>Foreign sec: BORIS JOHNSON >Brexit minister: DAVID DAVIS >Int'l trade minister: LIAM FOX >Defence sec: MICHAEL FALLON >Home sec: AMBER RUDD >Chancellor: PHILIP HAMMOND
>ok, seriously, why the fuck doesn't this motherfucker get a haircut or at least comb that shit? Because it contributes to his image as a ha-ha-funny man.
Jacob Bennett
I'd apologize, but I'm not a Canadian faggot.
Angel Evans
How did that guy get THIS position? I mean, .... really ?
Christian Martin
>ready to cry again The fuck is wrong with her. Does she think that is a good trait for a leader.
Stupid bitch.
Isaiah Bell
Sorry, no link. A couple of weeks ago I read an article on how he actually tussles his hair before appearing in public so it looks a little 'off.' His reasoning is that people tend to not like perfection. They in fact like minor imperfections and it makes regular people feel more comfortable with him...or so he tells himself.
Jose King
I understand user, and nor should you apologise, combos are combos and we have to play by the rules.
Justin Carter
Because he's a shrewd political operator who pretends to be a bumbling fool for publicity
Liam Wilson
Can you back up that claim?
Lincoln Ortiz
more BTFO than this little nip
Henry Rogers
He got elected, twice, as a Conservative mayor of the most leftist city in the country. He edited the Spectator, probably the most high brow magazine left in the world, for a good length of time. He's survived every political scandal imaginable; the left have declared him in the wilderness half a dozen times, every time he has come back stronger.
Everything that would stick to another politician to life slides off him, or makes people like him more.
Xavier Hall
Well for starters he's Eton and Oxford educated. So he's no fool.
Secondly, anecdotal evidence time;
My dad works one of those cushy business jobs where he gets paid to take customers to events/dinners etc to tout for business. Anyway at one of these dinners Boris Johnson was the speaker. The idiot came clattering in 10 minutes late, tie wasn't straight, shirt un-tucked. He obviously had no idea where he was or who he was talking to but he proceeded to give the funniest, more entertaining off the cuff speech my dad had ever heard. The guy got a standing ovation and everything.
A few months later my old man was at a similar event, where the speaker was Boris. He stumbled in 10 minutes late, looked exactly the same, gave the exact same speech.
It's all an act. Boris is just a character. The real Boris is a shady as fuck public school boy who pays to have people beaten up
Angel Peterson
>where he gets paid to take customers to events/dinners
Thanks. What are the main obligations of the Secretary of State for Foreign Connenwealth Affairs?
Jeremiah Howard
Nobody on the planet would pay for that
Mason Johnson
Don't vote for Comrade Corbyn
Jonathan Johnson
>voting for Blairites >Ever
Well, unless it's a referendum on who goes to The Hague...
Camden Robinson
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES
Josiah Adams
I'd rather a Blairite than a dirty Commie again
Ryder Williams
Whatever has happened to Britain? It seems as if the whole day has been taken up by the elite congratulating each other. But about what? A Prime Minister who destroyed his own government because he would rather play clever games than develop any principles, but who wasn’t as clever as he thought he was.
Ships’ captains who run their vessels aground in broad daylight are not, in general, piped ashore with much ceremony, let alone surrounded by applauding crewmen and passengers. They slip away out of sight, while others quietly appear on the bridge to see if they can salvage anything from the wreck.
Indeed, Prime Ministers who lose elections or retire have traditionally slipped quietly away, without Huw Edwards on the BBC describing their uninteresting journey down the Mall as if it were a great state occasion, or BBC helicopters clattering overhead.
The great thing about this country used to be that a change of government was *not* a great state occasion, but a routine matter, without expensive armoured cars and grandiose police escorts. Real authority resided with and derived from the Monarch, who granted it to those who had been blessed by the electors, for as long as they could keep it.
Joseph Clark
Neither are going to win an election, so why not a Commie?
Your choices are Labour dying in a beautiful fireball singing "L'Internationale" giving you the wonderful sound of Blairite's screaming or Labour dying quietly mumbling "W-we were too left wing when we said poor people should only be castrated... m-maybe outright penectomy will win it for us."
Bentley Long
I loathe this change. We do not have a president. We do not normally permit applause in Parliament, which is supposed never to forget that it contains an opposition, and that many in this country have not given their votes to the government. Why couldn’t he just go?
Mind you, as the man who chivvied his (pathetically pliant) MPs into applauding the Blair creature on his last appearance in the House of Commons he so disliked, he must have hoped to get the same.
The Prime Minister is so only because he or she can command a majority in the Commons (it is by no means sure that Mrs May can count on maintaining such a majority, for various reasons, including known unknowns and unknown unknowns). He or she has no popular mandate (I am glad to say) . We do not have to love or even like him or her. Rather the contrary.
These sentimental speeches in the Commons and Downing Street (the only street in London which normal human beings are forbidden to enter) are just not constitutional.
Anyway, why the applause? What is it for? Mr Cameron gave up his job because he realised that he had struck himself such a blow that he could no longer claim to have a mandate, despite his bought-and-paid-for ‘victory’ in the 2015 election, perhaps the most cynically-achieved election result in the modern era.
Having gone, he should have made a resignation statement to the House and departed quietly.
Joseph Fisher
What is there to applaud?
A 1.5 Trillion public debt, matched by a private debt nearly as large, and a budget which continues to require heavy new borrowing every minute, to bring it into balance . A debauched currency, now finally showing the effects of years of printing money through ‘quantitative easing’. A total failure to control mass immigration. A total failure to achieve significant improvement in state education. A total failure to get a grip on crime and disorder (the prisons are bursting and restive). Two utterly disastrous foreign interventions, in Libya and Syria, with the second one less bad than it could have been only because Parliament for once had the sense not to vote for war. National defences (especially the Army and Navy) in tatters. And a successor who is personally associated with the government’s greatest failure, and disagrees profoundly with her government’s principal aim, an absurdity which still causes the mind to boggle.
Applause? What is there to applause for?
Zachary Thomas
>samefagging on a board with IDs
Levi Rogers
>all those women nattering in the background.
Charles Rivera
But as long as Comrade Cirbyn remains in office they have a chance at winning the election. I'd rather the tower of the Labour Party collapse with minimum damage.
Tyler Diaz
>they have a chance at winning the election. Are you the same person as before?
Labour have no chance whatsoever of winning an election before 2025. The middle class don't trust them on the economy, the working class are moving to UKIP and think Corbyn is a wishy-washy right-on unpatriotic tosser, the SNP are to the right of them economically at this stage.
Labour died in 2010, user. Blair and Brown have left the party with nightmarish structural problems. They just can't win.
After absolutely everything that has just happened and all the media furore, Corbyn's ratings are still piss poor.
This is not a man who will win a General Election. It would be a miracle if he (or, to be fair, any of the Blairite fucks) could even keep as many seats as Miliband did.
Adam Long
>But as long as Comrade Cirbyn remains in office they have a chance at winning the election why does everyone keeps saying that?
he's never won an election by the general public. getting carried by entryists and useful idiots at a party-members only election is not representative at all of his chances during a GE.
Last I checked, he had almost no sway during the referendum on his supposed working class supporters. Sure he didn't try that hard, but it speaks for itself when a 1/3 or so of the core voters ignore the party leader.
Andrew Lopez
By December 2010 (Election was in May 2010), Labour were polling above the Conservatives. This remained the case until around Feb 2015, where we entered into "33/33" territory until the election (Tory victory)
By comparison, it is now July 2016 (Election was in May 2015) and Labour have yet to poll above the Conservatives. (Generally, the opposition always poll ahead when the election is far away. Even Michael Bloody Foot did it until the Falklands.)
Sebastian Nguyen
Fucking Americans, why do you have to ruin everything
Robert Flores
To be fair, he wasn't exactly trying to get a remain vote.
One of the few Corbyn memes here that's likely to be true is that he was trying to get a Brexit vote, or at least severely half-hearted in his Remain voice.
In a campaign where migration is a key issue, you don't say "Well of course we can't control our borders in the EU :^) " as a member of the Remain campaign unless you're only a member to fuck it up from the inside.
Jayden Nelson
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Hunter Lee
Quoting polls and that is pointless given they've been so far off the mark with the referendum and with the general election. The political landscape is changing. People aren't voting the ways they once were, and people's primary concerns are changing. I don't think Corbyn could win, but there a lot of factors that need to be considered, such as this referendum mobilizing and engaging people, and with the result, the youth especially given a short, sharp shock. Overconfidence usually precedes an almighty fall from grace.
Brody Collins
Stop this meme.
Polls have a margin of error, and are even less accurate in referenda. The General Election was polled entirely accurately - the result we got was within the margin of error - but people took the mid-section of it partially because it made a better narrative.
Furthermore the Tories aren't being overconfident. That's why we've got May instead of Leadsom
Lucas Richardson
lmao it's shaun
Elijah Sullivan
yeah for sure, that's why I said I'm aware he wasnt trying that hard.
The point remain that a large portion of the labour vote still decided to go against the official position of the party, and of the party leader. And that's already within its first 12 months - the honeymoon period isn't even quite over yet.
I genuinely recognize that people like him, but I foresee more voters distancing himself from him as time goes on. I strongly suspect yet another labour leadership contest before the next GE either way.
William Hall
Primarily it's been going to other countries/receiving representatives from other countries to discuss international matters such as trade, defence, aid etc. Essentially anything involving the UK doing something with another country, or the UK discussing another country. It's a very, very broad job and a lot of the groundwork is done by the civil service and diplomats.
Imagine a meeting to discuss an international issue, say the Syrian civil war, if the meeting isn't that important then diplomats will go, if it's very very important the prime minister goes, if it's somewhere in the middle the Foreign Secretary goes.
A lot of the Foreign Secretaries job involves discussing trade agreements etc, much of that task seems to have gone to the new International Trade minister. Essentially this means that Boris can jet about looking busy whilst Fox does the hard work in the back where nobodies looking. It's a very good setup.
Andrew Mitchell
Oh, I think a lot of people will come to like him personally.
But that doesn't mean they'll elect him. Michael Foot was a very nice man, but we all know what happened to Michael Foot.
Juan Martin
The issue is not his innate unelectable nature, rather he has almost 0 opponents for contrast.
Currently he looks far better than he ever could because he has a Pinkophilic Lesbian and Anti-Aliased John Oliver as his opponent.
I don't want people blaming Corbyn for bad Labour results like the party is worth a damn on its own, cos it's not. He's only looked better as he fends off 12 million rebellions and coups, fueling his image as a stalwart leader, not exactly a smart strategy.
Luis Allen
What? There was a lot that went wrong in the polling. It wasn't one factor or another. It was a combination because there are too many variables. Polling is as imprecise an art as you can get.
Jeremy Corbyn's grassroot support is difficult to predict. The people at the moment who support the Conservatives, and maybe there are more of them, are very lukewarm. The people who support Corbyn, and maybe there are less of them, are diehards. The media is pushing that Corbyn is a dead horse totally out of the race, but frankly, I don't buy it. The way Corbyn has minority support from a frenzied lot, in fact, sort of mirrors the anti-EU fanatics, and no one thought that could happen either.
Alexander Cook
I almost feel sorry for the man, you can tell he genuinely cares even though his ideology is wrong. It's still miles better than the usual drones we get.
Idealistically, maybe corbyn can reshift the party properly to the left so that his successor can something proper with it. While it's fun for rightwingers to dominate, democratically it would be better for everyone if left was truly left, and respectively the same for the right. Maybe shit would actually get done.
Easton Nguyen
Anyone got the Arthas and Uther WoW copypasta Brexit meme?
Andrew Flores
oh yeah, new labour fucked that coup up. there is literally no recovery from this.
the fact they tried everything from pressure resignations, NEC backdoor dealings, ultimatums, votes of no confidence for almost a month and the best they can only produce is Angela FUCKING Eagle is a sign that faction is done for.
Joseph James
>There was a lot that went wrong in the polling And yet if you push polls to the margins, you still get the right result. (Con ahead of Lab, Lib-Dems die, UKIP poll well but get 1-2 seats, SNP kill almost everyone in Scotland.)
The worst "problem" with the polls was completely ignoring the fact that they come with a margin of error. (Had those analysing the polls been saying 31 Lab, 35 Con, for example, we'd all know where we stood.)
The fanaticism of Corbyn's supporters means almost nothing in a general election. Anti-EU voters had the advantage of voting in a national referendum instead of something broken down by constituency.
Remember how fanatical those who hated Thatcher were. Remember how 11 million people turned out to make Kinnock PM in 1992... and yet it wasn't until 1997 when Tories stopped voting Tory that we got a Labour government for the first time in nearly 20 years.
Now realize that Blair was a fucking scumbag who lead to a 10% drop in voter turnout and destroyed any notion of Labour as the "nice" party who don't wear suits and replaced it with "Tories who spend too much and kill Iraqis", and realize that even if Corbyn was the most popular man in the world it'd mean nothing when his MPs are still Iraqi-killers who hate Corbyn.
Juan Brooks
Addendum: Remember, they also thought Ed Miliband was in with a chance. Corbyn's doing so badly that he isn't registering anything like that. At the most natural point, where he should be 10 points up on the Conservatives because he's in opposition and Brexit leads to Chaotic headlines, he's instead polling behind them.
>b-but muh polls were a few points off. It doesn't matter. He should be ahead at this stage even if they're going to collapse later.
Look at Foot. Look how far ahead FOOT was for a while, then he ended up barely beating the SDP.
Ethan Walker
man it's so weird to see parties polling in the high 40s
Luke Evans
Move to Scotland.
Ryder Perez
Conservatives if they play their cards right really could right now. What's really weird there is the lib dem performance - scary to think I may never see the lib dems polling so well in my life
Nathan Russell
This one is more fun, though there's little polling above 45%
>Labour see they're polling well and so put in no effort because they feel entitled to win Scotland by default, having learned nothing from 2007 and been made smug by the 2010 election result in Scotland (no change from 2005.) >By the end of the campaign the SNP are back with a majority under an election system designed to prevent majorities. >By the end of the parliament ( ) Labour are on course to third party status.
Noah Moore
Lib-Dem at the time were the SDP/Liberal alliance, with the SDP being right-wing Labourites who formed a new party (Many actually voted for Foot to be leader before they left.)
There was a point where one of their leaders told their conference to "Go back to your constituencies and prepare for government!" (probably at that polling peak) In the end, The Falklands and FPTP fucked them and they got like 23 seats.
Brody Kelly
That war really did change Britain more than anyone realises. The world would be so very different if we didn't fight, or there was no invasion.
Leo Ramirez
You're sitting on the train as per your daily morning commute, minding your own business when this guy starts angrily demanding you put aside the rhetoric. You politely ask "What rhetoric sir?". He stands upright, shaking with fury and shouts, "That's it, lets take this to the negotiating table!"
What do?
David Campbell
I secretly think Ed is pretty cool. He has a second act in him.
Isaac Rodriguez
A number of points demonstrate the unpredictability of it all. The Conservatives support skyrocketed with the Falklands War. It plummeted with Black Wednesday. It was the polling rax riots which triggered the coup against Thatcher. Events determine the outcome of elections, and the Conservatives, frankly, are entering an incredibly precarious and dangerous situation with the EU negotiations, although they've handled it deftly so far. It's a political tightrope.
Perhaps I'm wrong about the polls, and perhaps they have truth in them. I think, however, there's a deep underestimation of Corbyn, even if that's a feeling rather than a fact. Consider the possible floundering of the Conservatives confronted with the hardship of the EU negotiations, and with whatever does emerge from the battle inside Labour, the situation is anything but clear cut.
>It was a good school, a grammar school, and the kids were well-mannered, bright, self-confident. They were all bound for university, and since we were talking about poetry, I asked them casually how many poems they knew by heart. There was a silence. I looked again at the 30 sixth-formers. "What, none?" I said. I couldn't believe it. Here was the cream of young England, exposed by their teachers to all that is best in our literature, and not so much as a sonnet had lodged in their skulls.
>I am afraid I was filled with rage, despair, and a desire to do something about it. My teachers probably spent more time in Japanese POW camps than they did at teacher-training college, and yet they had one utensil of instruction for which I will always be grateful. They made us learn stuff, and spout it out, and we blushed if we got it wrong; and the result is that I am a kind of slightly wonky poetry jukebox. There must be thousands of texts in there: snatches, fragments and large numbers of whole poems. I could do you a dozen Shakespeare sonnets, the whole of Lycidas (186 lines of the thing) and the first 100 lines of the Iliad in Greek.
Isaiah Turner
Can confirm - saw him speak at a business event a few years ago and he ruffled his hair before he went on to speak. Fairly sure a large part of how he acts is a persona.
Adrian Torres
The fact that she's so easy to bring to tears is a really bad trait for a leader to have.
A leader needs to be stoic, to be able to compose themselves.
She'd be an emotional wreck every cabinet meeting for fuck sake.
Potential to be a nice maternal grass roots speaker maybe, but not a fucking Prime Minister.
