Trump has repeatedly denied that global warming exists. What's your opinion Sup Forums?

Trump has repeatedly denied that global warming exists. What's your opinion Sup Forums?

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forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/02/05/in-their-own-words-climate-alarmists-debunk-their-science/#1a566c5076fb
youtube.com/watch?v=52Mx0_8YEtg
sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/03/150327091016.htm
cnn.com/2015/05/05/opinions/sutter-sea-level-climate/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_sea_level
scientificamerican.com/article/earth-will-cross-the-climate-danger-threshold-by-2036/
ss6m.climatecentral.org/
scientificamerican.com/article/antarctica-meltdown-could-double-sea-level-rise/
sciencenordic.com/cop21-what-does-two-degrees-celsius-global-warming-look
nytimes.com/2016/03/23/science/global-warming-sea-level-carbon-dioxide-emissions.html?_r=0
ipcc.ch/
climate.nasa.gov/
smallthoughts.com/climategate/
nationalreview.com/article/425232/climate-change-no-its-not-97-percent-consensus-ian-tuttle
web.archive.org/web/20080213042858/http://www.skepticalscience.com/page.php?p=3
iopscience.iop.org/1748-9326/8/2/024024/article
www2.sunysuffolk.edu/mandias/global_warming/global_warming_misinformation_volcanoes.html
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>killing your economy to appease reddit faggots and the (((greens)))

if he's the president, it doesn't matter what he thinks of climate change

climate change will be solved by the free market, as the specific challenges present themselves

ideally, a president will stay out of it

>denied

That heretic!!
Someone call the Climate Change Inquisition!!!

Global warming was created by Jews to prop up their investments in third world shit holes.

>climate change will be solved by the free market
yea nah m8 you're a fucking retard

What is the economic/political motivation behind making up global warming?

A remark from Maurice Strong, who organized the first U.N. Earth Climate Summit (1992) in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil revealed the real goal: “We may get to the point where the only way of saving the world will be for industrialized civilization to collapse.”

Former U.S. Senator Timothy Wirth (D-CO), addressing the same Rio Climate Summit audience, agreed: “We have got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic policy and environmental policy.” (Wirth now heads the U.N. Foundation which lobbies for hundreds of billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars to help underdeveloped countries fight climate change.)

Also speaking at the Rio conference, Deputy Assistant of State Richard Benedick said: “A global warming treaty [Kyoto] must be implemented even if there is no scientific evidence to back the [enhanced] greenhouse effect.”

In 1988, a former Canadian Minister of the Environment told editors and reporters of the Calgary Herald: “No matter if the science of global warming is all phony…climate change [provides] the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world.”

In 1996, former Soviet Union President Mikhail Gorbachev emphasized the importance of using climate alarmism to advance socialist Marxist objectives: “The threat of environmental crisis will be the international disaster key to unlock the New World Order.”

Speaking at the 2000 U.N. Conference on Climate Change in the Hague, former President Jacques Chirac of France said: “For the first time, humanity is instituting a genuine instrument of global governance, one that should find a place within the World Environmental Organization which France and the European Union would like to see established.”

forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/02/05/in-their-own-words-climate-alarmists-debunk-their-science/#1a566c5076fb

money laundering through faux charity funds, legitimizing "climate change refugees", vulture capitalism in 3rd world shitholes, monopolizing influence in said 3rd world shitholes, funneling wealth to 3rd world shitholes

I believe in climate change but I still support Trump on almost every other issue.

You're a fucking retard if you think this and actually read scientific journals or magazines or even fucking Internet articles and haven't gathered by now that immediate reaction to climate is still delayed reaction. By that time it will be too late. We've already got 1.5 degrees Celsius in the works. 2 total, and we are fucked.

climate change is a thing that has always been happening and there is nothing anybody can about it in fact it will probably be a good thing since it will make some areas like siberia more habitable

>(((scientific journals or magazines)))
name one

Good, fuck industrial civilization.

Real, but a nonfactor. The issue is pushed to bait idealistic college kids into voting democrat.

It's like they think the state agencies will evaporate and all remediation technology will disappear if we don't have another democrat in the White House.

repeatedly denying Trump exists doesn't make him go away either.

:(

we oughta round up all the hippies and save the world from overpopulation and put a 9mm through their skulls
fucking retarded nigger loving pinkos

You heard the man.

Holy shit, my point is the most basic shit like even pop science shit like SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN MAGAZINE which is almost brain dead ez to understand is above your head if you can't comprehend that the climate takes years to react to changes and has a delayed response.

No candidate is perfect.
I don't agree with everything he says, but he is without a doubt the best Presidential candidate we have seen in over 30 years. If not longer.

>We've already got 1.5 degrees Celsius in the works. 2 total, and we are fucked.
give specific articles you dipshit cuck

Do any of you not think that there could be an economic/political motivation behind denying that global warming exists? Oil companies benefit from as many cars as possible on the road, as well as running on fossil fuels.

A M E R I C A F I R S T.

oil is not profitable anymore

Manmade climate change is nowhere near as the bad as the climate change industry makes it out to be.

Sea levels haven't risen fuck all. The globe hasn't warmed any more than it would have.

The climate change industry makes up these scares to ensure the cash keeps coming and they keep their jobs.

Don't give a fuck
Its influence on human is overblown, more benefit would be obtained from changing our city development habits now instead of pretending the trend is reversible, and most new pollution is coming from the third world, while the west has been reducing its output for a long time. Yet liberal fucks like Trudeau will still blame westerners and try to tax us for what's increasingly China, India, and Brazil's problem.

>I believe in climate change

Father. Son. And, Holy Climate Change.

There are True Believers. And, then there are Evil Deniers.

Anyone who denies the one true religion should be tortured in the public square until they repent.

It's for their own good.

this
it's the new religion

It's time to throw around charts. Whatever correlates is whatever fits your agenda.

He's right, and the leftists conspiracy theory that global warming exists has been dis-proven many times over. We need more critical thinkers like Trump.

youtube.com/watch?v=52Mx0_8YEtg

Daily reminder:

* A doubling of preindustrial CO2, absent any feedbacks, would result in a maximum forcing of +1.2C.

* The General Circulation Models, and the IPCC, predict 2-8C of warming because AGW theory assumes a positive H2O feedback. They assume that if CO2 causes a little warming, the atmosphere will hold more water vapor which will lead to a lot of warming.

* The warming predictions cover such a large range because everyone assumes a different average H2O feedback rate.

* Every GCM based on this assumption has failed to model temperatures for the past 15 years. They are all trending too high.

* In the late 1990's the modelers themselves stated that if they missed their predictions for more then a decade that would falsify AGW theory.

* There is no data to suggest a +H2O feedback either now or in Earth's past.

* If there is no +H2O feedback then we literally have nothing to worry about.

* The average climate change believer knows none of this. Politicians, citizens, activists, surprisingly even a lot of scientists are literally ignorant of the theory and the math. In their mind it's simply "CO2 = bad" and "experts say we're warming faster then ever."

its not man made

see and

>unironically believing even if climate change was 100% caused my mankind the US of A could do anything about it

There is only a 0.3% consensus among scientists that global warming is man made.

Many well respected scientists even disagree that the earth is getting warmer at all.

It does, but there's not much anyone can do about it, and it doesn't really matter. So my verdict is that global warming exists but global warming problem does not exist, not does any reason to take it into account in decision making.

>mfw the same people pitching global warming are the same people denying The Clinton Foundation's shady dealings

Strange considering how there's considerably less dots to connect to prove Hillary's a fraud.

1. Billions of money (both research and things like carbon tax).
2. Ever closer union of countries -> One world governance

Question. If we have a large amount of deserts that are made of silicon and carbon, and we have technology powered by silicon, and we can make glass by taking silicon and oxygen, why can't we just take all of the deserts, all of the carbon in the air and just replace plastic with glass? Glass is renewable energy.

...

>Manmade climate change is nowhere near as the bad as the climate change industry makes it out to be.

Heretic!
Heathen!!
DENIER!!!

Pay three Hail Carbon Credits, and don't forget to tip on the way out.

I hope the planet cracks in half and we all fucking die due to chaos, atmosphere never having mattered. A man can dream.

and vice versa.

sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/03/150327091016.htm
cnn.com/2015/05/05/opinions/sutter-sea-level-climate/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_sea_level
scientificamerican.com/article/earth-will-cross-the-climate-danger-threshold-by-2036/
ss6m.climatecentral.org/
scientificamerican.com/article/antarctica-meltdown-could-double-sea-level-rise/
sciencenordic.com/cop21-what-does-two-degrees-celsius-global-warming-look
nytimes.com/2016/03/23/science/global-warming-sea-level-carbon-dioxide-emissions.html?_r=0

tl;dr

ipcc.ch/
climate.nasa.gov/

>Ask a climate change denier what evidence would convince him it's real
>Literally no response
Every time

Global warming, I thought we were fixing to go into an ice age soon because the sun was fixing to go into some kinda hibernation period

>deserts that are made of silicon and carbon
>made of silicon and carbon
and is crystallized silicon dioxide, you utter moron
if you could extract pure silicon off of it easily, the electronics industry would boom

>>Ask a climate change denier what evidence would convince him it's real
>>Literally no response
>Every time
That's because there is no way to demonstrate humans are creating something that happens naturally. The burden of proof is on you, and there is no reasonable way to arrive at that.

And there are also many people like John Derbyshire, with solid STEM backgrounds and an acceptance of the case, but who then reject the idea that we must give the government massive new powers to fix it.

The western world is a drop of water in a big bowl when it comes to carbon emissions. Countries like India and China don't restrict themselves, so we essentially allow them to build tons of factories while we close ours down.

>we're on the brink of world war 3
>dude lmao the climate though

CO2 is plant food. It makes the earth greener. Plants love CO2, all life on earth is based on Carbon.

>climate change will be solved by the free market

what

I've sat on an IPCC review panel for Oceanography-related climate research. I can assure you that upwards of 90% of what you hear has been swollen with buzz words as well as data being skewed, omitted or outright ignored if the data doesn't fit the narrative. There is VERY HIGH incentive to keep the government bux influx.

Some of these people I've had to deal with treat Climate Change as their religion and sole purpose in life, and they are not about to concede and lose their grants or recognition.

There is no evidence that it is real. That's like asking what evidence would convince atheists that god is real. They don't believe in god because god is a social construct created to perpetuate religion, religion to perpetuate morals.

Global warming is designed to perpetuate eco-friendly-ism, which seeks extra-terrestrial solutions, to go into space, you need resources, the entire world has enough resources, ergo

Global Warming = globalist myth

WE ALL GONNA FREEZE TO DEATH!!!1!

“Earth Day” 1970 Kenneth Watt, ecologist: “At the present rate of nitrogen build-up, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable."

“Earth Day” 1970 Kenneth Watt, ecologist: “The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”

April 28, 1975 Newsweek “There are ominous signs that Earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically….The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologists are hard-pressed to keep up with it….The central fact is that…the earth’s climate seems to be cooling down…If the climate change is as profound as some of the pessimists fear, the resulting famines could be catastrophic.”

1976 Lowell Ponte in “The Cooling,”: “This cooling has already killed hundreds of thousands of people. If it continues and no strong action is taken, it will cause world famine, world chaos and world war, and this could all come about before the year 2000.”

July 9, 1971, Washington Post: “In the next 50 years fine dust that humans discharge into the atmosphere by burning fossil fuel will screen out so much of the sun’s rays that the Earth’s average temperature could fall by six degrees. Sustained emissions over five to ten years could be sufficient to trigger an ice age.”

June, 1975, Nigel Calder in International Wildlife: “The continued rapid cooling of the earth since WWII is in accord with the increase in global air pollution associated with industrialization, mechanization, urbanization and exploding population.”

>scientificamerican.com/article/earth-will-cross-the-climate-danger-threshold-by-2036/
>Scientific American is part of [[[Springer]]] Nature
>sciencenordic.com/cop21-what-does-two-degrees-celsius-global-warming-look
>Source: [[[Strauss]]] et al.

>We've already got 1.5 degrees Celsius in the works

No, we don't. The global "warming" is caused by abolishing weather stations and keeping only the ones in the warmest places.

A huge hoax.

>nasa.gov

>Germany

Jews. You fucking filthy Jews. Climate change is a product of the rich filthy Jews who would rather keep their factories in China open longer.

A brief history of climate change science:

YO ITS GONNA BE THE ICE AGE SOON
YO ITS GONNA BE WATERWORLD SOON
YO NEVERMIND THE ICE AGE IS ON LOCK
YO ITS GLOBAL WARMING WE'RE ALL GONNA FRY
YO ITS CLIMATE CHANGE NOW WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON BUT ITS BAD TRUST US

WELL YEAH SCIENCE PROVES TRUMP IS A RETARD
The debate is over, and it is time we act
>pic related

>believing in man made global warming
>not believing all the evidence of it being completely made up

smallthoughts.com/climategate/

>Global warming is designed to perpetuate eco-friendly-ism, which seeks extra-terrestrial solutions, to go into space, you need resources, the entire world has enough resources
Holy shit, that's an airtight argument

You could demonstrate that this steep of a spike in global temperature is comparable to anything else in history. If not, that's a huge hole in that theory

>Jews. You fucking filthy Jews.

Has nothing to do with Jews. Has something to do with women. Women always vote for the green bullshit. Women love the green bullshit.

By attacking Jews, you're protecting the real enemy: Women.

Just wait, faggot. Just you wait, buddy. When all the migrants are coming from the coastal regions within the next fifteen years, flooding your towns, storms are fucking flipping over your car, flooding you out, disease is spreading, fucking little bugs and weeds you thought belonged in some god damned sci fi movie taking over your backyard. Just wait. Human beings will be the ultimate cucks.

This means that half of all factories and cars should be from the 70's, so their cooling effects will counteract the warming effects of modern industry. Easy!

>You could demonstrate that this steep of a spike in global temperature is comparable to anything else in history. If not, that's a huge hole in that theory
I suppose you could. But then you'd have to get passed all the manipulated data trying to present such a thing.

smallthoughts.com/climategate/

Just a friendly reminder to anyone who can't make his own opinions and wants to have the correct ones... Sup Forums has always been right. Agree with Sup Forums to be sure.

Gotta be real hardcore contrarian to deny the scientific consensus. That or a full blown tinfoil wrapped nutcase who will believe anything as long as they get to feel smarter than people who hold the popular view. That said the U.S. can only do so much about climate change when you have places like China and India that give absolutely zero fucks and would terraform us into Venus if they could make some economic progress while they do it. Things are going to get real bad either way and there isn't any option to undo the damage, only slow it.

Throughout the 70's the democrats argued that there would be a new ice age. Then they changed it to global warming.

That alone should tell you all you need to know. This is Orwellian. This is 2 + 2 = 5 level. This is them literally abusing the stupidest people possible just to get their votes. First they tell you the evil Republicans will make you freeze to death - Then they tell you they'll make you burn to death. They angrily demonize the skeptics, then they do a complete 180 and all their little sheep follow them without question. When they read what I'm typing right now, they don't even see the contradiction. They just go "oh look it's another one of those stupid right wingers". That's how stupid and brainwashed they are.

Once people really began to call them out on this contradiction, they started calling it "climate change". Climate change has always been happening, it's not man-made, it's natural, and it's not a threat to the planet. And they keep telling us the world will end, and they are the only people who can save us. How many failed predictions will it take for people to catch on to the fact that this apocalypse they keep warning us about isn't going to happen?

LADS TIME TO TROLL BLM >

I was not invited back after calling a few researchers on their shilling. I am far from a Jew, my friend. I'm an environmental scientist that refuses to buy into the utter nonsense and chicken little shit.

The weather stations have been heavily discredited. There were tons of inconsistencies to weather station type, location, proximity to buildings and asphalt, type of sensors used, calibration etc. etc.

Why not just #Boycotton?

But Anons, what if you're wrong?

It's basically all those in reverse. First, we're going to fry. As that happens, seas will rise. The atmosphere will probably literally fucking evaporate. And then we'll be frozen to distal Mercury temperatures (which is right next to the Sun yet frozen on one side).

Global Warming shouldn't be a concern compared to the real damage we've done.

First reasonable answer.

>climate change will be solved by the free market

then global government doesn't have a tool to trump national sovereignties and we can all eventually burn to death happily and free.

>There is only a 0.3% consensus among scientists that global warming is man made.
Oh really? Because leftists always push that "97%" of scientists agree that it is man-made, because of that """study""" done by biased college students """"""proving"""""" it.

The 97% crap was an Australian shitpost you liberal faggots love to puke up constantly.

>“only 41 papers — 0.3 percent of all 11,944 abstracts or 1.0 percent of the 4,014 expressing an opinion, and not 97.1 percent,” endorsed what Cook claimed.

Surely the most suspicious “97 percent” study was conducted in 2013 by Australian scientist John Cook — author of the 2011 book Climate Change Denial: Heads in the Sand and creator of the blog Skeptical Science (subtitle: “Getting skeptical about global warming skepticism.”). In an analysis of 12,000 abstracts, he found “a 97% consensus among papers taking a position on the cause of global warming in the peer-reviewed literature that humans are responsible.” “Among papers taking a position” is a significant qualifier: Only 34 percent of the papers Cook examined expressed any opinion about anthropogenic climate change at all. Since 33 percent appeared to endorse anthropogenic climate change, he divided 33 by 34 and — voilà — 97 percent! When David Legates, a University of Delaware professor who formerly headed the university’s Center for Climatic Research, recreated Cook’s study, he found that “only 41 papers — 0.3 percent of all 11,944 abstracts or 1.0 percent of the 4,014 expressing an opinion, and not 97.1 percent,” endorsed what Cook claimed. Several scientists whose papers were included in Cook’s initial sample also protested that they had been misinterpreted. “Significant questions about anthropogenic influences on climate remain,” Legates concluded.

nationalreview.com/article/425232/climate-change-no-its-not-97-percent-consensus-ian-tuttle

From the skeptical science website, ran by the great Australian scientist John Cook:

>This site was created by John Cook. I'm not a climatologist or a scientist but a self employed cartoonist and web programmer by trade

web.archive.org/web/20080213042858/http://www.skepticalscience.com/page.php?p=3

except when all the methane under the tundra in Siberia escapes and fucks up the global climate even more

who gives a shit

BUILD THE DAMN WALL

He will lose anyway, so who cares?

Well, if you instituted a Pigouvian carbon tax you could argue that the market would work the rest out.

Given that Sup Forums is full of anti-intellectual, uneducated right-wingers that believe in every conspiracy known to man, I doubt that is what he meant.

>leftists always push that "97%" of scientists agree that it is man-made, because of that """study""" done by biased college students """"""proving"""""" it.

From the skeptical science website, ran by the great Australian scientist John Cook:

>This site was created by John Cook. I'm not a climatologist or a scientist but a self employed cartoonist and web programmer by trade

web.archive.org/web/20080213042858/http://www.skepticalscience.com/page.php?p=3

But, I repeat myself.

Yup

And here's the study.

Notice how 66% didn't even take a position. AKA: the majority of scientists are actually scientists.

Absolutely hilarious how that cherry picked 97.1% mean was then derived. Most of the faggots citing it have never even seen this study.

iopscience.iop.org/1748-9326/8/2/024024/article

Global warming exists but it has nothing to do with humans.
Yearly natural CO2 production with vulcanic activity is greater than all CO2 ever made by humanity since monkeys invented fire.
Humans are too small to actually affect climate on entire planet.

>first its global warming
>now its climate change
>there really isn't enough data to confirm the theory

Obligatory graph.

Dude what? Are you saying that there isn't a scientific consensus on this? It very overwhelming supports the theory for anthropocentric climate change. But go ahead and post something from abovetopsecret or whatever that you think conclusively shows otherwise. All the scientists are paid off and you know more about climatology than the entire field does amirite?

What's your solution then, squatman?

Earth's climate has been in an ever changing frenzy ever since it was formed, from how the earth shifted violently in the beginning, to the multiple ice ages and such. The temperature never stays the same for long, as with time the climate shifts on it's own.

Global warming is just a religion that humans came up with to try and make ourselves feel more powerful and important than we really are, that we are the ones causing our climate to change, that we are the ones destroying the earth. This is false. The earth will not be destroyed by our tiny little pokes, it has gone through so much worse.

Currently studying Geology in Texas A&M University.

>cooling was the first meme

Shill? Like that's the most cookie cutter shilliest bullshit I have ever heard. Do you not understand that we're not just humans. We're humans driving cars, constantly pumping gas, fueling and flying airplanes. Running factories.

Huehue, too small. And a swarm of fire ants in the Amazon which are too small to do shit can completely devour a human being.

Sup Forums has lost all credibility to me with this thread. You guys are majority blue pill swallowing. It's unreal.

NEVERMIND GUYS, WE GONNA BE FINE. FALSE ALARM!!!

January 2000 Dr. Michael Oppenheimer of the Environmental Defense Fund (in a NY Times interview) on mild winters in New York: “But it does not take a scientist to size up the effects of snowless winters on children too young to remember the record-setting blizzards of 1996. For them, the pleasures of sledding and snowball fights are as out-of-date as hoop-rolling, and the delight of a snow day off from school is unknown.”

1969, Lubos Moti, Czech physicist: “It is now pretty clearly agreed that CO2 content [in the atmosphere] will rise 25% by 2000. This could increase the average temperature near the earth’s surface by 7 degrees Fahrenheit. This in turn could raise the level of the sea by 10 feet. Goodbye New York. Goodbye Washington, for that matter.”

Michael Oppenheimer, 1990, The Environmental Defense Fund: “By 1995, the greenhouse effect will be desolating the heartlands of North America and Eurasia with horrific drought, causing crop failures and food riots…”(By 1996) The Platte River of Nebraska will be dry, while a continent-wide black blizzard of prairie topsoil will stop traffic on interstates, strip paint from houses and shut down computers…The Mexican police will round up illegal American migrants surging into Mexico seeking work as field hands.”

June 30, 1989, Associated Press: U.N. OFFICIAL PREDICTS DISASTER–entire nations could be wiped off the face of the earth by rising sea levels if global warming is not reversed by the year 2000. Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ‘eco-refugees,’ threatening political chaos,” said Brown, director of the U.N. Environment Program.

Within a few years winter snowfall will become a very rare and exciting event. … Children just aren’t going to know what snow is.”
David Viner, Climatic Research Unit, University of East Anglia, 20 March 2000

>Yearly natural CO2 production with vulcanic activity is greater than all CO2 ever made by humanity since monkeys invented fire.

www2.sunysuffolk.edu/mandias/global_warming/global_warming_misinformation_volcanoes.html

That's a stale maymay you've got there.

>All the scientists
actually most scientists don't make a conclusion on the issue as it requires more data.

Read the damn study. 66% don't conclude in the study your "97% agree" comes from. Stop spewing memes and read it.