Is Mormonism the ultimate red pill Sup Forums ?

Is Mormonism the ultimate red pill Sup Forums ?

Always been fascinated by the religion, finally bucked up enough courage and went to the church after the gym the other day.

Met w/ an elderly lady who said stay right here i'll grab the missionaires.
Then met with 2 young qt3.14 girls who were full of the spirit of Christ and just had such an 'alive' look to their eyes like I do when I can manage to go one week+ on NoFap

Anyway, I'm Catholic. What's the major upsides/downsides of joining the LDS Church Sup Forums?

Any former Mormons here? Thanks

Go for the qt's

the downside is you have to pretend to follow their silly religion for the rest of your life, but the rest is upside

Former Mormon here.
It's all upside, support, qt girls,

Exactly
yeah
How is the "endowment" temple ceremony?

All the girls are sluts who will eventually leave the church and become degenerates. Posters have tried this before and gotten burned, lad. Don't get lured in by transient qts.

You are the epitome of american degenracy. You were already blessed not to be born protestshit or some other mutilation of catholicism in your bullshithole of a country and look at you. activley chasing the most retarded, most backward spawn of christianity. Mormons are so fucking redicolous it shames me as a normal thinking human being that there are people who belive this bullcrap.

You are at a point where the best for you and all you love is to kill yourself right now. Do it as long you still are even remotely under christs mercy you amerifat mormcuck.

That hate in your heart Austria is no good. Try and release it as soon as possible, brother. Best of luck on your spiritual journey towards self betterment.

not Mormon. know a bunch. they have solid ideals and will take you in if you pretend to love the silly bs religion. 9/10 would fake convert to receive community and sense of purpose and qt faithful wife

>full of the spirit of Christ
Mormons aren't Christians. They aren't even a heresy, their religion is just bullshit and profanes the name of Jesus and the Lord.

upside: very conservative, encourage having assloads of kids so you'll see tons of white kids running around, decent support network, very family-oriented

downside: semi-cult, have to pay 10% of everything you make, magic underwear, no caffeine or tobacco or anything that alters your state of mind (no stimulants whatsoever) no swearing, no porn

I hear tell Mormonism is Catholicism for Americans but this obviously has nothing to do with baby Jeebus and all about pious qt3.14s. I enjoy a good sporting hunt from time to time too.

this is it. although even when they lived there with them i was low key allowed to smoke outside and drink soda and all that. not as strict as it seems just keep separate friends for fun shit

is service really three hours?

once you're a member, you are heavily looked down on for smoking or drinking anything with a stimulant of any kind in it though. Mormons are very tolerant to outsiders but not to their own

Yes

Fake religion, they send their women to try and lure you don't fall for their tricks.

Drunkards can't go to Heaven no matter what church you belong in.

Kind of yeah

>full of the spirit of Christ

ok you triggered, here is your (you)

and fuck off heretic

Former?

Very true.

Book of Mormon is all about Jesus' adventures in the Americas dealing with natives

Op here need more advice

Every ex-mormon I've talked to has said leaving was the best choice of their life.

Are you looking to join it knowing that it is a total farce, but with the intent of milking whatever handouts it can give you?

Or are you actually considering it to be true?

It's objectively false in myriad ways.

>Former Mormon here.
>It's all upside
Explain

I've read up on it, and from what I can tell, the Temple ceremonies are basically like Masonic initiation ceremonies. Lots of mystical stuff and pageantry that is weird mostly for the sake of being weird.

You dress in white robes, do the baptism, watch a movie (or a pageant if you're in Utah) about god, jesus, and satan and their interrelationship with each other according to the LDS principles, then you learn the secret gestures and handshakes that you will need to perform in order to enter heaven, then you get to sit and contemplate it all in a fancy room.

Then, you get to rinse, repeat for every dead relative that you want/need to posthumously baptize so that they too can join you in Mormon heaven. If you're really devout, you'll do the Temple ceremonies so many times that you could repeat it all backwards with your eyes closed. At that point, you usually end up getting to play god/jesus/satan in the pageants and ceremonies instead of having to watch it again and again.

It's silly AF, but it's honestly no weirder than any other religious ceremonies when you get down to it.

I've always kind of figured that if I were to join a church, I'd do the LDS thing since it seems to be the best parts of
>Protestantism (family centered, encourages an extremely active and healthy lifestyle, a really positive and outward-looking, altruistic sense of morality, beautiful, loyal, family-focused women),
>Judaism (an incredibly strong sense that you belong to an exclusive community, a gospel that encourages people to go out and be successful in their personal lives while giving them the religious network to help make it happen)
and
>Freemasonry (You belong to a de-facto worldwide network, and if your are in good standing you will be welcome in any temple on the planet, while the church and its members will go out of their way to help you in times of hardship, etc)
all thrown in a blender.

The Temples, especially the Utah ones, also look comfy AF.

>semi-cult
I'd probably call it pure cult.

They used to make you strip down in the temple ceremonies, repeatedly pantomime all the ways that the angel of death would kill you if you left (throat slashing, disembowlment, etc), then raise your hands and chant "PAY LAY ALE" over and over again while lined up in a circle.

They're basically a relic of the 19th century utopian cult communities (shakers, Oneidans, etc) or Scientology 1.0, depending on how you choose to look at them.

Don't have to pay the 10%, no caffeine is a suggestion. Mormon here

>went to the church
you're going to hell

I was gonna say, I have a friend who works in academic software, and from what I've heard from him about the work ethic and expediency of Utah-based software devs he's worked with, there's no way they're hitting those deadlines without nodoze pills at the very least.

Coffee is a no. But like soda and energy drinks are kinda frowned upon. But no hard rule

You have to dress like a baker in the temple

They don't believe in sex outside of marriage, and as a result have organized themselves entirely around allowing their children to be able to marry at a relatively early age. This means a massive emphasis on education and they receive a lot of help from the church in many forms.

It's admirable especially when compared to other Christian denominations that also don't support sex outside of marriage officially, but really don't do shit to help young people and just assume that they will either fuck any way.

They have some strange rules but the fact is that they're more like what a traditional church should be, providing guidance and practical advice for their followers and an incentive to conform to society. Most Christian churches don't do that anymore and spend all their time theorycrafting about useless bullshit while their members are adrift economically and socially.

>Don't have to pay the 10%, no caffeine
>drink soda
>no caffeine

Soda is a okay. Some are against it, but the church has to often correct people who say it's against the rules. My father and I's favorite drink is mountain dew. Most other (active) mormons also drink soda.

You do have to pay 10% if you want to go to the temple. Temple attendance it's necessary for exhaultation (Mormon's heaven is separated into 3 parts (father, son, and holy spirit) and the highest kingdom is also separated into 3 parts. You need to go to the temple to get to the best of the best)

But that stuff is honestly no different from the Mason's and their egyptian costumes, or what the jews make you wear.

Every religion is objectively false in a myriad of ways. But that's not the point.

Is the Temple stuff as fun as it looks to be?

No OP. They are the absolute most retarded.

it's like Scientology, the beta release

>Is x the ultimate redpill?

Former mormon. The religion is pure blue pill, all about blissful ignorant happiness. If that's what you want than that's great.

This.

"Baptizing" your ancestors after death so that they too can rule the cosmos with you after death (rather than boiling alive for eternity in the unceasing flames of hell like most other forms of christianity profess will happen to those that weren't fortunate enough to receive "the word") is really no weirder than dipping those gross wafers in to box wine to pretend that you're eating the body and blood of Christ in remembrance of Him.

Or cutting off your kid's foreskin because god commanded you to.

Or not eating certain kinds of meats because they are "unclean"

etc

etc

etc

Do they still secretly believe that niggers are the fallen sub-human sons of Ham?

Because that part was based AF

Im a former Mormon, they believe that God was an alien senpai. "Physical being of flesh and bone. "

They used to not allow blacks to get the priesthood. Not sure about that part but I wouldn't be surprised their history is pretty racist

Jesus you're stupid, OP. Way to willingly walk into a cult.

They're probably happy because they have a sense of belonging to their family, church, and even their university, BYU. It's a different life compared to the soulless existence of the modern American which is to say divorced parents, atheistic, propagandized to hate oneself and race, etc etc.

Mormonism is *literally* Islam but repackaged by a white American. That is it.

>Dude meets an angel
>Finds a book only he can read
>Everyone trusts him

Literally Islam

Current Mormon. It's a good deal, try going to church for at least a solid month before being baptized. You can go to church and participate in many activities with them before committing yourself to anything if that's what you are afraid of.

With that said, be wary of some former mormons. They're not all bad; but in my experience it's usually some little upstart who either left at age 12 or were forced to go by their parents until they moved out of the home. Tl;dr they don't actually know what they are talking about and are just lashing out against something they do not understand.

I would say the downside is the fact that you have to give 10% of your income to the church. In really strong LDS areas, they even request your income taxes, to ensure that you're giving the appropriate tithing. Another downside is that officials from the church will stop by your house every other Sunday after Church to discuss a single book that you've already read a million times.

Personally while I like Mormons, I don't trust them. I think if given the chance, they'd secede from the union immediately and run their own quasi-caliphate.

>Former Mormon
>all upside

What did you get kicked out for? Smoking?

OP should just get baptized anyway, if he doesn't believe in it, it's not like there's any repercussions for him. Also, you guys still baptizing the dead?

People don't wear hijabs. Women have freedom of speech. Women don't have acid thrown in their face for getting an education. Mormons aren't waging a holy war across the world.
Yes, "literally Islam".
Hate Mormons just like you do Muslims goyim, oy vey!

Can confirm. BYU is nice because I don't have to deal with "exciting college life" of alcohol. Everyone here shares my beliefs and I can find another Mormon to date with ease. It's nice weather at BYU right now.

Yes

What you are talking about is the cultural side of Islam which mostly comes from Islamic"scholars". The origin of Islam and Mormonism is 100% the same.

Both were prophesied by Christianity too. A false prophet who speaks with Satan (Angel of light) thinking he is talking to an angel.

Both are cults created by a single dude

Fuuuuck. I just want to go to BYU and attend classes and fuck mormon girls for the college experience that I never had.

I'm almost 25 though...too old you think? I look very very young.

>In really strong LDS areas, they even request your income taxes, to ensure that you're giving the appropriate tithing. Another downside is that officials from the church will stop by your house every other Sunday after Church to discuss a single book that you've already read a million times.
The first thing you said is blantantly untrue. If that's happening, then the leaders should be excommunicated.
The only thing I can think of for the second thing is home teaching, bit that's just done by lay members, and once a month, and they talk for about 10 minutes about the "first presidency message" which is just a message put out by the leaders every month

mormon girls are cluts

t. guy for fingered them in high school

I can respect you if your parents brainwashed you from birth. If you yourself decided to follow a religion based one one dude talking to an angel that only he saw, the translate a book only he can see. Seriously? How do you not see that it is a cult?

One major downside is that you go to hell for believing in a false prophet, but I guess you'll have to weigh that against QT3.14 missionaries.

i hate to say this, but a mormon wife is absolutely Greatest of All Time. I've been seeing a divorced one and holy shit. I never get any lip or drama, she show sup with the sole purpose of pleasing me and never asks anything in return.

On the family life level though, there's a lot of gnarly shit those communities keep hidden in their closets and swept under the rug and most of the religion is as blue pill as it gets.

That withstanding, youll find more wife material in a single mormon qt than you'll find in a million typical american girls

Nice, I'm thinking of converting to Mormonism because of the lifestyle they enforce.For those that don't know, BYU is becoming one of the best schools in the country because it doesn't have to deal with much of the degeneracy other schools have to deal with. No alcohol fueled degenerate parties, it's ranked the safest school in the country, the kids are happy and have a sense of purpose and belonging, and it's also more than 80% white. The second highest demographic is Latino. Blacks are less than half of one percent.

post mormon qt3.14 girls

i would like to see what i missed out on when i turned down byu

Considering all religions are bullshit and are used solely to create a bond between people and a moral standard: Go for Mormonism because it wins. 50% of Mormons are crazy, 50% don't actually believe it but 100% are happy.

Sure. If you become Mormon, tuition is offset by tithing so it's only 2.5k a semester. If not, then it's 5k but that's still pretty good.

Mormon girls shouldn't (and probably won't) agree to sex until after marriage. Attempting to have premarital sex or breaking the word of wisdom (no alcohol, tobacco, coffee, or tea) could get you kicked out of school.

Nice. So why don't you let normies into your temple? That's the only mystery I've never understood. I had to lie about being LDS to attend my buddies wedding.

Every LDS church in north Mesa (Arizona) seems to collect income tax paperwork to determine tithing. My dad's friend is a bishop and he was telling me that was one of the components of his duties with the church. I met another bishop from a Scottsdale ward who claimed to do the same thing. They do it, and they're not being excommunicated. Not like I really care, I'm not Mormon.

An user I saw a couple months ago put it best:
>Mormons are the nicest people who believe the craziest shit

If you can deal with the fact this is 100% a cult and the social stigma you'll get hit with by the outside world, becoming LDS is cash money. Like others in this thread have mentioned, huge support network, qt girls, encouraged to have lots of white children. If at any point you start to actually believe though, abort. They will suck you in and never let go.

t. Attended LDS meetings for almost a year until my best friend made me realize how retarded some of the shit was

you're not worthy of going into the temple of you drank, smoked or fornicated within a certain amount of time.

i think its a year for drinking and smoking and like 2 or 3 years for fornication

You're joining a cult dumbass.

I do see it as a cult, which is why i like it. A cult that encourages gender roles and cohesive family units? A cult that encourages hard work and study? A cult that encourages the birth of plenty white children? A cult that rejects many of the societal ills sickening the West and leading to its suicide? Whites need a cult like Mormonism.

There is a Mormon Church literally next to my house here in Brazil, but here's the thing. ALL THE MEMBERS ARE BLACK. There is not nearly as many blacks per square meter in any other place in my town. It's almost as if the Mormons are converting only blacks here and in other third world countries to show pictures in America and arrgue that they are not racists. Is not that, what is going on?

>I had to lie about being LDS to attend my buddies wedding.
They don't go off of your word, they have a system to see if you are lds and worthy. How did you lie to get in? Also your buddy would not be okay with you attending if he actually believed.

And I would have to double check, but I'm quite sure those leaders would be ex-commed. No leader in any place I or my parents lived (Utah, the south, north east and north west) have ever asked for more than a declaration.

You could do all that without being in a cult tho? Seems to me you just have a weak personality and make it up with joining a cult where you can't slip or you'll be punished in a way.

You could only be this way when punishments are involved. That's pretty sad.

Not a single Mormon here actually believes that shit with the founder right?

Right??

>following a religion which other than Scientology is the most easily debunked and proven to be written by men
>redpilled

Toothpaste, listen, and listen good. American women in the 21st century will eat you alive and shit you out and not think twice about it. Having a big family with an American women is financial suicide. Not to mention the massive support in raising families from other Mormons and overall non-degenerate lifestyle they live is another benefit.

are there actually any kind of organisations that act like the church in terms of community without the mumbojumbo?

This is all interesting and all but wtf is mormonism, though?

The myyhos being nonesensical doesnt mean that its principles are not valid. Mormons have high fertility rates,great sense of community and encourage hard work,which is something that most western societies are lacking.

We wuz Joseph Smith and shitt

I gave my friends cousin's name who couldn't make it from Salt Lake City. I was worried about that, because I thought there were picture IDs in place. But this was also back in 2002. He was a childhood friend of mine and he just handed me a little study guide of stuff they could potentially ask me. But all they did was look up "my name", asked me which ward I belonged to, how was I related to my friend, and I was in like Flynn. When his parents noticed me, they were pretty upset; but they didn't snitch on me, because the service had already started. I wouldn't say my buddy is a 100% believer. But he's really ingrained into the church. Pic related was the temple I went into. Nice place.

Well if they're not supposed to do it, they're not supposed to do it. If anything, raise word with the leaders in Salt Lake.

A cult.

Fucking this

Just watch the south park episode.

>wtf is mormonism
A religion founded by an american that believe that Adan and Eve lived in the US and the eden garden was there too,and have their own book,and something about owning an star after dying

So you'll join a cult and lie to yourself for the rest of your life because you went full r9k and think all women are like that? You could be a baptist and have exactly the same situation. Or a rural girl.

>lie to yourself
No. People just agree with mormons life style and join the "cult". It is just a different life style and mentality,from the current one,that is based mostly about community building.

Ignore the shills saying it's a cult. Like as if every other religion isn't a cult and it's something unique to Mormonism. It's a religion that stresses the very things the west needs to overdose on and fast.

(((South Park)))

And a guy who lied in your face created it. No problem with that?

The church has singles meetings and encourages marriage constantly at these meetings. If you want to get married and fast, that's how you do it.

Yeah we really need more people blindly following a person and trusting someone on their words, not deeds...

>And a guy who lied in your face created it. No problem with that?
I dont care if the mythos is true. Is just mythology. I just care about what it promotes,that is a healthier society and life style. Nationalism is also based around lies and mythos,but it usually creates a more cohesive society.

And then you marry a woman who is retarded enough to believe in Mormonism or also lies to herself and your entire relationship is built on lies.

How do you deal with the religious side being a constant part of your life if you don't believe one word of it?

Kinda wish i could be a mormon, life without a greater purpose is shit.
It's not like you can really believe in your nation or people these days.

>im willing to pay 10% of my income to some dudes in a building, even though I don't believe a word what they are saying but they got me a wife.

Thats pretty fucking sad.

Bullshit user. You have to have a temple recommend, which is a small piece of paper that looks like this. Now you said this was 2002 which was before they added the extra security, but you'd still have to falsify one of these. The "service had already started" is bullshit too because you are in a waiting area (could you even tell me what it was like?) until everyone goes into next room. Once everyone is in the next room has the doors shut and no additional people are allowed. Additionally if his parents noticed you, there is no way in hell they'd stay quiet.

How do mormons feel about the fact that theyre going to hell for their heresy
Theyre beliefs contradict both science and the holy bible
How they justify that

Mormons pretend to be Christian but they're more heretical than Muslims and perhaps even Jews. Don't believe their lies.

>How do you deal with the religious side being a constant part of your life if you don't believe one word of it?

How does 90% of this world deal with going to a job every day that they hate? They just do. I'm not saying that I agree with it, but people do it.