Which is the most SKILLED sport? For instance, there are guys that make NFL teams that never played a down before...

Which is the most SKILLED sport? For instance, there are guys that make NFL teams that never played a down before. That could never happen in the NBA. So nba > nfl. This includes all professional sports. I'm gonna go with boxing, or maybe golf. Seems like all boxing champs have been training since they were 7 or younger.

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Muay thai/Kickboxing

You’re retarded

Thats mean

Unironically divegrass and golf.

Also baseball

boxing at world championship levels takes much more skill than kickboxing.The best kickboxers aren't necessarily the most skilled - i feel like there are more donkeys that can take and give punishment in kickboxing than high level boxing. Pic related

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Well by that logic then hockey. You don't learn how to skate before you learn the alphabet kiss your pro career goodbye

Nothing against kickboxing but the talent pool is so small that an athletically gifted giant can come in and embarrass "legends." Just look at what Bob Sapp did to Hoost.

Boxing being a skill is a meme. Can confirm. Am Boxer.

My guess would be wrestling. It's literally just knowing what you are doing so well that it takes no thought.

WHERE MAH LAX BROS AT

>Boxing
McGregor
>Golf
Curry, Romo

Simply because there are people that never play an NFL down doesn't mean they are less 'skilled' than an NBA player. What kind of logic is that?

Also, you have to define a specific skill. You can't just generalize the term - are you talking about athletes that are the strongest? the fastest? the most agile? best hand-eye coordination? the smartest?

Darts

are you retarded? How is strength a skill?

>Simply because there are people that never play an NFL down
he"s not saying that, he's saying that people who never played football before can get on a team at a pro level (like that aussie rugby guy who played for the 49ers) or, more commonly, there are walk-ons at competitive NCAA teams, and that this is because football is much more reliant on pure physical attributes than skill compared to other sports

They can make a team, but they're never very successful. Look at who's leading the NFL statistically right now.

>Brady
50 years old
>Roethlisberger
literally Big Ben at this point, only his arms move
>Stafford
Decided to learn how to throw from different angles so he'd never have to run
>Brees
Old manlet
>Bell, Hunt, Howard
Ran 4.6 40s at the combine
>Brown, Hopkins
Manlets who aren't particularly athletic
>Keenan Allen
The last time he was physically capable of running was his sophomore year of college

Football. Athleticism is a small part of it and it has the largest pool of talent to choose from in the world. You have to be absolutely amazing to reach the top levels.

t. Jordan Hawkfeather

Football without a doubt. You literally have to train from 5 years old and play all the time throughout your childhood. And even then you still have to get picked up by an academy and get trained by elite coaches. No other sport compares in the dedication and talent needed.

Muay Thai =/= Kickboxing

Muay Thai is way way more technical than Kickboxing because of 3 things, scoring differences, elbows, and the clinch game

Muay Thai is alot like Boxing than Kickboxing (K1) in that its not all about Knocking your opponent out, its about winning on points in the end

but having trained in Boxing, Kickboxing, Muay Thai, and BJJ, I would say Muay Thai takes the most skill, literally if youre technical enough you can take on guys that have 20 lbs advantage on you, especially if youre fighting for points instead of straight up knocking each other out, Muay Thai favors the more technical fighter almost all the time, in Boxing you sometimes get brawls and you get guys that are not as polished technically but can murder you with a hit that it doesnt even matter, boxing also allows you to have way more different stylistic approaches to the game because you dont have to worry about alot of shit

Soccer desu, no matter how good you are, you will never be as technically gifted as some favela kid unless you have been playing since you were born

Which belt do you hold?

The VAST majority of those walk-ons did play before, though, they just didn't get scholarship offers. Also, the Aussie was a fucking disaster and got cut, so try for a better example.

>No other sport compares in the dedication and talent needed.
Hockey.

thats not true, deontay wilder started with 19 and anthony joahua with 18, boxing is actually one of the sports where you got the best chance to still make it starting late, in football or basketball there is no way youll make it if you start after youre 15

Chess

One day when mma grows and pays it's fighters properly, it will be the toughest sports.

It's a combination of boxing, wrestling and various forms of martial arts which are already some of the toughest sports.

But until they start paying stars like they do in boxing, it's not gonna attract the best talent or olympic tier guys to join.

This. At the moment the level of skill is ridiculously low in MMA compared to what it could be. That's what makes it most interesting to watch, it's constantly evolving.

Golf, 100%.

It has mystified the worlds greatest athletes since its inception, and poor people are not allowed to play; so it incorporates life skills as well.

so being born with rich parents is a life skill

by that logic F1 is the most skilful sport

plenty of shit heavyweight boxers that coast through on their punching power

in the lower divisions it becomes more about skill

Baseball. Hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to do out of all the required skills in professional sports. If I had to pick an individual position in any sport though, I'd go with hockey goalie

Like most normies, I used to think heavyweight for combat sports was the only one worth watching. Coz hur Durr I want to see another Tyson like knockout.

But after a while you realize how boring it is watching some big guys wildly swinging very hard with the winner being the first to land. You're not going to have as many guys coming up with beautiful level gameplan that completely crush the opponents strengths and weaknesses.

That's why around middle is best. Still have ko power but they need to come up with cool plans and techniques to strategically beat their opponents.

this

Tennis pros start when they are younger than 7 as well. There are few exceptions but they never make it to the top and rely heavily on athleticism.

>Hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to do out of all the required skills in professional sports
There is no basis for this claim and in any case the difficulty of hitting a baseball is made up for by the fact that expectations are lowered accordingly.

starting late only works for heavyweights because they can rely on athleticism and natural strength and power much more than people at lower weightclasses

This, if you dont start tennis when you're 4 you have no chance of making it big

WHAT THE FUCK? Brown isn't athletic? Deandre Hopkins isn't???

>so being born with rich parents is a life skill
>t. poorfag

true, also because boxing is a more traditional sport with more people doing it esp. historically

>A jack of all trades will be the best at something
No China, that's not how it works at all

>Can confirm. Am Boxer
No, you are a can just waiting for someone who is actually skilled to come in and crush you to pad their record before they begin to challenge for a title.

There is scientific backing to the claim, being able to hit a 100mph pitch is a freakish accomplishment
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IBF belt

Probably football (soccer) because of the competition there is. Maybe it is not necessarily the most skillful sport, but since so many people play it, the talent pool is way too bi

>Hockey
>Baseball
>American football

anyone who says it's one of those sports is fucking retarded

this

this guy gets it

combat sports in a competitive setting always come down to not only conditioning, but the most subtle technique / training as well as its execution

any great Muay Thai fighter is a culmination of their trainers' knowledge, their own experience, and their mental conditioning. the skill ceiling is absurdly high, but it's tough to gauge because a career in the sport can wear down the body bigtime

in a fair fight inside the ring, at best, a dude is gonna fall to the level of his training and that's it. training yields skill, not talent.

fucking nailed it

Why are Muay Thai fags such brainlet sheep?

Boxing, you need strenght, technique, reflexes, speed and creativity. It's by far the most complete and difficult sport

Of course you don't need a high IQ since mostly poor people play it, but it's the hardest one

Either boxing or mma

Boxing gets the nod because it's an old sport and well established.

MMA skill ceiling is leagues above boxing, as it requires many more dimensions. We can see various athletes do very well as it allows everyone to have his own approach, many different pathways allowing to be successful. I could call the ceiling too high, as independent fighters have too much to be disciplined in and your success depends a lot of complex things that are hard to put in words succintly. That's also the reason why it looks like it's a more based on luck, but I can assure you that, while it's growing and establishing itself, the various dimensions of it reveal itself and the athletes are leaps ahead of when it was still a nascent sport.

Solid counter-argument

agree. you need spatial awareness, pattern recognition and decisiveness which i'd say is IQ but not in the traditional sense. Also balls of steel

e-sports and nothing comes close.
reason being the talent pool is much deeper because of the sheer numbers, and you can practice 10-16 hours a day without "overtraining".

post more cool webm like this

hurling desu. Like footy, if you don't start training and playing competitively as soon as you are physically able to then chances are you won't make it professionally. The fine motor skills need to be ingrained very early.

In that show Pros vs. Joes, the joes always did the absolute worst at ice hockey.

Fencing

MMA is bunch of luck-based nonsense. That;s why most of their champions have records like 14-5. In boxing that's considered journeyman club fighter tier. All that swinging and kicking and rolling around, eventually somebody is gonna get caught with some bullshit. And many, many times it's not the more skilled man who comes out on top, just the man who threw that freak spinning back fist. I'm not saying it's not exciting, it's just that freak, lucky punches, kicks and chokes come out of nowhere through sheer happenstance. That's why vegas hates mma bets. Too much pure luck involved.

Prince Naseem used to have whole fights that looked like that, was fucking nuts, like he'd 99% worked out the sport and could do literally anything at will.

See: Deontay Wilder. This uncoordinated clown with his telegraphed punches he brings from the next county over would get starched by any of the second tier HW from the 80's/90's like witherspoon, bonecrusher smith, razor ruddock, ray mercer, bert cooper, tommy morrison, chris byrd, hasim rahman, and the list goes on. Every one of these fellows would light up wilder like the 4th of july. It is known.

Antonio Brown not athletic? That invalidates every other point you've made.

fuck off boomer #BOMBSQUAD

Sorry if it hurts, but when he steps into the ring with any heavyweight with a bare modicum of skills, he's gonna get exposed, He's the most amateurish "champion" they ever gave a belt to. Joshua will embarrass him.

Chess

>MMA is bunch of luck-based nonsense. That;s why most of their champions have records like 14-5. In boxing that's considered journeyman club fighter tier. All that swinging and kicking and rolling around, eventually somebody is gonna get caught with some bullshit. And many, many times it's not the more skilled man who comes out on top, just the man who threw that freak spinning back fist. I'm not saying it's not exciting, it's just that freak, lucky punches, kicks and chokes come out of nowhere through sheer happenstance. That's why vegas hates mma bets. Too much pure luck involved.

lol a fucking security guard basically retired the P4P king in boxing

Hockey
Baseball

>e
>sports
pick one

Theres not a single champ with 5 losses in the UFC. It has nothing to do with luck but an ever evolving sport with many different disciplines

Chocolatito got fucking embarrassed by a cabbie. You can find nonsense in every sport. Youre just a retard that doesn't understand the sport

Did you actually think your autistic uniformed diatribe was noteworthy?

You are the retard.

Let's take super athletic people and throw them in these sport

American football - this is the only one that takes more athleticism than skill.

Baseball - essentially all skill, which is why fat old guys beat out young fit college kids.

Hockey - why do I even have to defend this? I'd argue you this is the most skill intensive sport there is.

Wilder is trash, and is a product of the heavyweight division being the most shallow that it has ever been.

Ice Hockey or Boxing

Roughly 135-147 lbs is the best weight region to watch. It has the largest talent pool globally and best combination of speed, skill and power