I was a subscriber almost from day 1. Here's what happened...
You might know from his occasional "personal message from Stefan" vids youtube.com/watch?v=ejZ_R-IrmI0 asking for donations/subscriptions that Stef makes all of his income from youtube ad revenue and donations. He's otherwise a stay at home Dad.
Basically he failed at making philosophy/Libertarianism into profitable youtube content. A review of how it got to this point:
About 9 years ago, he started the channel. It was serious philosophical discussions, lectures ("Intro to" series), conferences, e-books. Great content, awful marketing. He did like 20 vids in a row with him sitting in a car. He'd do a 90 min series called "Free Will" and barely get 1000 views (now still only 3k). He still has many 40+ min videos with viewcounts in the hundreds. After 2 years finally he had his first hit ("The Truth About Voting") and shifted to current events ("True News"). Then he hit a bombshell with "The Story of Your Enslavement". He picked up a ton of subscribers from this. The channel then activated for revenue.
His philosophy content continued to flop though and was hard work. In 2012 his major book attempt "Universally Preferable Behavior" was negatively reviewed at the LVMises Institute. Actually, they utterly and completely trashed it, saying "He fails, and fails miserably. His arguments are often preposterously bad" and calling him "The Molyneux Problem"
1 year ago he posted his first Donald Trump video, and it was downhill from there. Almost every video either sensationalist crap like "Sexual Market Value" or rehashing major current events. At some point he just gave up serious content and just did what was popular. Currently it's justifying racism and shilling for Donald Trump. In the last year his estimated youtube revenue went from $25k/year to currently about $10-15k/MONTH.
Thanks for the theory, but he probably believes what he's saying.
Nolan Nguyen
Seems to be the trend for any controlled right wingers when they talk to the right jews their viewcounts explode
Owen Murphy
>Basically he failed at making philosophy/Libertarianism into profitable youtube content Obviously not seeing as how he is now the biggest philosophy channel on Jewtube, has people talking about him daily both here and on Leddit, has had people like Sargon of Akkad, Alex Jones, and Paul Joseph Watson on his show and has appeared on their shows, and also has almost half a million subscribers.
Gabriel Moore
>shilling for Donald Trump. In the last year his estimated youtube revenue went from $25k/year to currently about $10-15k/MONTH. Good for him.
The God Emperor rewards those who are loyal.
Lucas Cox
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Joshua Morris
>In the last year his estimated youtube revenue went from $25k/year to currently about $10-15k/MONTH. [source needed]
Kayden Fisher
I'm a lazy, useless NEET but something about people earning money from Youtube videos really annoys me when I think about how much time my parents have put into their jobs over their lifetimes. This is especially true for the Youtube stoners who make a killing smoking bongs all day, it really irritates me. At least two of them have literally bought fancy, rich new houses purely on their Youtube revenue.
Carter Johnson
Is any of this supposed to be news?
Anyone that is not a summerfag knows this.
Most of Sup Forums ridiculed his ass because he was a retarded an-cap.
But his new shpill of processing data in a decent format and going against the media is making him money and it's not bad content, so who cares?
Only annoying thing left with him is: "As a philosopher" being repeated constantly, when he clearly isn't.
Justin Martin
>Currently it's justifying racism and shilling for Donald Trump. Unbiased data is racist and Hillary is complete garbage, now fuck off snowflake.
Charles Peterson
Ok
Xavier Cox
That is how the entertainment industry works.
Easy money, for easy jobs. But because of that, most of them are retards with money so they spend it as they get it.
Aiden Lee
>Currently it's justifying racism and shilling for Donald Trump.
So you have no argument to repudiate his claims on the differences between races and resort to name calling instead of addressing Trump on his stances.
Hunter Morgan
>Obviously not seeing as how he is now the biggest philosophy channel on Jewtube, has people talking about him daily both here and on Leddit, has had people like Sargon of Akkad, Alex Jones, and Paul Joseph Watson on his show and has appeared on their shows, and also has almost half a million subscribers.
So...where is the philosophy/Libertarianism content? Not in any videos from him the past 6 months.
Jaxson Powell
>"He fails, and fails miserably. His arguments are often preposterously bad" and calling him "The Molyneux Problem"
That's not an argument. Stefan always rebuts any real criticism of UPB when people call in. It's solid.
Anthony Sullivan
My sister and her boyfriend recently moved in with me until they get a new apartment and they watch those videos of people smoking bongs.
William Fisher
Only philosophy that espouses libertarian ideas is philosophy?
Jack Howard
>it's solid because he rebuts his own mouthbreathing subscribers Www lad
you realize he doesn't have ads on his videos right?
Connor Barnes
Dear OP, please consider that race realism, Donald Trump and game encountering scientific basis is not "what is popular." After all, these things get no mainstream media attention excepting hysterical and cultic disapproval. In fact, it is entirely appropriate that a philosopher should focus on these things, because all three of them have in common that they are philosophy in action, a philosophical revolution, a new Enlightenment.
Liam Perez
>I was a subscriber almost from day 1 >spends 5 paragraphs trashing him
Daniel Miller
>So...where is the philosophy/Libertarianism content? Not in any videos from him the past 6 months.
Check the podcast.
Not an argument. Did this institute that OP is speaking with have a debate with Stefan, or did they just call his book a piece of shit? Who runs this institute, probably statists right? So there is a confirmation bias there and they never actually entertained Stefan's ideas about it.
Matthew Lewis
>So you have no argument to repudiate his claims on the differences between races
Jaxon Walker
Sexually deviant open boarders cucks are a dime a dozen, go watch their video's if your a left fag libertarian.
James Ross
Also you show that you have no idea what you are talking about if you think Stefan is a Libertarian. OP is tremendously ignorant and basically no FDR watcher would change their mind because of this shitty case OP built.
Xavier Ross
>the Mises institute is run by evul statists Wew You can always tell when someone's entire knowledge of """philosophy""" comes solely from following Stefan >inb4 le not an argument argument
Charles Price
The free market fixed him.
Dylan Brooks
>shilling for Donald Trump. In the last year his estimated youtube revenue went from $25k/year to currently about $10-15k/MONTH Service to the God-Emperor does not go unrewarded.
Justin Perez
What is that even?
Jason Thompson
>mises institute >statist
Please stop existing.
Also you don't understand how peer review works. Scientists don't do YouTube debates in front of their viewers to determine who's right and wrong based on likes. They write papers where they "trash" one another.
Kayden Allen
This makes u have thoughts.
Daniel Ward
>So...where is the philosophy/Libertarianism content? Not in any videos from him the past 6 months.
Literally every video is laced with it, or do you just ignore how often peaceful parenting comes up?
Gavin Bell
This. Stefbot makes no money from YT. FDR is funded by donations only.
John Hughes
Just found a podcaster that did an entire 5-part series called "The Fall of Stefan Molyneux."...First episode was in OCTOBER 2015, which is incredible considering how much further Molyneux has fallen since then.
Nah, he got redpilled. The migrant invasion woke him up.
Camden Ward
Okay I checked out their website, these are libertarians. I had not heard of this obscure institution before. So what are their arguments for why UPB is wrong? That is the point of this discussion. They can't just say that the arguments are bad, they have to explain why.
"Currently it's justifying racism and shilling for Donald Trump"
OP is faggot Bernie Cuck
Henry Davis
I really fail to see the problem here >tries philisophy >people don't bother >tries political and racial philosophie >people bite
Why would you continue doing something if it doesn't get you anywhere.
Ayden Powell
He does more philosophy on his call in show.
And when you are watching his thoughts on any given political issue you are getting the philosophical perspective basically. It's not like he just turns into a sophist when he starts talking politics. But he is definitely not talking about anarchy when he is discussing Trump and fixing America, it is more pragmatic there. Basically if you watch his stuff you have to have a brain to understand these differences.
Gabriel Jackson
DSP became ridiculously wealthy by wanking on camera and being shit at simple console games
Sebastian Barnes
The audience that views his shit now would probably mass dislike his videos if he started talking about ancap stuff because they wouldn't agree lmao.
Look at his comments, surely he notices he's got a bunch of fascists talking about taking commies for helicopter rides. I'm not even sure libertarians watch his channel anymore.
Bentley Ramirez
UPB is a joke. I am willing to forget it to the extent he doesn't base arguments on it. Seems he bases arguments on it less and less, so I won't pick a fight for no reason. He can't repudiate it though since it is a book with his name on it and will defend it if you bring it up, but so far the only people that care to argue about it are his own weird followers. Interviewees have their own points to make and view him as a channel, so won't pick fights about things they don't care about when he goes off on the occasional UPB rant, though audiences may groan.
Isaiah Nguyen
He provides a serious quantity of sources and data in nearly every video, he talks to intellectuals and scientists, influential political figures, etc. You mistake him "shilling" for changing his mind and expanding his viewpoints and audience. You're the only shill here, divide and conquer horseshit. Trump is good you faggot.
There's a lot of this stupidity here, oh no someone has capitalized on something, that must make them bad. Socialism has infected your brain.
Noah Edwards
lmao why don't you call in mouth breather. I can tell you that that is not an argument.
Alexander Martin
Here's what happened: >be libertarian >want free, live and let live society >leftycucks don't want this >tell leftycucks they can have their tumblrstani wet dream on their own land >leftycucks still not happy >leftycucks demonize libertarians as the worst people on earth despite libertarianism never having been tried >leftycucks avoid addressing socialist atrocities with muh (((not real socialism))) argument
There's only so much you can argue with leftists before you realize they are beyond saving. At that point, you either give up and become a nihilist, or go full fascist because you realize true liberty requres the complete extermination of leftism as an ideology.
>t. libertarian fascist sympathyzer
Brayden Phillips
>I had not heard of this obscure institution before. It's quite literally the biggest libertarian think-tank in the world. How can they be considered obscure is beyond me. The fact that you know not of something, does not make that something obscure.
About the arguments, you should probably read the review that OP mentioned. I personally haven't seen it, because I'm not that interested in this theory to read up on refutations. But if it was something I cared about, I'd read what others think about it too.
Jace Morgan
Stefan always had people like OP after him. It doesn't seem to be working though because the show is growing larger and larger.
Ryan Hernandez
>This. Stefbot makes no money from YT. FDR is funded by donations only. you realize he doesn't have ads on his videos right?
You should also look at the YouTube channel Philosophy Lines to get an idea of how generally poor Stefan's argumentation is
Elijah Ward
>Universally Preferable Behavior
Isn't that Just Kant's Categorical Imperative?
Thomas Perry
I don't know who's jewing who anymore
Logan Murphy
>I had not heard of this obscure institution before. So what are their arguments for why UPB is wrong? That is the point of this discussion. They can't just say that the arguments are bad, they have to explain why.
lol....so you are a Molyneux fan and don't know what Mises.org is.... That says a lot about the channel lately.
>It doesn't seem to be working though because the show is growing larger and larger.
That's irrelevant. A bad show can grow big. Millions watch John Oliver. And no one said that the critics want his show to die. Wtf?
Jayden Miller
wtf, i love stefan now
Aiden Hughes
I've watched him forever as well. Its simple and he explains this. He wants to provide logical information to his viewers. He found in the market area customers and now he covers modern issues and still shows people how to logically view current issues and still teaches philosophy within it. If you think he is a "shill" for trump, argue his videos and post them. Dont come to Sup Forums and cry.
Jayden Foster
So what? As long as his income doesn't interfere with his content I'm fine with that. If he uses his analysis of sensational news stories as a vector for spreading philosophy, that's a good thing. There is far more applicable use to philosophy when it's being exposed to new people than to the same few people over and over again. Educating the ignorant is more important than re-educating the educated.
Carson Miller
A person's philosophy evolves as they discover actual subjects to question.
You don't step into a new job and immediately know all the right things to do or how to ever approach the questions and issues.
It's more interesting to see a persona's philosophical mind grow and when they finally see things as they should be seen.
While I don't agree with him on everything he is presenting his own case to the world. He likes to use facts which helps however a basic principle of philosophy refutes the concrete identity of factual information. Nothing is exactly what it seems.
Although the more data the more probability of it being true. But it is not ALWAYS true.
Regardless of Stefan's faults. He is doing good for the world.
Aaron Ross
>% hitting targets at 16 In what? At gun range?
Luke Cox
OP's criticism is moronic and disingenuous.
Hunter Miller
Proof dick head? Anyone can see if a youtube channel is monetized.
Show some evidence that their is a discreet way to monetize a channel that youtube offers.
Charles Green
A lot of us here on Sup Forums started off as libertarians, just like Stefan. Then we gradually gravitated towards racial realism and eventually we arrived at the full-on gas the kikes mode. It's pretty much a natural progression. It happens when you realize that libertarian ideals cannot succeed in a society filled with low-IQ brown people. Then you do some digging and uncover who's really responsible for sending all of these low-IQ brown people into our countries.
Austin Cruz
There is literally nothing wrong with this.
Jeremiah Gonzalez
(DU)
Nicholas Ortiz
I really was not aware of this institution, probably because I am not a libertarian.
Do you know the name of the communist think tank here in the US?
I would love to see Stefan addressing this article. But ti's just an article and there is no rebut. You need to go watch the actual debates and stop reading one sided arguments.
Calling someone a cult leader is not a good thing.
Cooper Cruz
Stef is becoming more and more unhinged
Julian Smith
What? Finnish gene branch between Italians and Anglo-Germans and not with Mongols? My (meme) life is a lie!
Jace Parker
>arrived at the full-on gas the kikes mode Then you would realize that cannot succeed either
Joseph Morales
What!? No fucking way, I was so ready for the next coming of Genghis Khan.
Hunter Gonzalez
The world is burning down. We don't have time for esoteric topics.
Camden Anderson
Although I agree that he's probably making more money now that he talks more about Trump and racial realism, I don't think that he's doing it because he finds it marketable. I think he genuinely believes what he states and puts a fairly good amount of research into his videos. Wouldn't know much about his philosophy book though.
Daniel Richardson
(((JUDE)))
Aaron Myers
Debates.. Where SM is the moderator and he picks who to debate.. Are less reliable than the independent thoughts that someone else put on paper on their own terms. A lot of the answers in most debates are just memes or appeals to the crowd, where a paper can be more objective and detailed. It's actually on Stefan to answer, if he wants.
John Martin
Considering that leftists are the ones usually publishing reviews for books and books like Atlas Shrugged also get trashed like they're the Quran or something, I suspect his book is actually ok if not good and his arguments are just too controversial or red pilled. These things usually take time to proliferate so you can't really call it a failed attempt.
Zachary Brooks
>DSP became ridiculously wealthy by wanking on camera Seriously? Is this a recent event?
Jaxson Collins
So? If he's making money doing it what's the problem exactly? Do you expect him to just make autistic philosophy stuff forever and get nothing back, monetarily?
There's a market for this kinda stuff now, and it's at least a better direction than the constant flow towards sjw shit. Pic related.
Connor Torres
>Brits are the dumbest whites
Colton Parker
>So...where is the philosophy/Libertarianism content? Where is the libertarian content on Sup Forums? Do you not understand that Western civilisation is going through a paradigm shift? What makes you think popular philosophers wouldn't also be going through the same process?
Christian Stewart
He addressed it by pitching a huge fit in his forum backed up by droning fans. There was a bit of a back and forth which went downhill.
Ryan Nguyen
Capitalism is so great, isn't it guys. Makes everything so much better. pst. It has never made anything better
Samuel Ross
Dude, he has like 15 fucking years of talking about philosophy/Libertarianism. Its okay if he takes a break. Seriously, stop expecting people to just be a one trick pony. Stefan probably gets bored hammering the same old shit over and over and he clearly wants to make a diffirence.
Besides, Stef is slowly coming to the conclusion that his ancap fantasy will never happen. Not when we have a society full of niggers and shitskins or whites with below 110 iq.
Its a hard pill to swallow but the red pill is something everyone must take if they follow reason and logic.
His books are a little fedora tier but I find them okay.
Hes becoming so unhinged because hes staring into the abyss. You dont walk away from that if your a compassionate and intelligent man.
>Listen to podcast >This dumb nigger literally says "Much like Hitler" not five minutes into the fucking thing >mfw
Zachary Morgan
If you defend your cult leader passionately on the internet, you should at least know a bit more than his views.
Henry Russell
>gipsy >white
Dylan Morgan
I would have a problem with that behavior if he wasn't fucking correct about 95% of the shit he says.
Jose Collins
>Stef makes all of his income from youtube ad revenue and donations. He's otherwise a stay at home Dad.
Philosophers don't have / refuse to do jobs.
That's why they have always been hated by society since the Greeks in 400-300BC.
This isn't really an enlightening revelation to anyone who knows about how philosophers operate.
Julian Gray
At the beginning of education, white British are in all-white primary schools and are the top demographic bar none. Then, in high school Brits are surrounded by shitskins in their own ancestral homeland and taught that this land is no longer their land, that their ancestors were evil and oppressed the shitskins' king-like ancestors. Pure coincidence? This leads to psychological demoralisation and a lack of stake in the future.
Most famous philosophers lived in destitute poverty.
Grayson Flores
>Considering that leftists are the ones usually publishing reviews for books and books like Atlas Shrugged also get trashed like they're the Quran or something
Atlas Shrugged is a novel. Does everyone has to like your favorite novel? It's funny that you mention the Quran while being this fanatical over a book..
Elijah Bell
Why would I watch his videos and listen to his podcasts if I had already mastered his views? This is a pointless post.
Okay so he did address it. Then OP should go read that and make his own rebuttal.
Jace Robinson
>What are reporters, new anchors, political commentators, and a thousand other professions
Stefan contributes a lot more to society with what hes doing now over him being a fucking computer programmer or construction worker.
Wyatt Kelly
Once he had a kid he realized that reality trumps theory.
It's down to racial/genetic survival.
I too was a libertarian for 15 years and finally understood.
Get over yourself
Gavin Miller
youtube.com/watch?v=G7NBmFrwKvU he's far from incredibly wealthy though. he bought a house he can't afford and his viewership is constantly dwindling
Christopher Rivera
There are one guy like that for then of thousands like him who will not even go past 1000 views.
