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Argue this:

If Ronaldinho gave a fuck, he'd be regarded as the absolute GOAT.

Bonus: Neymar is already a Top 5 Brazilian of all time and is currently the 3rd best player in the world.

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Argue this:

If Messi wasn't a coward, he'd be regarded as the absolute GOAT

Sure, but that's like saying if Ronaldo was a better player he would be a better player

If Ronaldinho cared more then he probably wouldn't take risks like controlling the ball with his back, and then people would like him less anyway.

>Neymar is already a Top 5 Brazilian of all time

Nerman isn't even Jairzinho level yet

>Neymar is already a Top 5 Brazilian of all time

Pele, Garrincha, Zico, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Socrates, Romario, Zizinho, Jairzinho

Ronaldinho's peak was above 20% of Messi's peak. Ronaldinho is the ultimate nostalgia player. Well, he was 5 years ago. Nowadays you've got 18 year olds who were about 5 when he was in his prime and never even watched him play.

Ronaldinho is more stylish but in terms of producing results no one is above Messi

How is Neymar a top 5 Brazilian? His career so far has consisted of being carried by Messi at club level and stat padding in friendlies and qualifying games at international level

elite opinion
Ronaldinho never grew up

>being carried by Messi
like during 6-1?
>stat padding in friendlies and qualifying games at international level
believe it or not he's unselfish in the NT, see G.Jesus goal against Chile.

If he's not top 5 he's top 6 or top 7, disputing with Romário and Zico. I think he's better than both.

>like during 6-1?
all he did was score a free kick
the penalty was gained by Suarez

>le showboat man
>top 5 Brazilian of all time

Didn't Neymar tried to emulate Memedinho but failed?

Just like Ronaldinho he left Barcelona and they got better, so it's a start

what about the left-footed assist in the final minute m8?

Sergi Roberto had to fly to score, it was a bad cross

also proof that it was a cross, rather than a pass, the box was filled with Barcelona players

>he had to jump to win the ball in a cross therefore it was bad

ok pal I'm done with you

jump? it wasn't a header dumbass, it was a shitty cross that almost ends up in the small box, in the keeper's hand, had Sergi Roberto not flown heroically

Dude stfu you're retarded.

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look at 99/100 times that ends up in the keepers hand

good thing Sergi Roberto was a hero that night, it's 100% on him, not that shitty cross

I agree m8 he should have done this instead
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Costa Rica is that you?

Anyways everyone knows Ronaldinho is the most skilled player ever. I give messi the nod even if Ronaldinho worked hard.

My personal top 5 (of players I've watched)

1. Messi
2. Ronaldo (Brazilian)
3. Ronaldinho
Power gap
4. Zidane
Slight power gap
5. Iniesta/Xavi tie

>a fucking leaf

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Are you two fucking idiots trying to argue that Neymar is one of the top Brazilian players of all time? More inportantly, are you using one single individual game as some sort of proof?

Fuck me lads, I never thought I'd say this but I miss old /so/. Because if this is the level of opinion now then I guess fuck it
>PS. Neymar is probably in the top 50 Brazilians ever, so you were a little right

>Ronaldinho's peak was above 20% of Messi's peak
How is that even possible, you absolute tard? Dinho carried Barcelona in 2004 and 2005, if Messi was 80% better than that he wouldn't even need a team.

>Brazilian math

>if
>if
>if
if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle

>Carried
Yeah fuck Eto'o and Deco

What's with Americans and transgenderism?

If Argentina didn't have been cucked by Brazil and UK and retained Uruguay as a normal province Messi would've won the fifth world cup for Argentina

u wot

Uruguay was Brazilian territory, if anyone got cucked was Brazil

uruguay era parte de las provincias del rio de la plata, por eso hablan castellano

ESO

you mean if he showed up for training. from what i remember he missed up to 50% of the barca practices because of advertising, etc.

owned in his own history
HAHAHAHAHAH

nao, voce ta errado, delete isso galego surrado

it's complicated

>galego surrado

what did he mean by this

Unironically this.

speak spanish
honestly, uruguay argentina paraguay and chile have no reasons to not be a single country other than football, they all speak spanish, they are all white or mutts and they are all christian

But muh slightly different cultures

>If Ronaldinho gave a fuck, he'd be regarded as the absolute GOAT.
agree
>Neymar is already a Top 5 Brazilian of all time and is currently the 3rd best player in the world
lol not even top 10 and he is the second best right now

Ronaldinho ain't shit. His legacy is a meme pushed by FIFA teenagers and vine merchants.

The only thing he's got going for him is that Rijkaard's Barcelona wasn't nearly as strong as Guardiola's.

He had two very good seasons. That's it. Even Rivaldo gave Barca more and that was when the team was crap.

based cisplatina

Ronaldinho is easily, easily the most overrated player of all time.
Had a few great years very early on, PSG and first few years with Barca..
then he had some pretty good years after that.

He was never the best in the world at any particular time, 2006 is when all eyes were on him and Zidan blew him out of the water.

Numbers wise, Neymar has already surpassed him.

Ronaldinho should be considered a top 30 all time, not a top 10.

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Solid come back

>never succeeded when the pressure was on
>never succeeded when other teams game planned for him
>Never had the movement or evasiveness of a Zidane
>Never had the passing ability of an iniesta
>Only ran forward well in the early stages of his career, not as long as say Kaka
>Had a pretty good long ball and a great free kick, though not as good as the likes of Beckham.

but hey moving sideways, doing step overs, and doing that fucking retarded pass where he looked the other way After the ball left his foot in a pretend no look pass was very very impressive.
I said in 2005 Ronaldinho wont lead shit against Madrid, I said in 2006 Ronaldinho wont lead shit in the world cup.
I was right.

He's mostly right tho
He's an absouletely memorable player and tipically a fan favourite (hell, I love him myself), with the joga bonito and the smiling at all times, etc. And even though that's also not the end of his skills, I don't think he has the stature of a GOAT

Never forget what Ronaldinho said after recieving the Balon Dor
“This award says I’m the best player in the world, but I’m not even the best player at Barcelona"

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>Argue this:

ok, if my auntie had a dick she'd be my uncle

fuck i though I was the first to post this

I have a better one
If Ronaldo Luiz hadn't had his knee surgery he would have been the Goat.
in his prime (3 years worth) he was better than Ronaldinho in his prime (3 years worth)

u cant say number wise hes better because ronaldinho wasnt a winger or forward like nerman

Ronaldinho was at very least an attacking mid.
any way you slice it, his numbers don't reach half of what the likes of Messi and Ronaldo have produced, Never mind 10 years of consistency.
you can't put him in top 10, never mind top 5.

>muh stats

just admit you're too young to have it watched him you fag

>brings up stats
>mentions zidane

get your surgically removed dick out of your pussy, lad.
I watched plenty, he was overrated.

And Zidane wasn't a pure attacking mid like Ronaldinho was. Ronaldinho couldn't hold Zidanes jock strap.
quit your bitching.

do you know what "above" means?

>zidane was not a purely attacking mid

T. never seen him play

>being carried by Messi at club level
He carried Barca to the 2015 CL you retard

wew lad under those standards then everything but brazil should be 1 country

Exactly

>zico
>socrates

>Neymar currently the 3rd best player in the world.
he's not even top3 at PSG

To be fair no one would want to join with chile or argentina

Pretty normie takes from canada today

You're so dumb, the fact that you think you're right makes you even dumber.

>Neymar is already a Top 5 Brazilian of all time
>Pele, Garrincha, Zico, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Aristotle, Romario, Zizinho, Jairzinho

>never succeeded when the pressure was on
?????

you are literally wrong on every single point it's ridiculous

zico scored 800 goals as an midfielder, he is absolutely elite

Americans are absolutely obsessed with trannies

spain should be part of Argentina too

This. His play style was a reflection of his personality. A disciplined player would never take the amount of risks he did

He beat Zico already senpai
If he delivers the WC, then he'll be a solid 3rd place

Who are the top 3 players in the world?
Messi, Neymar, who else? Cavani?

>carried Barca to the 2015 CL
>when Messi was at his best since 2012 and Suarez was at his absolute peak

lol ok then

chora

>Aristotle

lol

yes and yes

what

yes

I'm from that town and Portuguese literally doesn't exist here lol
Não essiste cara

>tried to annex it several times but always failed

user, I think you might actually be retarded.