>Vietnam’s human rights record remains dire in all areas. The Communist Party maintains a monopoly on political power and allows no challenge to its leadership. Basic rights, including freedom of speech, opinion, press, association, and religion, are restricted. Rights activists and bloggers face harassment, intimidation, physical assault, and imprisonment. Farmers continue to lose land to development projects without adequate compensation, and workers are not allowed to form independent unions. The police use torture and beatings to extract confessions. The criminal justice system lacks independence. State-run drug rehabilitation centers exploit detainees as laborers making goods for local markets and exports.
Ho Chi Minh wanted your help against the French colonialists but you ignored him.
Jace Ward
>implying they would be better off if we had just helped him
Sure lets betray an important ally just to help a communist. Lets ignore the fact that it's these same communists that are committed human rights violations in the modern day.
Brandon Morgan
that shit happens in democratic/non communist places.
Christopher Smith
Name one democratic nation that is like that, outside of the third world.
Noah Smith
The uk
Robert Hernandez
This. The list is a fucking joke. It happens everywhere but less often and people don't know about it
Isaac Allen
Ngo Dinh Diem was basically the same. He's the reason monks set themselves on fire in protest.
Jack Robinson
Why do yo specify non third world world nations. That's just so hyper specific (And easy to budge what third world is)
Ryder Morgan
If I became a living God tomorrow, capable of it all, one of my very first projects would be to eliminate the remaining "communist" states of the world: PRC, Laos, Vietnam and Cuba (DPRK as well though technically they quietly dumped the communism meme a few years ago in their official tyranny).
Lincoln Carter
no, they are pretty much Americanized
Cameron Kelly
Sup, diaspora.
Colton Brown
Vietnam is a communist shithole that bases all its policies upon what China does. Did you expect differently?
Gavin Flores
By this logic, so is China.
If you actually go to Vietnam, 70% of the people are still rice farmers who follow confucianism and taoism.
HCM city is not all of Vietnam.
Eli Bailey
Please read something about vietnamese history Its very interesting
Anthony Green
Vietnamese script isn't bad at all but they just need to make a font that shows accents better.
Samuel Turner
He tried before he became a full-on gommie. >Following World War I, a group of Vietnamese nationalists including Ho Chi Minh petitioned for recognition of the civil rights of the Vietnamese people in French Indochina to the Western powers at the Versailles peace talks, but was ignored. Citing the principle of self-determination outlined prior to the peace accords, they requested the allied powers to end French colonial rule of Vietnam and ensure the formation of an independent government. >Many authors have speculated that 1919 was a lost "Wilsonian moment" when the future Hồ Chí Minh could have adopted a pro-American and less radical position if only President Wilson had received him. If the US had at least listened to him, it could have changed his outlook to "wtf i love america they care about my people". I don't mean telling USA to declare war on France over the issue, but just bringing up the subject in a conference. >In 1945, he repeatedly petitioned American President Harry S. Truman for support for Vietnamese independence, citing the Atlantic Charter, but Truman never responded.
What is your point if you're gonna exclude developing and underdeveloped countries like Vietnam?
Are you saying that Vietnam is like a puppet of PRC? Vietnam and PRC are rivals. They have territorial disputes in the South China Sea, they've had border wars, Vietnam invaded Cambodia to remove the Chinese-allied Khmer Rouge government. They're far from friends these days.
Grayson Walker
>be american >lose vietnam war >still wont shut up about it 50 years later
Isaiah Young
Confucianism and taoism aren't religions like Christianity, they're just ideologies with some rituals. Most Vietnamese are ancestor worshippers.
Charles Kelly
that doesn't sound that much different to the west
Mason Peterson
>hrw.org >Gee what are they saying about this shithole Top keks, all that pro-opposition party propaganda not to mention all the LGBT stuff. Does a suspect dying from heart attack counts as torture and death in custody nowdays?
Julian Turner
"dying" from a "heart attack"
Hudson Hughes
>outside of the third world
>be freedom burgers >choose to enforce french colony status... for some reason >people turn to communism out of necessity >wtf
Isaac Evans
Snow gook defending jungle gooks
Nice
David Myers
>State-run drug rehabilitation centers exploit detainees as laborers making goods for local markets and exports. >workers are not allowed to form independent unions.
based desu
Jose Bennett
>enforce French colony status
Joshua Lopez
Unless you live in reality vs ideology in which you can clearly see what they actually wind up with is a HELL OF A LOT SHITIER THAN THE WEST.
Liam Miller
that's just scratching the surface. The west is still on the comfy state. When stuff go not as intended call me Catalan referendum, Brexit, Greek referendum, Iraq the the west shows her true face which is terrorism, vindication, repression, reprisals and military invasion. Muh civil liberties are irrelevant since practice shows that they can be retracted, violently at a moment's notice
Chase Stewart
Why are Americans still angry about the Vietnam War?
