Could /pol please redpill me, why european leaders are trying to kill our countries?

could /pol please redpill me, why european leaders are trying to kill our countries?
what is the masterplan behind this mass-immigration of sandniggers?
what is the plan with all that political correctness that will lead into the decline of europe and that european people will be in a minority in their countries in a some decades?

seriously, here is right now so much shit going on, i can't believe it.

i appreciate sources for your statements. especially if you think the "evil jews" are behind everything, i want nothing but facts.

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- Countering demographic decline, especially in Germany
- Driving down wages by oversaturating job market, to increase competitiveness with China and the USA
- Undermine social cohesion in EU member states to increase apathy towards political progress, to further EU integration and eventual federalization

The SJW crap isn't a goal in itself, it's a means to an end. The libcucks are useful idiots. Behind it are greedy neolibs.

While I don't like conspiracy theories, give the book The Learned Elders of Zion a read. It's been right about everything so far.

Instead of overseeing a steady decline in population EU leaders have been persuaded by an inner voice that what logically follows is a decline in revenue and a relinquishing of power to more populated and less stable nations.
The only way to beat them was to manipulate the figures and then the people, to join a world government whilst white people still have a say.

>Countering demographic decline
For what purpose?
>Driving down wages by oversaturating job market
Implying they get jobs.
>Undermine social cohesion in EU member states
Yuros are cucked they wouldn't even question the EU without all the refugee bullshit.

Just because you're playing chess doesn't mean your opponent knows what they're doing.

Your going to have to lurkmoar user. Basically, the jews of Russia hate the jews of the West. They also don't like the fact that white people put up so much of a fight in WW2 Germany is supposed to have been wiped off the map.

Soros , Rothschild's, etc are responsible for everything and Hitler did nothing wrong.

The first world, white middle class is going to be an obstacle for the legal and economic establishment of a one world government in generations to come.

Because, as a nation and a people, we will clearly recognize that such transitions are not in our interest, that things were better for us before.

So this is a population replacement effort. They want Europe and America to be a jumbled up place full of a ton of different peoples, with as many as possible coming from a history of 2nd and third world conditions. Because then, when European peoples have to "share" our democratic governments with these foreigners, who don't care about us and who are happy with the current status quo, it will be much harder to resist them politically. Divide and conquer.

Through mass media, they will condition European peoples to "identify" as much with foreign cultures as they do with their own, and through the propaganda that we're all familiar with, they will be conditioned to equate racialism with hatred and bigotry. Eventually, our descendents will see no reason to continue their racial heritage, and they will volunteer to create more race mixed people with no history or culture of their own.

In the end only a very small number of elite European families will keep the bloodline pure. And they will either co-opt with the jewluminati, or be exterminated by them by force.

It's over and the jewluminati won a long time ago. They have the power to, in time, exterminate the white races if they wanted to, and there's nothing we can do to stop them. They're smarter than us. They're better than us. They're the master race, and we're not.

There are only two races of human on Earth, now: Illuminati families, and not illuminati.

If you care about the white race, become as successful as possible, and have a happy, white family. That's all most of us can do at this point. We're not Hitler. The rest of it is out of our hands. They won. They beat us. It's over.

>For what purpose?
To maintain Germany's economic position. Can't have industry without workers.

>Implying they get jobs.
They compete with other low-class for shit tier jobs. Result is that wages for shit tier jobs plummets.

>Yuros are cucked they wouldn't even question the EU without all the refugee bullshit.
Support in the EU has been dropping since 2005, especially in western Europe.

this is a load of bullshit. i'm not really into conspiracy theories, so go on and provide legit sources otherwise.

>Can't have industry without workers
They don't work in industry.

>They compete with other low-class for shit tier jobs. Result is that wages for shit tier jobs plummets.
"Let's plummet wages for garbage collectors, raise taxes and use that money to pay garbage collectors welfare to compensate for their lower wages"
t. Merkel

>Support in the EU has been dropping since 2005, especially in western Europe.
Not to today's abysmal levels.

>They don't work in industry.
Their kids will. The idea is to have them foster a new generation who will replace the massive amount of Germans who are retiring by 2030/2040. Germans don't have kids, Germany shrinks by 150k people a year, and that's even with migration.

It's a retarded idea to lower wages in this way, but neolibs think it works. Look at Britain to see what the effect was. It did fuckall to increase competitiveness and all the lower classes are miserable.

>Not to today's abysmal levels.
It dropped sharply during the EU constitution debate, and again during the financial crisis.

op here.
the only one who gaves any source was this guy:

>While I don't like conspiracy theories, give the book The Learned Elders of Zion a read. It's been right about everything so far.


the rest of you just spreaded your usual shit.

Yes, it's true. Goyim exist only to serve Jews as slaves. Goyim were only born to serve us. Without that they have no place in the world. Only to serve the people of Israel. Why are gentiles needed? They are only here to work. They will work, they will plow. They will reap. We will sit like effendi and eat. That is why goyim were created

Look at who owns the (((media))) and who's in powerful government positions.

Then see if they all push the same narrative.

Then read some conspiracies.

It's jews and the jew plan is White genocide, but any outcome they'll be happy with, Whites kill muds, muds kill Whites, both killed.

big money and genuinely naive politicians who think they're doing the right thing

Luxury breeds intellectualism, intellectualism breeds a lack of pragmatism, a lack of pragmatism leads to liberalism which leads to suicide. Powerful leaders aren't immune to this phenomena.

op here.
why can't any of you faggots deliver sources?
i see nothing but claims about evil jew conspiracy, but nothing else.
recommend good books, scientific papers, legit and well researched articles, just anything valueable. i will read everything you deliver, but for now there is really nothing.

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Why was I tagged with le jew conspirators?

What I said is common sense.

I mean don't get me wrong, Jews having no allegiance to any group but their own plays a big factor, but it's certainly not the biggest. White degradation came about as a result of an abundance of luxury, which opened up the gates for our enemies to exploit us.

When a mass import of cultures are imported into a country with traditions and cultures, the cultures mix.

The result is the country that received the imports loses its identity and culture.

The result of that is to make it seem the world is one, France would be the same culture as spain, and spain will have the same culture as finland. Their history will be forgotten, their traditions will be forgotten, their laws will be forgotten..

Now, maybe 50 years or so, it will ultimately leading to a one world system as everyone will be like, well if our countries are all the same why not have the same government?


For example, we as Americans value our constitution and traditions, bbq's and traveling.
Now if a mass importation of immigrants come in within in 2 generation the constitution will have no value, traditions will be looked at like a thing of the past, and they will vote leaders into office that make it worse.

FPBP.

They're actually doing something about it now

op here.
just stop posting now everyone, when you can't link any sources like is said above: good books from legit autors, scientific papers, legit and well researched articles, just anything valueable

/pol seems really to be just an echochamber that constantly repeats it's own shit.
some of your opinions in this thread seem to be really legit and logical, but i want to read more.

>"I want sources"
>no sources posted

Faggots stop writing fan fictions and provide a basis for your argument.

>inb4 "look it up its out there"

Not. An. Argument. Or source.

europarl.europa.eu/news/en/news-room/20160701IPR34480/MEPs-back-plans-to-pool-policing-of-EU-external-borders

>what is the masterplan behind this mass-immigration of sandniggers?
The politicians follow the orders of big businesses which are based in the West. Big businesses need big populations to sell their shit to and make big profits, so they import people to their established business turfs in the West.
That is the economic side of it.

There is also a cultural side of it led largely by Marxist or Freudian or Frankfurt School Jews and acolytes of the Jews, which you can read about in the Culture of Critique. These people are motivated by fear and hatred of European society.

Drive down wages, impoverish the people and enrich the elites. Use the rhetoric of anti racism to silence opposition and the inevitable ethnic conflicts to concentrate power.

To get a large enough voting mass that will not strongly identify with any European country - make it possible to form a European federation.

Well, it was the plan

>The result of that is to make it seem the world is one, France would be the same culture as spain, and spain will have the same culture as finland. Their history will be forgotten, their traditions will be forgotten, their laws will be forgotten..

And part of the point of this is that a people without tradition and without high standards for art and so on will be easier to sell shit to.
If Europeans cared about the architecture in their cities, would big corporations be able to build disgustingly ugly, cheap, bland pieces of crap which give them maximum profit returns in the middle of beautiful ancient cities? No.
Would the music industry be able to pump out mass-selling, easily-produced pieces of crap by talentless hacks if national cultures around the world stuck to their own local cultures and traditions and had their own music industries which took after and innovated upon those traditions whilst still maintaining the high standard of art found in their history? No.

So a cultureless people are easier to sell shitty, cheaply-produced crap to, hence giving big business bigger profit returns.

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Demand for entry level jobs skyrockets.
Wages for entry level jobs drop.
More low skill manufacturing is built.
And Arabs aren't all that used to GIBS ME DATS. They are entirely willing to work those jobs.

>credible sources covering a taboo topic in an age that will go down in history for the disinfo culturally marxist propaganda

Come to your own conclusions, OP.

>what is the masterplan behind this mass-immigration of sandniggers?
Okay and here's the non-tinfoil hat answer for people who don't like LARPing:
We have these agreements called Dublin Regulation and Geneva Convention, which were signed ages ago.
>The Dublin Regulation (Regulation No. 604/2013; sometimes the Dublin III Regulation; previously the Dublin II Regulation and Dublin Convention) is a European Union (EU) law that determines the EU Member State responsible to examine an application for asylum seekers seeking international protection under the Geneva Convention and the EU Qualification Directive, within the European Union. It is the cornerstone of the Dublin System, which consists of the Dublin Regulation and the EURODAC Regulation, which establishes a Europe-wide fingerprinting database for unauthorised entrants to the EU. The Dublin Regulation aims to “determine rapidly the Member State responsible [for an asylum claim]”[1] and provides for the transfer of an asylum seeker to that Member State. Usually, the responsible Member State will be the state through which the asylum seeker first entered the EU.

We also have Schengen, which means that we are free to travel from EU country to another. There has been discussions about changing these agreements since they clearly do not work with modern world anymore, and that there are too many people abusing the asylum system for economic migration now.

You can read what our president has to say about it:
presidentti.fi/public/default.aspx?contentid=339663&nodeid=44810&contentlan=2&culture=en-US

Artificial Intelligence will take over eventually anyway, so it doesn't even matter a bit

Not to mention, you're asking us to provide you with sources that somehow objectively gauge the personal intent of people who live there lives largely behind closed doors.

You'll receive educated guesses (perhaps often times stated in a dogmatic fashion) because that's literally the extent to which anyone barring the inner-circles can contribute to the topic.

And destroy nationalities. The refugees go to the rich countries to even out europe. Germany is to strong and needs something that will lessen its economic power forever

so you ant a theory for the practice? If there is a practice you can study, why bother with theories?
If you have theory x and theory y, theory y matches which what is practiced, theory x is refuted.

youtube.com/watch?v=IKOQOXGE3ds

simple. Jews want to control the world. White people have done a good job at controlling the world the past 500 years. Others want a piece of the pie. Best way to do that is get rid of white people.

This way the ruling jewish class can have subservient individuals without strong identity whom are easier to brainwash and program through tv and internet.

By moving the refugees from the middle east to Europe you uproot them. These refugees will not be connected to the land upon which they walk. The European man will not recognize his own country and will realize all is lost. Soon you'll have rulers and citizens in a country where neither has been historically tied to it. The only thing that will matter is materialism and physical pleasures.

Brave New World

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No if thats the end goal there is a more guaranteed way of achieving it.

Encouraging immigration will encourage racial tension and unrest. Policies will be fueled by this tension. First they will be liberal policies calling for "understanding". Then the immigrants will willingly or unwillingly become seen as a threat. At first unofficially, but then we will see people calling for action.

They will call for a European Military to safe guard Europe. They will call for more cohesion to keep terrorists at bay...

Alright - let me break down for you what we mean by GIVING SOURCES:

Define "cultural marxism" and cite a credible source.
Define its 'propaganda', and define how its "subverting the West and Western values" with credible sources.

Give me your stats backing the supposed ills of immigration/refugees.

Define in quantifiable terms how our "culture is being undermined".

Etc...

>Come to your own conclusions, OP.

i always come to my own conclusions, but only after educating myself in a scientific manner.
all that has been posted in this thread is nothing but claims that are not substantiated anyhow.

and it seems this is how /pol works: nothing but fiction and conspiracies that can't be backed up anyhow.

without proper research, any conclusion will lead into wrong conclusions, regardless how well formulated some comments are.

personally i hate this sandnigger immigration and the decline of europe, i asked you for verifiable reasons, and no one can delivers. it ends all in the evil-jew-meme bullshit. seriously, you guys are paranoid.

have you never heard of deduction?
this is analyzing the factual situation, de facto always refutes any contradicting theory.

as a mathematician, i know deduction. deliver valid axioms, and i deduct the evil jew theory. but neither you nor anyone else here is able to do this.

Why do certain nationalities seem to go to certain countries only? Because they have good social welfare for the migrants. Also some countries, such as Finland still had just a while ago, have this so called "humanitarian immigration" branch which isn't EU regulation.
>Before 16 May 2016, Finland could grant asylum seekers humanitarian protection if the requirements for asylum or subsidiary protection were not met. Since 16 May 2016, this type of international protection has no longer existed due to an amendment to the Aliens Act.
Because of this, lot of Iraqis and Somalis found their way here instead for example Germany. This is thanks to Astrid Thors, a Swedish Peoples Party minister who fucked up things around 2007-2008.

Welfare money and other regulations are something each country can change on their own.

You want red pill? Europe is trying to seem as An attractive place to live. Inviting of all races ethnicities. In my opinion trying to compete with America. They value multiculturalism. Nothing more nothing less.

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>define cultural marxism
>define propaganda
Babbys first Sup Forums or really shitty bait.

>it ends all in the evil jew meme bullshit
Thanks for ignoring my original comment, faggot.

In fact, you've ignored two substantive comments I've made on this issue.

Written in german. Provides some logical clues but is obviously doubious

>i always come to my own conclusions, but only after educating myself in a scientific manner.
>all that has been posted in this thread is nothing but claims that are not substantiated anyhow.

false. If you were scientific, why do you not use deduction? What you are doing is trying to find a theory like e.g. a written or spoken statement: we want to eradicate Europe - and then claim this doesn't happen becuase you can find the theoretical evidence.
If you were into science you would analyze the factual situation - stuff like suppressing wages could be easily found by yourself by a) looking into the fact wages are not increase, price increased ergo wages are going down. an here, extra for you:

>Für die Zukunft sollten derartige Tarifabschlüsse jedoch vermieden werden. Angesichts nahezu erreichter Vollbeschäftigung und eines sogar drohenden Arbeitskräftemangels plante die Bundesregierung, durch die Anwerbung ausländischer Arbeitskräfte dem Arbeitskräftemangel zu begegnen und dadurch gleichzeitig auf künftige Lohnforderungen dämpfend einzuwirken.

bundesarchiv.de/cocoon/barch/10/k/k1955k/kap1_1/para2_7.html

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World War 3.

>NATO met this weekend for the first time since WWII to discuss mobilization of troops towards the Baltics
>Sanctions against Putin for his behavior towards Croatia
>ISIS and BLM are wonderful distractions with convenient timing

Dallas happened the day Clinton's email scandal case got re-opened. Orlando happened right when Trump University's court case was losing. Racially motivated killings happen right after DMs from Loretta Lynch to the BLM leader was disclosed, claiming that incendiary attacks were meant to incite martial law to get Obama in office for a 3rd term. Did you notice that the audio of the CNN live broadcast skipped for 3 seconds when the anchor started saying the phrase, "elevated tactical position"?

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sorry for ignoring you, i could not respond to everyone. your "common sense" argument is invalid, because it has no scientific base.
regarding your "own conclusions", i already answered you.

regarding this one
NO, i don't ask for proofs or some shit like that. i look for a basis (in form of books, research parpers and so on) out of that i can conclude the whole jewish conspiracy theory.

but again, also you delivered noting.

Cheap labor in the service industry for rich people. More people means more demand for housing i.e. Higher rent. Etc

>For what purpose?
FOR SHEKELS DUMMY

Are you fucking serious? I thought the "go look it up" answer was the emptiest response, but now you're saying to lurk more and get the source here?

That's circular as fuck and a PRIME example of the meaning of 'echochamber'.

>as a mathematician, i know deduction. deliver valid axioms, and i deduct the evil jew theory. but neither you nor anyone else here is able to do this.

so even a short video clip of one of France's chief rabbies praising the destruction of European christianity by mass immigration still is not evidence enough?

>what is empiricism


Maybe you're just young OP, I don't know. But there is no all-encompassing/easy answer to what essentially amounts to the human condition (or at least a broad facet of it). There is no magical book, no peer reviewed study, etc. that will suddenly enlighten you as to the real reason behind why people can be shitty and do shitty things.

The white oldest leaders in charge do not want brown and black people fromm advancing.

Today prevent them from taking over, they're destroying their countries from the inside, making them more hostile and letting the dumb ones inside their white countries to cause friction and destruction.

That's it. Anything else is dumb pol talk.

>like e.g. a written or spoken statement: we want to eradicate Europe

no i don't. i'm a mathematician and i'm fine with deducation. i'm looking for a BASIS where i can start to deduce, but there is really nothing that leads anywhere near into the jewish-conspiracy theory.

And let me clarify, I'm asking you to CLARIFY the meaning of those terms with regards to YOUR ARGUMENT about the "destruction of the west".

I know what those terms mean. I'm looking for clarification from you.

>destruction of the west in quotes
This is really poor bait, user. You couldn't be less subtle.

>i'm not really into conspiracy theories
>the only one who gaves any source was this guy:
>the rest of you just spreaded your usual shit.

Here is the point - all of you have these "theories" to posit in relation to what OP asked.

But, he's asking for sources, for the information YOU learned and studied from, that allowed you to draw the CONCLUSIONS you are currently posting.

OP wants to draw his OWN conclusions for the literature, sources, etc. you studied from as well.

So far, the only answers have been to "look it up" or "lurk more" which is inherently useless because it just implies you got all your """"information"""" from this so far circular echochamber.

This, its not our job to convince you. Do your own research.

>empiricism
i'm pretty sure someone would give me the exact same answer in a leftist-liberal forum.


no im not that young, actually a pretty old fag.
and i don't expect any magical book, i think you got me wrong.
all i want is something that is substantial. i read a lot of things at /pol, but i have to say pretty much everything is just opinion based.
i don't demand any solid proof anyhow, but none of you (but one guy) was even able to at least recommend me a BOOK for me to dig deeper into that whole topic! that's fucked up weak of you people as a basis for a discussion.

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>i'm looking for a BASIS where i can start to deduce

I gave you a vid of a French chief rabbi, and a link where gov't admits to bring in foreigners to drive native wages down. That's a splendid basis I say.

Immigrants do not take part in politics. I've been to the two big demonstrations against TTIP in Berlin and Hannover and there were hundreds of thousands of people but no nignogs and no mudslimes to be seen. I've also been to the protests in Paris and when at any time you see the city full of immigrants, you can't see them there at the demonstrations. At least not the peaceful ones, sure enough they are out to festroy in the violent ones.

So as many anons itt mentioned already, it probably has to do with social cohesion and people's ability to challenge government and the private sector. After all it's us Europeans who have a history of political rebellions.

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The question is flawed anyway. How is anyone really supposed to know "why"? Speculation is the best we have for such questions. We know the how and where but how are we supposed to know the why?

reporting this to Mutter Merkel. Your ideas are very problematic.

You'll be sent to a re-education camp. Remember, "Arbeit macht frei".

Read Burnham's Suicide of the West. Once you understand the ideological origins and implications of Liberalism, then you can begin to understand, at the very least, why the west bought into the meme en-masse. You'll just have a better grasp of the world after having read that book, imo.

Just my two cents.

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thank you.

you are the second guy that recommend me a book. i will look at it.

>could /pol please redpill me, why european leaders are trying to kill our countries?

The problem are not the leaders. In fact, the leaders are fantastic.

The problem is, that women are allowed to vote and they elect these leaders.

Is this on kindle or something?

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I believe so.

OP, as to your question, I've been recommended to read the works of Spengler.

The west is being prepared to integrate into larger unions and nations. For people to accept that they must destroy nationalism and divide the people.

Isn't there a pastebin with good info to start researching somewhere? I thought I had it bookmarked but can't seem to find it.

Oswald Spengler?

I know there's a torrent link to Sup Forums's (incomplete) recommended reading list out there somewhere. When I get home I will take a look for it.

>NO, i don't ask for proofs or some shit like that. i look for a basis (in form of books, research parpers and so on) out of that i can conclude the whole jewish conspiracy theory.
nigga your OP asks "why" not how, who or where.

Yes. Granted, I havent gotten around to studying him yet, but it is a consistent recommendation I have been given, especially with regards to this topic.

Do you sip on faggacinis too?

Burnham's work even references Spengler. Start with that.

Spengler just covers the inevitability of societal collapse, and It's infinitely less relevant to contemporary political climate than is Burnham's book.

New world order

Divide and conquer

Oswald Spengler is difficult to read for a mathematician, mathematicians want formulas and those often can't provided by philosophers.
How is "trust" or "dignity" expressed in a mathematical formula? Are they variables, or constants? How do I deduce?
As an economist I am plagued with the same problem, the difference is mathematics can be studies freely, economy is restricted to the mainstream philosophy (new/neo Keynesianism).

ok thanks user. it is refreshing to see someone at pol that understands the concept of sources and how someone should build an opinion that is not only based on an echochamber.

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They want a politically correct fourth reich.

>Oswald Spengler is difficult to read for a mathematician, mathematicians want formulas and those often can't provided by philosophers.
Maybe you can try reading this paper
lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/nyborg-2011-the-decay-of-western-civilization-double-relaxed-darwinian-selection.pdf

>Oswald Spengler is difficult to read for a mathematician, mathematicians want formulas and those often can't provided by philosophers.

no, mathematicians want valid reasons. and you would be surprised how math is relatet towards philosopy, especially in logic.

Are you retarded or something? Or do you seriously suggest women's suffrage is OK.

Helmuth Nyborg is good, I will def. read it. thanks.

The long term plan is to destroy the nations of north Africa and the middle east through civil war and braindrain. Then these regions can be annexed by Europe, their resources exploited and repopulated with a white upper class.

In the future a new Roman Empire will rise again ruled by a white elite over a brown mixed race population.