What's your argument against this Sup Forums?

What's your argument against this Sup Forums?

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>Taqiyya
>Christian reformation
>random quotes without context
>flag

>Flag
>Roach
Sage

That law is outdated for Christians

See Matthew 5

>Quotes the Old Testament
typical roach

Being righteous and acting justly means killing them.

Nothing. They're both shitty belief systems and nitpicking which one says what is moot since most christians and sand niggers don't even read their holy book and have little to do with how these people act.

This board has plenty of christian apologists that try to use Islam as a shield against criticism, but they're both shit.

>That law is outdated for Christians
What happened to perfect god? old commandement was wrong?

The Islamic verse has been superceded by later more violent versus m8

The trick behind the apparent inconsistency of the Quran and why the radical Muslims are always correct: Like no other holy book among the world religions, the Quran contains an abundance of contradictory expressions. What is forbidden in one place is expressly demanded in another, and vice versa. However, the contradictory quality of the Quran is only an apparent one. It falls apart abruptly when one recognizes the very carefully protected secret hidden within the architecture of the Quran. For the Quranic Suras (chapters) are not arranged chronologically, but rather according to their length – and the newer Suras (from Muhammad’s violent later phase when he was in Medina) override the older ones from his era in Mecca that were comparatively more peaceful. However, this secret is guarded by Islamic scholars very closely as if it were a holy grail – and is aired only on particular occasions.
(An Essay from Michael Mannheimer, Germany, March 23, 2010 )

That's one of the older surahs which were supplanted by the younger ones where Muhammad says kill all unbelievers wherever you find them.

Times change. Hopefully Jesus returns and starts telling everyone to kill splines again.

both books say the same thing

Where in the quran does it say respect people who worship another god? it says to kill them.

You shall worship no other god but allah implies that people who worship other gods should be massacred.

not religious myself, but:
god's plan would seem roundabout to someone who couldn't comprehend the plan. what happened was what needed to happen.

No.

He sacrificed his one and only son, Jesus Christ, on the cross for our sins.

By doing so, those who take him as their savior in their hearts and accept him as the one true God are saved.

That's an interesting translation you've got there Mehmet

He came back and clarified before the Jews killed his human body

Well if you actually read it you would understand

You can read, can't you?

its a good thing i'm not a christian but i still hate muslims

Christians only follow the New Testament, Turkroach. The old testament is just for "general lols and giggles".

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

You see turkroach. if you bothered to read either of those, you'd see jesus nullified the old laws with his new more all encompassing laws. the qur'an endorses violence if they dont convert in 3 years or something.

call me a fedora tipper all you want but when you put it like this it makes your religion seem even dumber.

will turkey replace latin letters with arabic runes in the soon future?

Old commandment was right before the new one. It achieved what it needed to and the next part of God's plan was implemented.

Holy books written a thousand years ago about illiterates by 50 different contributors based on hearsay are contradictory and incoherent.

News at 11.

Fuck off you disgusting roach

"Apologists sometimes point to verse 60:8-9 which says that Allah doesn't necessarily forbid showing kindness to unbelievers, but to shun the ones "who warred against you on account of religion and have driven you out from your homes and helped to drive you out." This is an obvious reference to the Meccans, whose leaders expelled Muhammad and his handful of followers from their city (following his declaration of war against them).

The verse from Sura 60 was narrated shortly after the Muslims arrived in Medina, when it was necessary for the numerically disadvantaged Muslims to build alliances with non-Muslims in order to survive. However, the other verses are from Suras 9 and 5 - narrated at a later time and under much different circumstances, when Muslims had power. These verses expand the scope of unfriendliness to include anyone who is not Muslim."

thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/friends-with-jews-christians.aspx

It was also mentioned somewhere in the bible that gentiles wouldn't understand us as well.

Sorry if you're confused, etc.

what do they mean about being righteous? head off? if they do im ok with it

>It's this thread again

Sage shill hide

I ain't a juice

Both are outdated books written by flawed humans and we should lost listen to either.

yes it says kill the turkroach.

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A new covenant was entered into. New rules were enacted.

Nothing. Your actions define you. The actions of islam worldwide say everything.

so only the Jews understand Christianity, got it.

New covenant for gentiles. Apparently cooking pork makes it safe to eat as well.

>old testament

Don't group me in with those kikes. And do you honestly consider classifying non-muslims as dhimmi and imposing jizya on them is righteous and just?

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if only sandniggers took that part as literally as they take the "kill infidels" part...

Interesting translation indeed:
Bible Exodus 22:20:
New International Version
"Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed.
New Living Translation
"Anyone who sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed.
English Standard Version
“Whoever sacrifices to any god, other than the LORD alone, shall be devoted to destruction.
New American Standard Bible
"He who sacrifices to any god, other than to the LORD alone, shall be utterly destroyed.
King James Bible
He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed.
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Quran 60:8
Sahih International: Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly.

Pickthall: Allah forbiddeth you not those who warred not against you on account of religion and drove you not out from your homes, that ye should show them kindness and deal justly with them. Lo! Allah loveth the just dealers.

Yusuf Ali: Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.

Shakir: Allah does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of (your) religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them kindness and deal with them justly; surely Allah loves the doers of justice.
Muhammad Sarwar: God does not forbid you to deal kindly and justly with those who have not fought against you about the religion or expelled you from your homes. God does not love the unjust people.
Mohsin Khan: Allah does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion and did not drive you out of your homes. Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity.

>Quote the old testament
>"See! you're just as bad as us!"

Surah 9:5
Romans 8:38-39

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Wow you are stupid

Exactly, stupid sandniggers i see posting this pic all over facebook dont even know what acting 'justly and righteous' means doing

Don't know whether that's true or not, but after already having bought a Qu'ran, I discovered that most of the worst stuff (including sharia law) actually comes from the Hadith, which is sort of like a Muslim Talmud. The Qu'ran itself is tiny.

youtu.be/RMMscY7Btus

Christians recognize the old testament as a long list of things not to do and it was all just a setup to show how wrong free will could go before Jesus came to give people the true path.

>Be righteous and act justly to those that worship another god

Muslims are too cowardly to say in plain English that they kill non muslims.

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>when people say quran is more violent
baka t.b.h f.a.m

/po/ btfo!

More info

beyondthecusp.wordpress.com/2007/08/10/which-quran-mecca-or-medina/

Do not be fooled m8, ISIS are the true Muslims.

>A
>FUCKING
>LEAF

The Bible isn't exactly friendly towards other religions here, but the Quran isn't as unambiguously benign as claimed by OP either.

It is not a negative commandment in the Quran: Allah does not forbid you + some extra conditions = a weak suggestion not a commandment.

>ancient desert fairy tales

Who gives a fuck we all know the Muslims are the shittiest people on earth

washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/07/10/leaked-document-says-2000-men-allegedly-assaulted-1200-german-women-on-new-years-eve/

>Alex Jones
k

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thereligionofpeace.com

This website absolutely, indisputably destroys anything positive about Islam. Islam is a curse.

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># of words in Qu'ran: 77,439
># of words in Bible: 783,137

Christians believe that Jesus was the messiah. So the New Testament supersedes the Old Testament.

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>You shall worship no other god but allah implies that people who worship other gods should be massacred.
no it fucking doesn't

it says if you're a Muslim, you worship no god but Allah.

corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=60&verse=8

If you are not warring against Muslims on account of their religion, Allah wants you to be treated justly by Muslims.

So, yeah, I mean, that means that Allah wants them to kill YOU.

But not ME.

That's the important bit.

>righteous and justly
>thinks they mean nice things to a Muslim

They'll righteously and justly kill you in the name of Allah, infidel.

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FOUND THE JEW.

>people invented the concept of gods because they were too retarded to understand the concepts of things like the sun and wind, then kept it going to justify their reason for existing
now tip your fedoras at me

Old Jewish Testament vs. Arabic Quran.
Nuff said.

Exodus 22:20 Whoever sacrifices to any god, other than the LORD alone, shall be devoted to destruction.

Not even worth my time.

It's true. But I don't know why that copypasta says it's a secret. They're plenty open about it, a great deal of Islam is devoted to Muhammad's war with Meccans

Death to Turkroach faggots.

>Killing is bad. God scorns those who murder and slay innocents.
Bad words: 4

>Torture all whom oppose our lord.
Bad words: 1

Go die, Canada.

>total of hard words
You know muslims kill queers, rite?

The Qur'an is unique among sacred scriptures in accepting a doctrine of abrogation in which later pronouncements of the Prophet declare null and void his earlier pronouncements.

>Chapter 9 of the Qur'an, in English called "Ultimatum," is the most important concerning the issues of abrogation and jihad against unbelievers. It is the only chapter that does not begin "in the name of God, most benevolent, ever-merciful."[54] Commentators agree that Muhammad received this revelation in 631, the year before his death, when he had returned to Mecca and was at his strongest.[55] Muhammad bin Ismail al-Bukhari (810-70), compiler of one of the most authoritative collections of the hadith, said that "Ultimatum" was the last chapter revealed to Muhammad[56] although others suggest it might have been penultimate. Regardless, coming at or near the very end of Muhammad's life, "Ultimatum" trumps earlier revelations.

>Because this chapter contains violent passages, it abrogates previous peaceful content. Muhsin Khan, the translator of Sahih al-Bukhari, says God revealed "Ultimatum" in order to discard restraint and to command Muslims to fight against all the pagans as well as against the People of the Book if they do not embrace Islam or until they pay religious taxes. So, at first aggressive fighting was forbidden; it later became permissible (2:190) and subsequently obligatory (9:5).[57] This "verse of the sword" abrogated, canceled, and replaced 124 verses that called for tolerance, compassion, and peace.[58]

Suyuti said that everything in the Qur'an about forgiveness and peace is abrogated by verse 9:5, which orders Muslims to fight the unbelievers and to establish God's kingdom on earth.

meforum.org/1754/peace-or-jihad-abrogation-in-islam

Comparing
>Barefoot hippie Jesus
To
>Warlike pedo Mohammad
While using the Old Testament to do it.

Yep it's a roach.

Dat cherry-picking.

God basically answers this by Jesus saying Jews were a bunch of bastards that wouldn't accept a loving God but now they're ready to open up God to the rest of the world.

Seriously, read the damn book, it's pretty good and you won't sound like a retard when you talk to somebody that is worth your time.

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>exodus

Also jihad

>saved

Nice fine m8, matches this

"'If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

Leviticus 20:13

C'thulu fhtagn

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No argument necessary. Judaism and Islam are barbaric, the New Testament made Christianity without Abrahamic barbarism (like gential mutilation, stoning, etc).

liveleak.com/view?i=f6d_1435932798

You've confirmed Jews have nothing against stoning queers. Fucking neo-nazi trash.

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Abrahamic religions are a plague on humanity.

muslims - have to take their book serious because it was written LITERALLY by their god, can't mess anyway around this

christian - written only 2k years after stuff happened, stories told from father to son, open to interpretation.

Funny enough I read a paper a while ago claiming that it was the reason for christianity to dominate over the at that time richer muslim empire. Because christian were allowed to evolve their views where as muslims were not.

Both are intolerant semitic religions that don't deserve to exist in 21st century.

Christians are better because they ignore most of what Bible says. When they truly submitted themselves to their religion in the past, they were as dangerous as muslims today.

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Exodus 22:20 "He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed."

do muslims sacrifice to allah? if they do king james is very clear what fate awaits them

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Sage doesn't work when you add a picture...

this about says it all pls look

Any Muslim praying really is clean than any christian you have to do these things before every praying which is 5 times a day