Was he beta because of his dad, or was his dad a dick because he was beta

Was he beta because of his dad, or was his dad a dick because he was beta

in the book he had a dream that prophesied boromir's death. So his father always thought he was the reason for boromir's death.

>literally behind enemy lines kicking ass and taking names
>beta

He wasn't a beta

He was more of an artistic type than his brother, but still a very skilled warrior with very strong moral fibre

He showed his quality

oh wow i didn't remember that

What's funny is that his brother tried to take the ring from Frodo eventually, while Faramir let him go.

Faramir was really the "stronger" of the two, despite what his father thought.

Denethor isn't a dick he was tainted by sauron. Gandalf could have tried to help him but he wasn't useful anymore so fuck him.

Gandalf is a dick.

cool headcanon

denethor had a palantir that made him think saving gondor was hopeless


retard

His brother was the better fighter, but Faramir was the better person. You also have to realize that Gondor is right next to Mordor. They had to put up with the forces of Mordor for years while the rest of Middle-Earth mostly did fuck all.

His wanting to take the ring was more out of desperation to save Gondor than to take power like others.

>headcanon

What are you talking about? He literally was given visions by sauron that broke his spirit.

Why didn't they genocide the orcs/colonize mordor after the second war

Who would want to live there?

sjw's. worship of sauron is the religion of peace

The whole idea behind the orcs is that they destroy the lands they occupy. They corrupt the very ground they exist in.

>beta
But he's like a hundred times more alpha than you op, we need someone to compare him too. He managed to refuse the ring too, that in that world is alpha as shit.

Yeah, Gandalf was actually a dick sometimes.

He was going to take the ring, he only changed his mind after seeing Frodo all googly and Sam telling him he was fucking up if he took it. Difference between Boromir and Faramir is that Boromir actually touched it, versus Faramir only really looking at it.

Never happened in the books.

it was Mithys fault for brainwashing him with pussy ideals, fucking faggot wizards pupil, Dene was right

yea it did, it was just all in one scene tho, Faramir is tempted and rises above it al in the same scene, the film just dragged it out more, so we'd get osgiliath, which needed to be established for the next movie its the same character arc, just drawn out for a bit longer

This