Logan is arthouse Oscar Bait Kino without the capeshit

Logan without the mutant powers and comics book elements would be an arthouse Oscar Bait film.

The story is centered around three members of an oppressed minority. The eponymous character is an aging sickly soldier now addicted to drugs, dealing with depression and PTSD and struggling to confront his past, grief, and impending mortality. He assumes the burden as caretaker to his former mentor: a paraplegic nonagenarian slipping away from Epilepsy and Alzheimer's, and an abused runaway undocumented girl. Together they learn the meaning of love, life, and family as they travel on a perilous journey to illegally cross a border to escape violence.

What a bait and switch

Without the mutant powers and comic book elements there is no movie, it would just be two old guys caring for a sick old guy and nothing happens.

This movie was more libcuck agenda shit. The white man has to make way and die for the mexican female and allow violent dangerous refugees into his land because muh oppression.

Another Gran Torino. Expected as much from Hollywood.

Yes a superpowered clones and little girls doing flying kickflips taking down cyborgs.

>libshit
C'mon man. The movie even has the Mexicans leaving America to go to Canada. Actually now that you mention it, Mexicans being pushed to Canada by evil white Americans can be libshit.
Fuck you man, I liked the movie.

Logan is an x-man soft reboot. They killed off the old and introduced a bunch of young niglets and non-white mutants to take on the racist fascist white anti mutant army.

Only one niglet you fag

>all this bitching about a non existent agenda
I am so sick of you cunts, go back to your fucking containment board

This film had the dumbest villains ever. How the fuck do you fail to Indoctrinate kids? It's fucking easy. Restrict knowledge of the outside world, get them in a line and just kill 10% of them right then and there and make them know that their lives are worthless. That they live to fight for something better.

also why did going to Canada make them safe? This is a corporation with hired mercenaries for fuck sake. They where working in Mexico due to loopholes in the law so if the ids where in danger in America, What chance do they have in Canada? It was never mentioned that the cooperation was working for any government at any time.

Also, why did the mercs leave a blood trail? How fucking dumb are they? Why did they kill that guy at the gas station? Last thing they need is the fucking cops on their tails

Also, why did Logan cave in and have dinner with that family? He knew that he was putting Xavier', Laura's and the families life in danger doing that.

Also, too many F bombs that the impact was eventually lost.

Also, in the final battle Logan pulls a pistol out of his asshole. It's never established that he had a pistol and it just sort of magically appears in his hand.

Actually another thing, why did Logan leave the merc leader alive at the begging? He knew that he killed the Mexican lady so why keep him alive. And why send that grey fucker too do it? He's vulnerable to attack.

Also, if the mercs cloned a version of Logan, surely they knew that it takes adimantion too kill him. Why didn't they just shoot him with one of those bullets at the begging?

Fuck, I could go on about this shit all day, but I got other shit too do

I thought I remember Logan picking up a pistol from one of the dead guys after he and Laura fuck up all those guys.

As for the Adamantium, I thought it was more odd that in origins he hate like four of those to the dome and just came out a bit forgetful, whereas his clone had his shit blown out.

I think it was hinted that they didn't use the same bonding for the clone and x-23 but still.

As for the kids, I think the Mexican nurses fucked it up by nurturing them and shit.
Other then that I agree.

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Oscar bait does not equal art house

neither equal good

But why did he pick up Pistol. He mentions that he hates guns.

If it was because he was feeling weak, then why didn't he pick up a rifle? Also, what professional mercs use pistols and not handguns?

Also I just remembered another thing. So Logan and Xavier are at the gas station and they are looking after Laura. Yet they are 100 feet away from her in the car while she is outside looking at the video on the phone. They should be right next too her at every moment. If you don't want her to hear it, put some headphones in and take turns watching the video.

Also, if the nurse was able to nurture them, why where the kids not under 24/7 surveillance? Did they even have CCTV in their rooms?

Also, why didn't they have like collars around their necks that would paralyze them if they tried to escape?

This has more plot holes than TDKR

The poster for Logan even appears ripped from Schindler's List.

Gee I wonder who can be behind that?

Actual arthouse rarely ever win Oscars, they usually aren't even american.

jesus dude you are stupid and you type like a retard

>also why did going to Canada make them safe?
>north dakota is in canada now
well thanks for the free land i guess???

When did he say that he hates guns? Are you confusing him with Batman? Logan had the gun and adamantium bullet at the beginning of the movie.

Why did the mercs use pistols and not handguns? Do you mean why didn't they use other guns? They had and used shotguns, SMGS, rifles, machine guns and grenade launchers. The real question is why didn't they send more mutants after them? Was X-24 all they had left? If not why not use more powerful weapons such as laser, plasma, and energy weapons which previous films established already exist or things such as wire/cable nets or tasers?

Also those reavers did nothing special with their bionics. We didn't see some crazy Ghost in the Shell or Deus Ex stuff with super strength, gun arms, gazelle legs, tentacle arms, impossible motions for bills logical limbs. They just acted like normal humans with normal strength.

What. They clearly mention that they are in North Dakota and they need to cross the border in order too be safe. Unless if South Dakota Minnesota is safe from them.

Give me reasons you fucking fanboy

He does mention that he dislikes guns and at no point do we see him with the pistol until it magics in his hand. We don't even see him take it out of his pocket.

Also another thing, why did none of the mercs flee after half of them where being destroyed? They're mercs, they work for money. Why did none of them value their lives?

Also, when Xavier is mind fucking everyone at the Casino, how the fuck was Logan able to stab people in their brains? He was struggling too stand, how the fuck could he stab someone in their skull like that? He should be slitting their throats, not head stabbing

So im a little confused how did the extra adamantium heal him? i

The plot demanded it

mangold trying to normalize pedophilia with this movie

very jewish movie

Wolverine's healing factor and or past experiences with Xavier probably helped him develop ways to overcome the seizures.

Slitting someone's throat takes more finesse and motor coordination which is hard to do when your body is seizing up and spasming from a psychic. Aiming at the most obvious spot and pushing is easier!.

Caliban confronted him about the pistol and admantium et early in the movie. He later fights several people who could have a similar gun, and even has a whole speech with Laura that he was saving that gun and bullet to commit suicide with. The gun and bullet were shown several times. Did you miss it?

>Give me reasons you fucking fanboy
the movie was mediocre at best, but you type like a fucking autist

I can get behind that. But then just stab the neck or heart. The skull is one thick bone and when you can hardly even stand, its gonna be difficult to stab bone

But i can let this one slide, it the dumbass villains that make me made

Dude you are nitpicking hard.

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>So im a little confused how did the extra adamantium heal him?

That was not adamantium. It was a drug developed from hormones produced by Laura. which she inherited from Logan's genes.

The admantium was in fact killing him as his body was treating it as poisonous and trying to get it out.

all the same person, you should legit get checked, fucking schizo

okay, must of missed that. Doesn't excuse how dumb the villains where though and all the other shit.

Also it just cuts too him with the gun in his hand. Not even a shot of him going to get it from his pocket. Like one moment his just got his claws and the next he has a gun in his hand. Terrible editing.

It's 6am, I haven't slept and I'm semi drunk, passing the time by bitching about mediocre film that normies are raving about.

How do you know?

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number of posters still hasn't gone up after and all posts are typed the same way

>Also, if the mercs cloned a version of Logan, surely they knew that it takes adimantion too kill him. Why didn't they just shoot him with one of those bullets at the begging?

only one of ur questions that made sense but adementium is suppose to be one of the rarest metals in the world so thats answers it

How many people have posted in this thread?

If you can afford to create an evil secret lair where you're producing killer kids, then you have the money and resources for a rare metal. Should be some on like a black market somewhere

i aint the annoying shizo in the thread, but one thing that doesnt make sense is that logan is literally plated with adementium , so how does adementium bullet poison him?

thats a big jump to conclusions, yeah money buys a lot of shit , but if you cant find a rare metal then u cant find it , even with billions of dollar. also Im sure they they dont have enough for every merc to have magazine of that shit

what the fuck no it wouldn't you infuriating retard.

3/10 bait, made me reply

Nice trips

What I mean is that when the merc leader first confronts Logan in Logan's car, he should have just popped the bullet in his head right there and then as he's the only real threat his organisation has

But as for not being able to find any, I guess that is a possibility; but I'd still expect them to have thought in advance and been trying to find some since they started the program. After 11 years when the kids escape,they should have at least enough for half a bullet.

The whatever it was they put in corn syrup (and as a result, quite a lot of food) not only stops new mutant births, it affects living ones too-charles, a telepath, has his mind affected, and logan has his healing and regeneration effected

The entirety of his adamantium skeleton slowly poisons him to death as a result, since his body isn't immune to it via super powered healing anymore

well in fact they take them out of the country, as you'd know if you'd paid attention, but ok

Are you trolling? Were you awake or paying attention? First the gun comment and now this.
The adamantium bullet did not poison him, he was not shot with one in the movie.

His admantium skeleton coating was killing him. Just like real life implant rejection, but due to his powers it just works slower.

Yeah I wondered about the adamantium bullet thing myself. I mean they already had enough for X-23 and X-24, did they run out?

Maybe they wanted the two alive, so that's why they were not used?

The gun was shown several times. My friend even whispered to me "That's a Chekov's Gun and Chekov's bullet right there. It's gonna be used to kill the clone, I am calling it." It would not have been more obvious if it didn't shoot you right in the eye.

Speaking of which, I totally thought someoe should have been stabbed in the head with two claws protruding out the eye sockets. Would've made one edgy gif.

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The reverse happened. She poked the dude climbing on the back of the car right in the eyes and you saw the holes in the back windshield where the claws had been.

because logan isnt some mindless idiot who just kills people for no reason? Logan didnt know shit about the girl or the mother at that point he wanted nothing to do with that shit.

Also logan had plans to stay low under the radar with prof X so killing one more person after the group of thugs would of brought more attention to him and prof x.

>Maybe they wanted the two alive, so that's why they were not used?

i assumed this. we know that the adult male clone didn't heal as fast as lara and wolverine in his prime.

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>The gun was shown several times. My friend even whispered to me "That's a Chekov's Gun and Chekov's bullet right there. It's gonna be used to kill the clone, I am calling it." It would not have been more obvious if it didn't shoot you right in the eye.

i thought the gun should have been used by laura to euthanize wolvie walking dead style.

>Speaking of which, I totally thought someoe should have been stabbed in the head with two claws protruding out the eye sockets. Would've made one edgy gif.

thats how lara shouldve killed the male clone. stabbing hun through the eyes with her two claws to bypass his adamantium skull .

No I meant that The Merc leader should have just killed Logan with an Ad bullet in order to get rid of up his organisation's only real threat.

He should have enough Ad for at least one bullet after 11 years of work, presuming that the kids are about 10ish

People are also forgetting that for the entire movie they had trouble tracking anybody. They had to kidnap Stephen Merchant precisely to keep up with Logan/Laura/Xavier.

They are a corporation, but they weren't all powerful. Killing Logan likely would have meant they'd have lost the last shot at the girl before she escaped.

That's the thing that bugs me. They're a cooperation, yet they leave such a huge blood trail. I mean, they kill the gas station clerk during daylight with possible witnesses in a store with CCTV camera for no reason.

They got violent for no reason. They should have just asked him about the them and left, not make such an unnecessary scene.

Every justification for an action just opens a new plot hole with this film

I can't wait for Alex Jones to respond to the poisoning soft drinks, junk food, and water subplot. As well as the transhumanist experiments.

No. The bad guys needed Logan. They had completely lost track of the nurse and girl and their only lead was the fact that a group of cholos were slashed and mauled in a garage. Since they lost track of the nurse and girl in that general area, they assumed that they had tried to contact him and other mutants for help.

That's how they tracked them down, by placing a tracker inside the limo.

It also appeared as if their male clone X-24 did not heal as well as Laura and Wolverine in his prime, so they probably wanted him as well.

After Stephen Merchant died, the two of them would have easily gotten away with no trace if the nurse did not stupidly write down the coordinates even though she knew they were being hunted.

You've clearly never tabbed anyone before.

Although the rumen could be made that they're adamantium and retain their super sharpness so it would be easy for him.

Did you expect a functioning brain or the ability to listen from a redpill retard from /pol?

I'll except that they needed Logan and I can let slide that the cooperation didn't at least put a tracking device inside Laura - like in her wrist like in Casino Royal for example.

I knew that they where tracking Logan to find the girl, but they had a clone of Logan, why not just use him?

Yea he's a dumbass who can't speak but all he needs too do is walk around until the Nurse tries to gets his attention. Then he can follow the nurse to the apartment and cablamo, you've got the girl

Okay, maybe the clone was just a trained killing machine and that would not work Okay then

Then why not just track Logan all the time, as soon as he is seen with the Nurse and girl, follow them the their room and gas the room. Laura should be able to survive carbon monoxide and would just pass out. Then you could chain her up in peace

>I can't wait for Alex Jones to respond to the poisoning soft drinks, junk food, and water subplot. As well as the transhumanist experiments.

That and the angle that Sup Forumslack was projecting.

THEY'RE PUTTING CHEMICALS IN THE WATER AND TURNING THE WOLVERINES INTO GIRLS!

>You've clearly never tabbed anyone before.

I have never noticed Tab on store shelves here on the West Coast. Is it a regional thing?

Why didn't they just go to Guatemala?
What was the point of going through the nation that is actively trying to kill you?

Maybe they did place a tracking device in the kids. The nurse probably knew the placement.

We already saw her cutting herself. It's not too far fetched to have her remove it herself. The filmmakers missed an opportunity to make that icky scene where she has to perform self surgery.

They made wolverine train his own low skilled foreign replacement before he got shitcanned. X-Sourced.

Surely you aren't talking about based Dafne.

Logan was fucking awful, I'd expect at least this board to recognize that

Yea I agree. They could have had at least a scare on the girl's wrist though

>Also, why did Logan cave in and have dinner with that family? He knew that he was putting Xavier', Laura's and the families life in danger doing that.
because prof. X asked him to
they literally talked about this when logan put xavier into bed

Why would someone with healing factor have scars?
>We are taking a massive risk and could die by doing this
>>The girl needs a rest, family is important
>WTF are you talking about this is life or death
>>Wah you are just a big meanie
>You dumb senile fuck this eden place doesn't even exist
>>It does to her, it does to her
>?????? O.K.

Oh God, these people talpking about plot holes think they're so smart like a winner at the special olympics.

Their healing powers prevent scars!

This is shown in all the movies and is made a big deal in the beginning of Logan when Wolverine was shown to scar instead of heal completely perfectly.

>Gran Torino
>Libshit

I don't feel sorry for anyone who actually fell for this shitty bait

xavier in this movie is literally waiting for his death in his sleep
can't blame him tho

Yeah but logan should have just told him to be quiet and left. Half the conflict in this film could have been avoided by just not stopping for those horses

Oh yea my bad.

still doesn't change the fact that it caused over 10 innocent people to die because X wanted a good night

Did he mind control Logan into complying?

It's unclear how his psychic abilities are affected by his deterioriating mind. We never saw him control animals in the other movies.

He didn't seem to know when the bad guys were after them.

>hard to stab bone
>what are adamantium coated claws
>"when molded to a sharp edge, it can penetrate most lesser materials with minimal force"

The adamantium reinforcing his claws allows him to cut through steel like butter, you think bone would present any kind of problem?

I don't get why everyone is obsessing over whether this is oscar worthy or some arthouse picture. I was just happy to have a quality hard R action movie full of blood, violence and foul language and solid characters. Oh and Action that is impressive but not so over the top and filled with CGI that I can't tell what's going on. Feels refreshing.

So what is Capekino?

I suggest

The Dark Knight
Watchmen
Spider-Man 2
Mask of the Phantasm

OP literally type what the movie is about without the Sup Forums crap.

Learn to read.

THIS

>there's water................................... there's water...........................and.....................
What did he mean by this?

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Actually what did he mean?
Also changing the cross into an X, what the hell was the point of that? The Xmen have replaced religion?

>Unbreakable 2.
>Bruce Willis turns out to have been one of the Aliens from Signs.
>That's where he got his powers and weaknesses.
>Starts off the M. Night Shymalan Cinematic Universe
>Screenshot this.

It's to honor his role as an X-Man.

With a holy cross?
It's not even an X, only the audience see's it that way thanks to the angle of the camera.
Thats such a messy way to try communicate that idea

Are you actually autistic? Like unable to understand normal social cues and symbols and stuff. It was really obvious it was in order to honor him as an Xmen..

>Watchmen

The comic is a work of art. The rape of the comic is fucking shit.

The real capekino list goes as follows:

Superman (1978)
Batman (1989)
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm (1993)
Unbreakable (2000)
The Incredibles (2004)
Spider-Man 2 (2004)
The Dark Knight (2008)
Guardians of the Galaxy (2014)
Birdman (2014)
Big Hero 6 (2014)
Deadpool (2016)
The Lego Batman Movie (2017)
Logan (2017)

...So, you want a Wolverine movie where Logan isn't a grizzled drifter soaked in violence, regret and alcohol? They didn't bait and switch anything, they just turned the character up to 11.

>only the audience see's it that way
That's what a fucking movie is.

Also, let's see your apostrophe license.

+Hellboy & Blade 2

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What about Hellboy?

The Xmen aren't a religious institution.
People put a cross above graves to represent salvation. What was the symbolism in transforming that into an X

Its not like they put an X over his grave, they transformed another symbol into an X.
So saying "It's to honor his role as an X-Man." ignores the most important part of the scene, the transformation.

OP here. The movie was exactly what I wnated but not what I expected.

Are you retarded, the audience can interpret more than what is literally shown. You should be able to interpret character motivations

She's a child that likes comic books, you sociopath.

Laura probably hasn't even heard of Christ.

OK so why put a cross above his grave?
Why not just put an X there?

The transformation obviously serves a purpose or it wouldn't have been included

YOU should be able to, yet you can't for some reason.

what the fuck, you didn't like Gran Torino?

how dare you accuse Clint Eastwood of all people of making libcuck propaganda, with Gran FUCKING Torino of all movies? I have never seen a movie made in the last forty years that does a better job of epitomizing everything that is beautiful and admirable about American ideals, why don't you just remove yourself from the gene pool you 4 IQ subhuman

this had better be b8. yes i fucking mad

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Why was the character motivated to turn a cross sideways?
It doesn't look like an X to her it looks like a tilted cross?

He could be trolling, but I lurked and trolled Stormfront when that movie came out and many posters shared that same sentiment and interpretation. That the movie was about the old white generation making way for the young multicultural one.

I mean what do you expect from Stormfags?