Prove to me that the Niners are a more elite franchise than the Raiders

Cool, you red and gold faggots can have the Bay Area

We will get LA, Vegas, Inland Empire and the rest of the west coast.

We have more fans, have a larger swath of area of fans, have more history, more success, and a worldwide brand

>assblasted cause no jimmy
pathetic desu

WE ON THE RISE FOO

>more history, more success

C'mon now. Let's be sane here.

There was a 30 for 30 about the Raiders

For the Niners????

The true LA vs SF rivalry is Raiders vs 49ers, at least to every single non millennial

Vegas is a suburb of Los Angeles. The Rams can fuck off to Sacramento and the Chargers can go back where they're from.

Derek Carr is trash. Some quarterbacks would KILL to have a line like Derek’s. Dude sees ghosts out there

Why the FUCK would he want to win for Oakland? They stole OUR team

Gruden will turn him into the GOAT. Book it.

yeah, you're right, forget championships, the true measure of a franchise's success is how many ESPN documentaries were made about it.

His line stopped blocking for him after he wouldnt kneel. Niggers are horrible people desu.

I can't tell if you're retarded or trolling.

You made this thread so obviously you're a massive faggot.

Yeah, as time passed I think there is something to that story. The kneeling killed the raiders locker room and their season

Lakers Dodgers Raiders

raiders still bitching about the tuck rule.

Satan is absolutely correct. The Raiders are a few tiers below the Whiners.

Then explain why the Raiders have way more fans and guaranteed home games in LA and the Niners struggle to sell out Santa Clara and have no road fans?

>way more fans and guaranteed home games in LA

What the fuck are you even talking about, you blithering retard?

>explain why the Raiders have way more fans
The Raiders appeal to the lowest common denominator. California is full of dregs. You do the math. Terrible franchise followed by equally trashy fans.

Terrible franchise

Which is better than the 49ers in every way

Except, you know, winning

Did you see Raiders @ Chargers today? Raider home game

I’d like to see the Niners take over another stadium.

Everyone literally has a home game at the stub hub center?

>raider home game

I don't think Mexicans can afford to go to a home game more than once a year.

>not getting the point

We’re like the Steelers or Cowboys where we have so many fans everywhere we never truly play a road game anywhere

Yeah. We win with CLASS!

>Supporting out of State teams
Cuck

>moving to Shithole Nevada

>2018
>thinking the Niners are more successful than the Raiders

Fuck you

>assblasted shithawk fag false flagging as raidnigger to make his daily screech about the 49ers thread
kek

>It's that one LA Raidnig poster
this thread makes way more sense now

5 Owl wins > 3 Owl wins.

Easy.

For real - how is that even true? The Raiders and Niners are at worst on the same tier of franchise success

>More success
>Objectively fewer championships
>No GOAT QB/Coach combo
>No GOAT player of any position
>Most recent Owl appearance objectively further in the past

What did you mean by this OP?

Marcus Allen wasn’t GOAT?

Very simple, user.
If your team has a 12-4 season, everybody will hop on the bandwagon and go to games.
If your team has a shit season, people dont wanna show up to watch their team lose.

Ray Guy is the first Punter in the Hall Of Fame, and he's a Raider.

I would rather be 5-1 on the superbowl with jimmy G set for the future over being 3-2 with a 16 year playoff win drought and carr who just got exposed

Yeah who wouldn’t want to own the West Coast, be a huge FA destination because of the huge fanbase and be worth more

Who could possibly want that?

Wasnt the Rams Niners game yesterday 80% Niner fans?

If Raiders would've won those 2 Owls they literally got cheated out of (Tuck rule, Tampa) they would be viewed higher than the 9ers, but they didn't.

Not saying they haven't had good players, but GOAT QB/Coach and all time GOAT are wildly more impactful than HoF punter

Ok, then the Niners are equal to the Raiders. There, happy?

The Niners aren't the Cowboys, Steelers, Packers, Raiders or Patriots in real life.

You forgot
>Team has as many relocations as championships

But user
Clearly not equal. SF objectively more accomplished franchise.

5 > 3

LA > SF