they often are MORE LIKELY than white gay guys who are cis to fuck non white gay guys who are more likely to carry HIV in the first place THATS how they get it and you won't put this narrative in the MSM. Also the autism in trans pops is never mentioned (7%), that most are MTF not FTM, that many are drug abusers and malingerers towards doctors and will not take antipsychotics when psychotic and would rather be homeless than do what a doctor tells them. I get that antipsychotics are bad because they make you fat and being fat as a gay guy is a death sentence for getting into relationships, but we need to focus on NEWER antipsychotics that aren't as unpleasant to take, don't make u gain as much weight, and LGBT anti-discrimination laws about firing people from jobs, or denying them housing, not fucking bathrooms.

Oh please they test MTF trans for autism all the time since they are already seeing a shrink and they often are on the spectrum. We cis gays don't think that we will be considered women by straight guys and thus be able to fuck the hot one of our dreams like they do because we realize being treated shitty is because women are treated shitty because they are more unstable with power and less intelligent and homophobia = misogyny. We gay guys are still treated poorly overall and this distraction to focus on a TINY fraction of the gay pop hurts the rest of us.

More to the point, all of these conditions are caused by a choice. Gender dysphoria is a real issue that cannot be escaped. Transitioning is a choice that is not forced upon the sufferer by any means. You CHOOSE to cut your penis off, you CHOOSE to have promiscuous unprotected sex, you CHOOSE to recieve cancer causing hormone therapy. The transition is not a cure, merely, it is a prolonging of the inevitable. The suicide rate of those who are post-op is almost identical to those who are pre-op, so we've ruled the transition out as a cure. Psychological counseling should be the first step taken, as the disorder is mental, not physical. It's no different than having synesthesia or conversion disorder or being a hypochondriac.

Faggot

>empirical
>has posted no sources

BECAUSE SWITCHING GENDERS IS GENDER APPROPRIATION

those aren't gender changers tho
they're size adapters

They are autistic and the privilege they think they will get is being able to fuck str8 guys who are most guys rather than being limited to gay guys. MTFS goal is to fuck str8 guys.