Atheism

>Atheism
>Morals

Choose one

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I chose to choose both and there ain't shit you can do about it.

I choose neither

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>implying morals have anything to do with religion
You can be moral without religion

why can't christians define christianity?

Morals isn't induced by religion.

I am moral. I don't need incentive nor a threat of eternal flames to be a decent human being.

yet the people who do not follow religion tend to favour communist ideals

Can you define moral?
Following the bible

Christianity is the practice of following the teachings of Jesus Christ.
That wasn't hard

Actually, following the path Jesus left. Only jews and other sects "follow" the bible word for word.

You can still be an atheist and agree that the 10 commandments are something you should follow.

I chose atheism. Who needs morals?

>Only jews and other sects "follow" the bible word for word.
Jews don't follow the new testament

Why would Atheism preclude lack of morality?

Because communist thinkers bundled atheism along with their bullshit, so most communists are atheists.

This does not necessarily mean atheists will be communists.

>You shall have no other gods before Me.
>You shall not make idols.
>You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.

>Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.


Why the fuck should someone who isn't religious have any reason to follow these "morals"? 4/10 of the commandments aren't even morals, just rules YHWH decided.

The only good morals are the other 6, but I don't need some rock scribbling to tell me not to murder and steal.

Atheism does not imply there are no morals.

However, I would argue that morality is just as much of a spook as God.

What is ethics?

If you require the threat of heaven or hell to be moral, you act out of fear and not a deeper moral obligation, you are therefore not a morally sound person to begin with.

This is the definition of existential bad faith, you deny yourself the choice via acceptance of fear mongering. You should be a good person for the sake of yourself and a pursuit of an identity that's by nature a good person. You are the main character of your story, you choose the role you play.

>Morals
>Real

Choose one

>This does not necessarily mean atheists will be communists.
yeah, *only* 3/4ths of them

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>Socialist presidential-hopefuls are the most divisive—and the least popular—candidates, displacing atheists for this dubious honor, with only 74% of the non-religious, 46% of Catholics, and 28% of Protestants willing to vote for a socialist candidate.

Nationalism and religion go hand in hand. Lack of belief in a higher purpose and lack of tribal unity swaps control of a people by inherent, willing work for the good of your people with forced, tyrannical control by a communist state.

>being religious
>2016

literally cucking yourself out of your own life by a book filled with an ancient towelhead's ramblings

I choose neither

>I need the threat of punishment from an omnipotent being to have morals

>i believe objectivity is real

>I make up my own morality so therefore I am moral

>implying that isn't what religion is

cmon now

Many people that are atheists are good people. However, atheism does not have an argument against the hedonism and materialism that is consuming our society.

Religion is a fucking joke.

Only a fucking retard would believe some shit a dumb nigger wrote down in a book 2,000 years ago. A book that disagrees with all observed geological and biological realities.

>and religion does

lmao

>Implying that isn't what you're doing right now
New atheist pls

>STUPID CHRISTFAGS. MORALITY IS COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE.
>HOWEVER, YOU SHOULD FOLLOW MY PERSONAL VIEWS ON MORALITY

I'm not even religious, but atheists really are this fucking retarded.

>HOWEVER, YOU SHOULD FOLLOW MY PERSONAL VIEWS ON MORALITY
Nobody says that.

Once again, why would Atheism preclude lack of morality?

Where is the argument for this?

Literally what? That's what Christians dude, maybe you should check yourself. You want everyone to behave according to your morals. Cancer.

>Luke 8:14 - "The seed which fell among the thorns, these are the ones who have heard, and as they go on their way they are choked with worries and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to maturity."

>You shall have no other gods before Me.
>You shall not make idols.
>You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.

Aethiests dont break any of these rules though unless they fedora debate people who believe in god

morals

EZ BB

Morally good actions are simply those that benefit society and the individuals within society. You don't need a book to be a good person.

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And fedoras are repulsed to any kind of religion, like any other religion does when they conflicts with another.
Theres no way of running from this, is undeniable that atheism is something close to a cult these days

They do it all the time by pretending that the logic behind their personal sense of morality is self-evident.

>THERE IS NO OBJECTIVE REALITY AND THERE IS NO GOD EITHER. JUST BE GOOD WITHOUT REALITY OR GOD.

Uhh... okay.... can you please explain why I shouldn't rape, murder, or steal if I feel that is best for me?


>AH DUHHHHH YOU JUST DONT DO THAT SORT OF THING. ITS JUST BECAUSE. THIS IS 2016 DO I REALLY NEED TO EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU???

Self control out of self interest

People can moderate their own behavior if they are properly educated. They don't need moral codes to do it.

So then it's morally good to execute the homeless?

You should if you want to senpai.

That's not good for the individual, so no. Reread my post.

Why should anybody practice self control and how is it in their interest?

I will dream of this tonight.

Why is Murder wrong?

>That's not good for the individual
yes it is

Not the homeless guy. I agree with you they are a burden on society and it would be better without them, but it is still morally wrong to murder them.

national socialism is the answer

Because being fat, heroin addicted and suffering from AIDS is not exactly in my interest.

>religious people
>morals
Choose one.

If you are not a Christian then I don't see and reason to follow christian morality

If there's no god and no punishment for being "immoral" (however you can define that without an objective moral authority) then why be moral?

And yet isn't the very turmoil of this world a result of human interests conflicting with one another? While I would like to believe my fellow man is capable of self-control, I certainly agree that a form of education is necessary.

But then that brings the question of what exactly an "education" is. A moral code imbued by society as a whole? Where did these codes come from?

Seems kinda easy to me.

Matthew 22:36-40New International Version (NIV)

36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

If that's what you want out of life then why shouldn't you do it? You've just replaced your dogmatic religious cult with a new one.

it's not always wrong
and if those camps weren't where they were, Poland would be a cucked leftist country today

>posts a tail buttplug

Because people like kindness
Why do like people like kindness?
Because doing the minimal and getting good results is appealing.
Therefore being kind is less effort and we get help from others for our personal goals
Deep down we're using everyone else for our own personal needs.
Really fucks you up if you think about it too hard.

are you the town rapist

Both
>you are a simplistic fucktard.

Why do you do it, though?

I'm not religious, but find it harder and harder not to become amoral and just say 'fuck everyone else'.

>but it is still morally wrong to murder them.

And if the only source of morality is subjective, then I can simply disagree with you.

If you cant explain why something is immoral, then it is moral

gay

You are so blind it's hilarious. I love you, please never change.
>He actually believes this, adorable.

I choose the righteous path of Christ

>Because people like kindness
>Why do like people like kindness?

That would imply that the universal source of morality is simply based on things you like.

Which begs the question: Who gives a fuck what you like?

what a great argument lad
(You)

>Correct answer.

>But then that brings the question of what exactly an "education" is.
A proper education gives people judgement and decision making skills. No need to impose moral codes.

> isn't the very turmoil of this world a result of human interests conflicting with one another?
Much of it is. However, cooperation in a society also stems from self interest. This is why we have laws and courts that protect our interests.

>what a great argument lad
4 u

Foolish Christians, accept that your religion is just a watered down Platonism and join your fellow patricians in seeking out the wisdom to contemplate the One & Beautiful.

What you fags fail to understand is that atheism is the ultimate red pill for maximum rationality if it was self derived. However, sheeple en masses and will fall for either religion or atheist memes. And since the atheism meme has no moral backbone without critcal thought, trial and error, it is the prime breeding ground for dengeracy. The religion meme is simply more stable for healthy society but objectively fail as a philosiphy for scientific progress(still can be christian scientist though).

>Christianity
>Kike on a stick semitic cult
Choose both

No problem bloke

#NotAllUnicorns

The book none of you can agree on as far as what it says? I dont think you thought this question out.

You, sir, are fucking retarded. Please re-read the commandments and the definition of atheism, and then jump off a bridge.

The bible advocates slavery, do you think that is moral?

she's jewish
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>The bible advocates slavery, do you think that is moral?

Are you an atheist that thinks slavery is immoral?

Can you objectively prove that?

>Morality
>Real

>Slavery
>Real

You're so fucking blue pilled
youtube.com/watch?v=pBMTccP1hY4

So you're saying there are no theists without moral?

what is the video of this chick saying "what is your name" and it says Europa and it turns into a scene of a german and a brit or something fighting side by side?

>You're so fucking blue pilled
Youre so fucking gay

>Religion
>Moral
How come prision populations are more religious than the national average in every country that provides such statistics?

By this logic niggers are more moral than whites.

This is an obvious slide thread.
>There are happenings faggots.

.....what are you attempting to say here? Give me an argument or gtfo

There's no doubt that all human actions are the result of self-interest, theist and atheist alike.

What do you mean by judgement and decision making skills? Judgement not to inflict pain on another person when the risk of it conflicting with your self-interest is too great? What happens when there is no inherent risk to one's self interest in hurting or "cheating" another person?

Nice statistics

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I chose atheism, and I agree with your dichotomy. There are no universal morals, because there is not a universal creator. Each person picks their own values.

All you're saying is be nice because it sometimes gets you ahead, that's not an argument to be moral.

Yes christians are retarded but conservatism and morality doesnt really makes sense. You are fine gassing innocent civilians but you lose your shit when a homo gets married....

That's fine and dandy, but how do you generate reasonable disagreements?

If everyone simply picks and chooses, you admit that all values are equally arbitrary. You actually support the crazy towel-heads killing people as being as justified as a person donating to charity.

>What happens when there is no inherent risk to one's self interest in hurting or "cheating" another person?
We protect ourselves by creating such risks in the form of laws and law enforcement.

Also, I doubt many people simply want to hurt others just to hurt others. There is more to self interest than material gain. I don't want to live in a society of pricks and assholes. I like being kind and I like when people are kind. I do not insist that there is some inherent "goodness" about it.