Explain me Central and Latin America, Sup Forums. Why aren't all those Spanish-speaking countries a single one country...

Explain me Central and Latin America, Sup Forums. Why aren't all those Spanish-speaking countries a single one country? What is the base for, say, Nicaraguan or Guatemalan nationalism? As a European, I find it difficult to perceive.

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Latin America/Area
8.135 million mi2

Europe/Area
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3.931 million mi2

really makes you think.

They tried, it didn't work out.

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Because in some countries there are many niggers and in others there aren't many niggers.

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Most of them didn't want to be. Mexico used to control all of Central America except Panama but the Central Americans broke off and then balkanized even more

Colombia(which also had Panama), Venezuela, and Ecuador were all one country but broke up for political reasons.

Uniting Latin America is the same shit as uniting Asia and Africa.

>european
we are special breed, my wild baltic brethren

CHI
We have Mercosur, our countries have different cultures, the reason why the USA are united is because they are all under one flag.

This is like asking the Balkans to form one country.

Too many cultural differences.

Not really, most of Latin America has a pretty similar cultural heritage. The answer is they're full of warring brown people that can't keep a country together.

t. ignorant retard

Chile is culturally different from Argentina, we speak a different lenguage from other countries, Brazil don't speak Spanish, nobody likes Mid. America's people, Mexico is very nationalistic. How the fuck aside from being brown we are similar in culture ?

They are better that way, believe me, I wish my country wasn't so big.

Do varieties of Spanish differ much depending on the country? Say, would a Paraguayan and a Mexican understand each other without any problem?

An Asunceno would understand anybody from every part of Latin America, but somebody of the rural zone would not understand not even understand somebody from the capital, i never learned Guarani since i am super autistic but i once travel to a rural zone and they speak a very different dialect, i don't know if that happens with other countries but aside from that they just got some slangs and a different accent

yes, but is 99% mutually intelligible
Argentina and Uruguay have the most different kind of spanish because they use different conjugations

Because everyone is too different

The only acceptable union is Argentina Uruguay as they are essentially the same country but given how Uruguay was born it aint happening

so fuck off

We tried but it didn't work out, look up first Mexican Empire and Gran Colombia, we literally wuz kangz for a short while.

My black friend is right for once.

to put it into perspective imagine of south Africa and Rhodesia weren't shitholes

now imagine telling those countries to fuse with the rest of Africa

The amount and groups of aboriginals, mostly, and a long history of caudillos fighting over fiefdoms. The dream of Bolivar should come to pass, but there's no will and no education about the benefits of a political union as the original plan called for. Also, the USA hates the idea of another hegemon in the americas.

>the guy who did this separated ""white""" americans from black americans
>in all the rest of the countries he mixed pics of people of all kind of backgrounds instead of separating white argentinians, brazilians, uruguayans, etc from mestizos
Typical ameriscum

You need to remember what happened in Cuba. The world was on the brink of nuclear war and even though most if not all of the Latin america despise the US, they will not "revolt" like that. Actually, that's being talk for a while tho

You
Ignore the filename

Fuck off i'm fine in my country as it is.

That picture is bullshit

Are you dumb? Chileans hates peruvians bolivians and argentinians and thw cycle goes on. Also countries with a strong economy will be helping shitholes, it's not a very good idea

The US isnt as thoroughly mixed as Latin America.
It makes no sense to just smash together all the black, white, hispanics, and asians in America.

It makes more sense to smash together mestizos and castizos because they look simillar, notice how there were no blacks.

To be frank, countries like Argentina and Chile are nothing at all like countries like Mexico and Columbia.

On a similar note, why doesn't Europe try and help unite all German speaking parts of Europe in to a single nation?

ARE YOU KIDDING ME???? YOU ARE LITERALLY HITLER!!


Why would the southern cone want to support the northern shitholes?

just don't reply to the burger
they're usually delusional and ignorant

DUDE

We aren't mixed

Europeans were racist lords who hated niggers

all our presidents up to the last dictatorship loathed niggers

There are so many nigger immigrants that you rpicture is probably composed of them

We do not look like them at least real argentinians outside of the northern provinces which are indeed full of niggers but the population are low cause they are niggers

Where do you think the meme Argentina is white! meme comes from?

Why do you think everyone hates us and we hate everyone else except brs and uruguayans?

Up to the 90s the country was overwhelmingly white but then the mass migrations started

between 2003 and 2014 the country grew 8+ million people without taking in acount all the people who left (which were also millions) we are literally getting genocided

we were the testlab for the destruction of Europe

>The US isnt as thoroughly mixed as Latin America. It makes no sense to just smash together all the black, white, hispanics, and asians in America. It makes more sense to smash together mestizos and castizos because they look simillar, notice how there were no blacks.

What about Venezuela-Colombia-Ecuador? I don't know their history but man do they seem similar to me.

Como dijo El Leon, tipico gordito argentino.

>We do not look like them at least real argentinians outside of the northern provinces which are indeed full of niggers but the population are low cause they are niggers
and the provinces were poor

Other latinos hate you faggots because you're stuck up and always going on about muh Italian and German ancestors.
t. Chicano
Not

Venezuela and Ecuador are very different to each other, Colombia is a weird mix with several different cultures depending on the region.

The reason Gran Colombia didn't work was because it was too big to sustain itself when everyone wanted something different, for example, many Venezuelans didn't like Bogota as the capital.

I have no clue . The problem with most of those countries is that they had a shiton of natives. The most successful countries had little to none or had a bigger proportional European population

There were barely any native to begin with here since they were all sent to work on the mines in Bolivia and Peru

Once all those countries became independent you had a huge population who were exposed to civilization for only a couple of generations

And aside from that all these countries were always vulnerable to foreign powers because none of them had an strong military enough to deter European powers like the US had and the aristocracy were all corrupts douche bags. Both liberators of Both vice royalties (San Martin and Bolivar) ended up dying in foreign countries cursing their governments.

Most of the events that happened here were always caused by decision of someone who lived thousands of miles away

its kinda sad and infuriating.
>Other latinos hate you faggots because you're stuck up and always going on about muh Italian and German ancestors.
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>tfw the United States will be a latin american country in 40 years

Also, please notice how I said LATIN AMERICA and not fucking just Argentina.
Only an Argentinian could be so triggered.

Well, we'll still probably speak English but yeah, Latino majority sometime within the next 100 years

Im sure Germans and Brits are happy when you call them ahmeds

Brown skin = Sub human
done.

>for example, many Venezuelans didn't like Bogota as the capital.

Well, the way things are looking, Venezuelans will not have much of a choice in the matter in the near future.

And speaking of that, what is the general opinion in Colombia about Venezuela? Is the inevitable collapse of the nation a chance to expand your territory or just a headache due to incoming refugees and the like? Would you guys prefer that Brazil absorbs the place?

WHY DIDN'T YOU BUILD THE WALL?

WHY?

There are state congressmen who don't speak english sufficiently to operate in the chamber without a translator.

Where do you come frome esse? Why don't you want to go back?

Hispanic doesn't exist, there's more genetic variety between a European "Hispanic" and a mestizo Hispanic, don't fuck with my heritage kike.

Hispanic is a kike invention to exterminate the European blood in Latin America, KIKES do not want significant European blood to exist at all.

firstg of all peruvians are inca, so they won't submit

also colombia thinks they should just rule the continent anyway they won't submit

bolivia distrusts any foreigners, no submit

argentina has more national pride than texans, so definitely no submit

chile thinks they are smarter than all those brown folk, they just wouldn't rationalize the decision to submit

all the others you can do the research for yourself

Meh, at least you will conquer all of North America

Has Chile received Venezuelan migrants? Some arrived here but were the most educated

where do you think they ll end up if shit hits the fans?

nobody wants to merge with us ;_;

After the revolution against Spain, many of them were part of a single country for a time.

But the South American revolution against Spain differed from the North American one against England in important ways. I'd argue S.A. had better tactical generals (to take nothing away from Washington's leadership and strategic skills),and more of them. But they lacked the political thinkers like Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, etc. that were needed to put together a working national government -- and so fell apart into "militaristic states with a generalissimo pretty quickly.

A whole other continent of significant European blood would make it extremely more difficult to conquer the world considering the difficulties they have with only 1 continent of significant European blood.

What is the reason that you and Chile are separate countries? As you said, both are most European and developed in the region.

>just a headache due to incoming refugees and the like?
This. A few weeks ago a lot of Venezuelans crossed the frontier to get groceries in Cucuta and they seemed locusts. My family that lives there said they left the markets practically empty.

>Would you guys prefer that Brazil absorbs the place?
I don't think Brazil would want it either.

>argentina has more national pride than texans

>Declaracion de independencia
>independencia
>Mexico decide volverse un imperio
>no entiende porque los demas paises de centroamerica no quieren ser parte de otro imperio

Honestamente, centroamerica probablemente estuviera mejor si se hubieran mantenido como una sola union, pero no como parte del imperio, la diferencia entre centroamericanos y mexicanos es demasiado grande para eso.

Because he is Lithuanian and also speaks that. Mexicans only fucking speak Spanish.

Latin America is mixed you fucker, some parts less than others but the majority of it is.
>There are state congressmen who don't speak english sufficiently to operate in the chamber without a translator.
[Citation Needed]
Im from Arkansas, why would I go to Mexico?

America, Canada, England, and Australia should merge because of a common language?

That would be literally Hitler.

Totally makes more sense to mash us together in a socialist tyrannny with countries like Moortugal and Greece, maybe even Turkey and God help us North Africa...

why can't burgerlads understand
>Hispanic - People from Hispania (Iberian Peninsula)
>Latino - Mix between Hispanics and Amerindians

>Latin America is mixed you fucker, some parts less than others but the majority of it is.
Not relevant, only the genetic distances.

>There are state congressmen


The fuck is a "state congressman?" Do you mean "state legislators?"

>why can't burgerlads understand

Because who fucking cares?

this is the kind of comment that makes me doubt about usa actually getting to the moon.

Did you not read the whole conversation?

>what is the general opinion in Colombia about Venezuela?
Not negative but not exactly positive either.
>Is the inevitable collapse of the nation a chance to expand your territory or just a headache due to incoming refugees and the like?
Headache. A civil war in Venezuela+some refugee crisis bullshit would definitely hinder any sort of progress we've been doing to pull our shit together.
>Would you guys prefer that Brazil absorbs the place?
No reason for them to do anything.

There's no good outcome of this bullshit. Fucking venezuelans, i can feel in the air how they're going to involve us in their bullshit.

>most of Latin America has a pretty similar cultural heritage.

We have more in common with Canada, but we'd never let those mapple niggers into the U.S.

>a mexican from arkansas

Goddamn bruh, are there many of you?

She has since been forced out of the senate using a bylaw that required all representatives to speak english, but I guarantee you bylaws like that will be challenged in court and found unconstitutional in the next couple decades.

It happened two years ago so I have to dig a bit.

Canada and the USA--why not?

>Hispanic - People from Hispania (Iberian Peninsula)
I don't know if it works that way in portuguese, but hispanic = related to Spain. To refer to the peninsula as a whole it's "Iberian".

Britain didn't want another country to have access to both oceans

thats pretty much it

2 times it was britain who stopped it the last one was the US with the beagles shitfest

their niggers still mass migrate here tho

They also like to have countries who hate each other because of the divide and conquer thing

its just that you are merging with everyone at the same time

you could call the horde back and establish dialogue instead of outright invading


I don't understand from where does this reply come from? and you are still including us and that term implies EVERYONE IS THE SAME and thats not the case

Wew lad I know civics education is failing in this country, but surely you know that a congressman is a catchall word for anybody in the legislature?

Low IQ. They're in possession of the nicest land, better than America or canada, lush, extremely fertile, gorgeous, yet they create a shithole not able to sustain themselves with, they're the same as niggers in africa pulling the same thing, bread basket but shithole and starving.

Latin america is very culturally diverse. What the fuck are you talking about, burger?

Hispanic doesn't exist and neither does any of the latin american false states, mestizos with mestizos, castizos with castizos, creoles with creoles.

A quick google search says that we've got around 1200 refuees in total, but it doesn't specify nationality. I dunno.

Firstly, we were under two different administrations during colonial rule, us in the virreinato de Perú, them under the virreinato del río de la plata

Secondly, natural frontiers. The Andes kept us separated from Argentina and the Atacama desert kept us separate from Perú.

I see. That makes me curious now. What happens to a country that falls apart but nobody wants the land?

I didnt grow up around too many Mexicans so no, I moved a lot though, I saw more Mexicans in Tennessee and North Carolina.

Latin America isn't more fertile than USA, except for some regions in Mexico and Argentina.

You have to remember that from an American perspective there are only really 3 types of countries:

1. America
2. developed countries
3. dirty brown people

>being this hard headed
Just shut the fuck up, dont respond to this

It would be if they slashed and burned the amazon and turned it into agricultural land.

We will never permit it though.

south brazil should be it's own country

I would leave this shithole back to Cuba if I could execute every semite, nigger, and beaner.

Nazis helped them. Don't forget that. The Jews made the bombs.

>s the country was overwhelmingly white but then the mass migrations started
>between 2003 and 2014 the country grew 8+ million
you are delusional, living in a bubble and trying to convince yourself that you are an out of place exiled 1st worlder.
even if you are actually blonde and a granson of a viking, the way you think makes you a nigger, and a very ignorant and immature one.

Hispania was the name the Romans gave to the Iberian Peninsula, so even doe Hispanic is normally related to Spain it is the same thing as Iberians

We hate each other

The soil of the Amazon is shit for agriculture, m8.

I like the shape of my nation

Dude, we all saw what you did to Perú when you two merged.

Nobody wants that.

Because the only country able to do that is Spain, and nobody will let us do it.

Why do most of the argentinians here on pol have their heads stuck so far up their asses like ?

Turning Amazonas into an agricultural land probably ain't really easy lad