Motor/sp/ort general - Off-season news edition

NASCAR
>Kurt Bush to remain with SHR for the 18' season
>shitbags try to break into Richard Childress house....fail: racer.com/nascar/item/146394-childress-fires-gunshots-at-attempted-home-robbers
>Barry Dodson dies at 64, was crew chief for Rusty Wallace during his champ season
>Front Row Motorsports adds McDowell, re-signs Ragan
Bathurst 12 hour
>manufacturer list is out: bathurst12hour.com.au/news/entry-list-world-class-grid-building-bathurst/
>NO team nismo or Chiyo-san this year!
>Shitload of Audi's and Mercs and only 1 Ferrari
>SVG out of the shitty Merc and running a Mclaren again this year with Craig Lowndes
>7 time Whincup running a Merc AMG this year
>Chaz Mostert running a BMW

Rolex 24
>2 weeks until the Roar before the 24 kicks off on 5 Jan - 7 Jan
>Prototype drivers known so far: motorsports.nbcsports.com/2017/10/31/imsas-prototype-grid-for-2018-rolex-24-taking-early-form/

Supercars
>DJR Team Penske challenge to Scott McLaughlin PLP during the final race was rejected by Supercars officials

Other urls found in this thread:

bathurst12hour.com.au/news/updated-drivers-whos/
wheels24.co.za/Motorsport/magnussen-to-join-alonso-stroll-at-daytona-20171219
youtube.com/watch?v=jh4jO8r0BQk
twitter.com/NSFWRedditImage

1st for FUCK ARCA, who /ragsinabox/ here and I'll be watching WEC next year again.

...

Bathurst UPDATED: The Drivers – who’s where in GT3

bathurst12hour.com.au/news/updated-drivers-whos/

>1st for FUCK ARCA, who /ragsinabox/ here
these are conflicting interests, banana boy

So what happens when Nascar dies? I think there's a huge risk that happens considering that Monster supposedly isn't committed past this year and the TV partners are looking for Nascar to improve or start giving money back.

Look at the avenues where Nascar fans go to enjoy racing on off days- iRacing is all but dead with around 3500 active users at peak east coast hours.

Do the teams pick up the pieces and create their own series? Do teams buy the series? An investor or a conglomerate of teams/drivers like Dale Jr?

>nascar

>So what happens when Nascar dies?

I think a combination of teams/drivers/investors would create a new series. While the truck and busch / Xfin series might not survive, there's probably always going to be a series geared towards the cup level.

Regardless, TV is last century garbage, and streaming is the future. If they were fucking smart, they would create the infrastructure to stream every race, with a camera in every car, and access to radio coms. I'd pay for a seasons worth of that shit, but I'll be g'damned if I'm going to sit through some stupid fucking NBCancer commercial filled garbage with nu-males, diversity hires, and ditzy ex-sorority whores as the commentators.

I've been saying for years I'd pay $100 + a year for just an incar feed and radio channel set with all the drivers. Kinda like hotpass used to be on direct tv except for the fact that I never had direct tv.

I'll try not to let this one die

Exactly.

The problem with motherfuckers today is that they just refuse to accept the fact that you can't monopolize broadcast shit the way you could the last century. They still think they can use the same "ratings = Ad revenue" business model today the way they could before the internet, and that's just fucking stupid, and greedy.

If NASCAR were smart, they'd focus on developing a streaming infrastructure, making every track a wi-fi zone, and lowering track ticket prices to encourage families to fill the seats again. Instead, the dumb fuckers are trying to distance themselves from their white core fan base in the south and mid-west in favor of trying to appeal to fucking nu-male urbanites, bitches, and minorities? NASCAR senior management is just retarded.

People who live in urban areas do not like Nascar unless they came from or spend significant amounts of time in rural/suburban areas.

I like Nascar becuase even though im from NYC my grandparents had a vacation home 15min from Pocono raceway. (Don't ask, the Poconos were a big up and coming thing in the 80s and early 90s and it never panned out like it was supposed to).

They could have tried to splash in a major city for the first time with the proposed Staten Island track but they weren't used to getting bullied when they built tracks. In NYC if you want to build something substantial you need to use Uncle Vito's concrete and Cousin Louie's carting business... Where as in the south they were the bullies, so they pussied out.

Anyone know which 6 Indy races Shank is competing at next season?

>Magnussen to join Alonso, Stroll at Daytona: wheels24.co.za/Motorsport/magnussen-to-join-alonso-stroll-at-daytona-20171219

Good on em'.

He'll be racing with his father Jan, who drives a corvette. Nice to see more drivers branch out from their main series.

Best races of 2017......

Supercars Coates Hire Newcastle 500 race 2
>textbook case of what not to do when you have a 75 point championship lead, some of the best equipment, and start from pole
>also a textbook case of why you should NEVER give up until the checkered flag has been waved
>EVERY race fan should see this race.

Rolex 24 at Daytona
>shitty wet weather at night causing chaos on the track
>Ricky Taylor dive bombing Filipe Albuquerque for the lead and victory with 7 mins remaining
>Dirk Müller in his Ford GT making the Patrick Pilet Porsche his bitch

Liqui Moly Bathurst 12 Hour
>SvG booting a lapper Porsche and going in too hot on shitty tires into a turn on top of the mountain resulting in eating the wall

NASCAR GEICO 500 at Talladega
>Ricky Stenhouse gets his first victory after 5 full seasons of racing while driving for underdog team Roush

Macau Grand Prix
>GT carnage
>Formula 3 last lap madness

What are some yours?

St. Pete
Long Beach
Indy 500

Those are confirmed, the rest are to be determined.

>no 23 at Bathurst
What?

Huh?

There's no NISMO at Bathurst!

Nope.

Just hope it's not a catastrophic failure so they stick around

The partnership with SPM should ensure that it's fine.
It's all on Jack Harvey's shoulders to keep it clean.

I'm Brazilian and white, I'm used with conflicts.

That's an oxymoron.

You are an oxymoron.

So Indy 500 qualifying position will no longer count towards points.

Think seb almost Gordon smileying himself has something to do with this?

>Think seb almost Gordon smileying himself has something to do with this?
maybe, but someone will always try to go beyond trimed out and push the limit in qualy

now if only they'd get rid of double points in Sonoma

>now if only they'd get rid of double points in Sonoma
that and the meme dual in detoilet

Bump to save us from the porn spammer

>It's all on Jack Harvey's shoulders to keep it clean.
So it's gonna be a disaster then

>Richard Childress shoots a couple spooks

Is he /ourguy/ now?

youtube.com/watch?v=jh4jO8r0BQk

AND
HERE
WE
GO

>ASSCAR
let me know when Sup Forums cares about IndyCar again.

until then I'll be in /hoc/ if you need me

A general rule of thumb: If there are grandstands, the race is manipulated in some fashion.

NASCAR, like most auto racing sanctioning bodies big and small, rely on spectators to generate revenue.

With auto racing being inherently boring by nature, there's a very real chance that every weekend has the potential to sink either a local track, or major international series. Think of it this way: if you go to your local track, and one car out of ten finishes on the lead lap, do you contemplate going back the next week, or for the rest of the season.

No.

This results in organizers micromanaging the on-track product as much as possible in the hopes of sustaining it just one more week.

It's essentially a fight to keep the normies from realizing that auto racing is really, REALLY boring unless the stars align and you get the 2003 Carolina Dodge Dealers 400.

NASCAR "Home Tracks" (I'm talking local joints like Stafford, Orange Show, etc) pay a $2000 licensing fee per event. If you charge $5 for a ticket, you need 400 people in the stands just to break even on the NASCAR fee.

That's before we factor in the cost of operating the property like a business. You need to pay your staff. Pay for food to then sell at the concession. Maintenance and upkeep. I could go into autistic levels of detail but you probably get it.

Let's say the racing sucks the previous weekend and there's only 200-300 people in the stands.

Uh oh. Not good. Now you can't cover the NASCAR fee with ticket sales, AND there's less money being earned at the concession stands because there's less people on the property to buy food.

Now we jump to Winston Cup.

Add a couple of zeroes on to all of those figures.

The entire ecosystem dies without an audience. Race tracks aren't designed for racing, they're designed to sell over-priced hot dogs. Can't make a profit on hot dogs if there's not enough people buying them.

The people won't pay $54 per ticket and drop $38 on beer and hot dogs if the racing sucks. And with less people in the stands, sponsors who give you that extra bit of $$$ to stay afloat can now say "I want my brand to be in front of X amount of eyes per event, and right now there are only Y amount of eyes per event. I'm done."

Okay, so brush the cocaine off the table Mr. Businessman and figure out a solution. How do you keep people coming to watch race cars and eat hot dogs?

Make the racing more exciting. Duh.

>But this guy in the DuPont car is a freak of nature and his crew chief built an experimental chassis 7 years ahead of anybody else.

Your house, your rules, and oh look at this, you happen to be the only stock car series people care about. Heavily imply they're no longer welcome in your house if they continue to bore people.

>But there isn't any passing at this track because the way the cars work and the track surface and...

Throw the yellow. Bunch 'em up. Wreck half the field on the restart. Now normies will watch next week because Jimmy Gibbs Jr has beef with token minority figure driver and is out for REVENGE.

Go back to doing coke.

Auto racing is about keeping fans on the property so they buy multiple over-priced hot dogs over the course of an evening.

Every decision ever made, on track or off, boils down to this.

The last true NASCAR champion, where the series was run as an all-out competition for the best driver/team to win, was Matt Kenseth in 2003.

Why did they create the playoffs?

>hurr to compete with the NFL stupid

Exactly.

To sell more Hot Dogs in September/October/November than they did the previous year, because in the previous year, those hot dog sales didn't exist - the people who WOULD have bought them, all fucked off to go to NFL games and buy their hot dogs.

Looks like Kobayashi is rejoining Good Smile Racing for the Suzuka 10 Hours

B-but muh drama and muh excitement.

I’m telling you I like MTJ but him losing the title this year would have been devastating to the credibility of the sport. Especially if he finished second.

That’s why when you talk about rally cars for example the Ford RS200 for as awesome as it is became an afterthought because it’s notnreliable at all. Racing and racing championships are about consistency. Not memes

Literally like 3 posts above you there are people talking about indycar

>>>/reddit/

>Pruett readies for 50th year of racing

holy shit what

autism

his family back home really supports him

I was really hoping Chase would win it after not getting a single race all year lol

>awesome chase in second place

Any plans for Christmas?

Can you watch the Dakar online?

Or they could just not be retarded and try to promote the things about auto racing that aren't boring as shit instead of just muh championship storyline and meme finishes.

drink

Good luck getting normies to care about tire wear and fuel strategies.

Or at the lower level, getting normies to care about which redneck built a better car in their garage in an era where nobody under 30 can change their own oil.

And NASCAR has been dropping ratings consistently since the chase was starting. Good

Solid

>Antonio Felix da Costa and Ferdinand Habsburg will complete Jackie Chan DCR JOTA’s driver lineup for next month’s Rolex 24 at Daytona, the team confirmed on Sunday.

IT KEEPS HAPPENING

Isn't Habsburg the guy who spilled maximum spaghetti at Macau?

A lot of people spilled spaghetti at Macau you need to be more specific

>There isn't a North American V8 Supercars series

It would put Nascar out of business in 2 years tops.

NASCAR will put itself out of business in 2 years tops

...

ARCA, it is time

bump

>ARCA
>Taking over as there premier stock car association
>ever

hey guys im single merry xmas ;)

trans am but no one watches it

I'm pretty desperate at this point. I wouldn't mind shacking up with the old lady

NASCAR won't die unless stock car racing dies.

CART separating from USAC worked because USAC had nothing
IRL separating from CART worked because the IRL had the Indy 500
ACO quasi-separating from the FIA worked because they had Le Mans
Grand-Am separating from IMSA didn't really work but lasted because they had NASCAR behind them

A NASCAR replacement stock car series offers fucking nothing. The France family owns most of the things worth anything besides Bristol, TMS, and LVMS. So no matter what a shitfest NASCAR ends up being, the only logical option is to change its management because any alternative is even worse.

I'd fuck the shit out of her. She's probably dope in bed for her size and physical shape.

Not unless the new series goes back to short tracks. Fuck ISC and their 1.5 milers.

ISC only owns three 1.5m tracks and only two are cookie cutters, that's SMI.

I stand corrected, fuck nascar and their 1.5milers then.

bump

to be honest tho its both ISC and SMI that fuck the schedule

Wat team is Danica going to drive for

None, she retired

I think she'd do well in IMSA but she hasnt shown any interest towards that type of racing at all. What a shame

I mean for Indy and Daytona one offs

Ganassi was interested in give her a car for Indy, idk if that applies for Daytona also, but so far nothing confirmed

So far looks like no one is giving her a car