Do Americans love or hate the Electoral College?

Do Americans love or hate the Electoral College?

it doesn't make any sense so i hate it, literally not even democracy

It depends on what state a person lives in. I live in a state with a small population, so I like it.

its so shit, especially since florida is always a fucking swing state
fuck that shit

legal usurpation of democracy, how great

My SAT scores weren't high enough so I had to go with my backup school.

notice how the states with the biggest influence
(CA, TX, FL, NY) are all filled with our immigrants? no coincidence

Love it.
We should repeal the 17th Amendment as well.

>Literally not even democracy
Absolutely
I hate it. What's the point of voting, when people from the western states' votes are pretty much ignored due to their states low electoral votes. I want it to be like Switzerland. Where the votes are counted up to a grand total and then figured to who won.

LOL

Hate it OP. Its an outdated system created when information traveled by horseback and it made sense then.

>I want it to be like Switzerland. Where the votes are counted up to a grand total and then figured to who won.

The word you are looking for is Majority

>states with economic prosperity attract immigrants
you don't say fucking idiot
still electoral college is jew tier

You realize these states are actually under represented in the electoral college. The real reason Democrats get a head start is because WA, MN, WI, IL, MI, PA, MA, MD, CT, and NJ are all blue.

NJ
MD
MI
MN
IL
all nigger states
rest are white liberals that don't ever deal with non-Whites

>Its an outdated system created when information traveled by horseback and it made sense then
>believing revisionist history

The states vote on the president because he isn't supposed to have that much power over the people. The states are supposed to regulate themselves. For the same reason Senators were supposed to be elected by state legislators.

>write off states as nigger states
>hurr the system is rigged against my side
literal retard

Actually, if you live in a Western state, your vote, as an individual, counts more than a person's vote in a place like TX or NY. Yes, we have fewer votes overall, but we have more electoral votes per capita.

A state with five electoral votes gets one per congress-critter. That's three for each representative, the number of which are determined by population, and two for each senator, of which each state gets two, regardless of population.

Compare that to CA which gets 53 for each representative, and only 2 for its 2 senators.

You have to keep in mind that, prior to whatever amendment it was that changed how the President was picked, the Founding Fathers set it up so that the population did not have direct access to selecting the president, and they set up the electoral college to prevent population centers from dominating rural areas. We've kept that portion of the system.

Direct democracy is a cancer.

Need I remind you that the problems we're facing now are because it's very easy to import citizens who have no skills and will breed like rats for gibmedats?

There needs to be a gating mechanism, no matter how weak, to limit those people's influence.

dems would always win and highly populated liberal cities like new york and LA would ultimately decide every election if we didnt have it.

so if you're a conservative you should love it

Ironically, you will find that white people treat minorities more kindly in red states than any other.

No SOUTHERNER ever called me a bean-loving shitskin.

You should have to pass something like a citizenship test to show that you understand how the system is supposed to work well enough to have an informed vote. Right now, you have motherfuckers voting who can't even name all three branches of the government, much less the roles those branches are supposed to play. Knowing their rights? Forget it.

I'm not talking about vote worth, I'm talking about how much swing non-Whites have in those states.

Honestly, the only people who should be allowed to vote are those that pay income or property taxes, or at least like union fees, and those that have served at least 4 years in a federal or state job.

Unproductive hobos should not be allowed to vote.

Right, and that is balanced out by needing a smaller population in places like the midwest to get the same number of electoral votes. Give me a bit, and I'll pick a combo of states that gives 55 electoral votes, and give the total population in those states so that it can be compared to California.

This. Government is best when power is dispersed as locally as possible. It's good that the people don't directly vote for the president, but the other side of that is that the president should have less influence on the people.

That was already tried. It was found that property owners who paid property taxes could be some stupid motherfuckers as well. You need to filter based on a person's ability to understand how the government is supposed to work to even begin to have a chance.

>I want candidates to campaign exclusively in cities and completely ignore the interests of rural Americans.

It's okay to let stupid people vote.

The point is that only people who are invested in improving the country should have a say.

Everyone else are leeches.

The Democratic Party has been intentionally manufacturing a voting base by importing sandniggers for the past 15 years as a counter-strategy to the strong Christian base of the Republican party.

I'm not a fan of how California is worth the most and is always on one side.

Or better, not voting on major policy decisions at the national level. If you curtail the power of the president, presidential elections are less important.

Nearly every policy that either candidates run on are issues that can managed at the state or local level.

Hilariously, THIS is why Bernie Sanders got BTFO.

Sanders REFUSED to go out to small-town America and make people aware of who he was.

Accordingly, Small-Town Americans did not vote for him.

For someone trying the NONSPECIFIC SOCIALISTIC CHANGE platform that Obama did, he sure didn't read Obama's playbook too hard, because Obama was a constant campaigner in small towns.

States used:

NM, AZ, NV, UT, MT, OR, WI, IL

Total population: 30 million

Total electoral votes: 55

vs

CA, with 55 electoral votes and 39.1 million

its fine

I like it, but I think it should by the same rules as Maine or Nebraska where the overall winner of the state gets two votes and then one for every congressional district.

can't happen until gerrymandering is fixed

Were the districts chosen a long time ago to make sure certain parties won or is there a process that changes them often?

"1. Democrats won in nine of the 10 most-gerrymandered districts. But eight out of 10 of those districts were drawn by Republicans." What the fuck...

comes up fairly often, each side tries to rig demographics in their favor, check some of the districts in chicago to see examples

Importing immigrants into gerrymandered districts has been a strategy that Democrats have been employing.

I love it. Fuck California.

yeah, it happens to both sides

this guy is talking out his ass cause it sounds good

It's how Bush beat Gore it is pretty retarded.