Why do Latinos perform so much worse than whites and Asians in IQ and SAT tests? Technically they're about 50-75% white...

Why do Latinos perform so much worse than whites and Asians in IQ and SAT tests? Technically they're about 50-75% white, shouldn't their scores be way higher?

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pseudo-science

>IQ tests
>reliable methodology to quantify the human mind

poor performance means poor environment

Maybe because genetics don't determine IQ, you fucking moron

shitty living conditions

Our countries never cares favour education.

Even high class is just white apes with tons of grandfather money.

>congratulations user, your ability to recognise a few shapes on a written test means that you'll become the next Einstein!

Poor education and living conditions

Perhaps education affects how well people do on a written test

>they're about 50-75 % white
you just responded your question

Because education as everything else here is a scam.

>IQ tests are significantly correlated with school performance, job performance, income, criminality but let's pretend they're useless

it does.

>asians furthest to the right

how does no one realize this chart is all bullshit?

I think they correlate more with being raised in a good environment.

Interesting.
Should I believe this poster on Sup Forums or the decades of peer-reviewed research indicating otherwise.

Most of those have an undeniable correlation, however significant, with upbringing though. A lot of rich kids I know are dumb as bricks but their earlier schooling would guarantee 20 extra points at least

Even in the Bell Curve, the authors make the precautionary statement that the single most significant determinant of offspring success (and its magnitude perhaps) was parental wealth. Its the most reliable factor in your success as a child

Do you even understand how a normalized distribution works?

adoption studies show otherwise.

>implying the environment doesn't begin in the womb

That's the reason why they need to score higher to gain admission into universities/colleges.

asians and latinos aren't a race, they should've segregated this better

This study and it's authors have more interesting conclusions if you actually read it, assuming you're not the Afghan/Ukrainian guy who'll brush this aside and continue tomorrow

Children with white mothers had significantly higher IQs, suggesting transmission of genes affecting intelligence within mitochondrial DNA

When they applied social stratification the affluent black kids had a higher IQ than the US white mean.

>If you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree it will live its whole life thinking it is retarded
-cesar chavez

So if I gave my dog good education he should be able to achieve a high IQ score

now, that's a good comparison

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Breeding multiple intelligent dogs wouldn't guarantee intelligent offspring either

Well if genes dont determine intelligence then why not? Im just following his retarded logic
Wrong

>whites, asians, blacks separated by race
>all white, black, mestizos, indios spics lumped under the same category

mmmmmm

The most intelligent dogs are border collies and poodles trained for shows and guess what intelligence is defined by? Their compliance with humans.

Meaning dogs bred for talent shows are automatically the most intelligent. Otherwise, how would you define aptitude or intelligence in dogs?

yeah... how about your comparison was retarded? and try staying within our species logic?

if IQ is determined by genes, folks shouldn't be butthurt about it. but this debate will go forever i think.

Your flag betrays you

The crazy thing about Sup Forums is that everyone argues across their predefined racial IQ

I can bet you if we conducted tests here, one of the white Alabaman kids here could outscore Oxbridge doctoral candidates, simple statistics state so.

Its weird that a lot of people here define their intelligence by the white mean and never ask themselves whether a conducive environment would've taken it further, whether they're beneficiaries of the Flynn effect or not and whether academic achievement is a direct product of their IQ

>have an IQ of 157
>spend all day watching anime

I feel so stooooopidddd heheheeejeje


poopie

>white spics
sure thing my dear chilindio
they are so few it makes no difference

Hey! I made this thread a month ago! Not cool, man. Not cool.

Still, it is a very interesting question, isn't it?

this desu, african IQ test would skyrocket in a few generations if they had better education and nutrition

i'am one of them, also why do you save those pics

is that how you deal when people says something you don't like ?

yeah... the core debate lies on nature x nurture. i think might be both; with predominance to the latter.

>i'am one of them
sure

yeah

It wouldnt though, theres always a genetic component

People will probably post the African American average of 85, but decline to say that its higher than India, possibly equal to Iran according to the venerable IQ and the wealth of nations, Ireland was legit placed at 84 back in the day and is doing better than even Britain in many aspects of Society. Poland was 92 not long ago, American arrivees from Europe in the beginning of the 20 century were at 85 around the forties and their improvement is attributed to the Flynn effect today

The thing is, a lot of people want/don't want to believe is that genetic IQ is the main determinant of our potential in anything requiring higher intelligence. Which is basically saying that even 99℅ of whites have little to no hope in contributing as much as Feynmann, Einstein or Oppenheimer to academia

then why are you half amerindian?

This

because they can't decide if it is computador or computadora

>i'am one of them,

My IQ is 120

And yet you're posting on Sup Forums

IQ on its own means nothing.

Selection bias.

Same reason Jews are supposedly superhuman geniuses.

Nutrition has a stronger correlation to IQ than race.

you'd be more accurate if you said "genetics alone" and left it at that, but you're probably some non-white who performs horribly at everything.

>It wouldnt though, theres always a genetic component

It would though you completely missed his point.

Trainibiltiy is only 1 aspect.

that's why ameriblacks are so smart.

Increase yes, skyrocket no

How would you define intelligence and produce a reliable, accurate and reproducible test for dogs?

Yes, but that doesn't contradict IQ being highly genetic. Did someone else than your biological parents raise you? If so, do you really think this is the norm?

Spaniards and Portuguese killed all the smart Natives ones and just raped the stupid (and cuckish) ones

Going from the 80's to the high 90's/100 is a massive jump user.

It is all racism.

>How would you define intelligence and produce a reliable, accurate and reproducible test for dogs?

That's an issue still up for debate.

Yes, this chart doesn't correlate with nurture at all

Holds true in adoption studies

which africans have yet to do even in good circumstances.

Only to a point, after which genetics and nurture takes over.

No, it doesn't. You made this up.

>the schema of your body is entirely unrelated to how your body develops
>especially the brain
>it stopped evolving when ever which ever Out of Africa theory becomes proven correct says we divided in to different not-races (like clines)

Dont forget that math is racists too!

washingtonexaminer.com/its-not-just-a-joke-anymore-theyre-actually-claiming-math-is-racist/article/2638468

Yes, it similar to how laymen with check-lists have been outperforming doctors in diagnosing patients correctly since the 1960's

>US statistics

when they say asian they mean gooks and chinks, like everyone did until the left went on a campaign to hide crime and rape committed by middle-easterners

He's right in the inverse aspect, severe malnutrition is detrimental to brain development, it produces similar pathophysiological changes to cerebral palsy/mental retardation

Horrible example because of the prerequisite knowledge and training doctors require, innate intelligence is what psychometrists try to isolate

>He's right in the inverse aspect, severe malnutrition is detrimental to brain development, it produces similar pathophysiological changes to cerebral palsy/mental retardation
True, but it's such an odd thing to point to. Height is highly heritable (by genes), but if you cut off your legs you're going to be short. Or if you commit some kind of bodily harm that stunts your growth, it's technically nurture but it's absurd to include it.

>Horrible example because of the prerequisite knowledge and training doctors require, innate intelligence is what psychometrists try to isolate
Fair enough, it's was more meant to point to that made up metrics can be extremely powerful despite how arbitrary they seem. If you could use the data that amazon, google or facebook has, then you would find a lot of very extreme ways to demonstrate this.

>implying people undergoing the process of adoption don't deal with issues stemming from said process or that they don't face racial bias.

Reductio ad absurdum doesn't work on this one, I'm not making an SJW argument here.

>Why do Latinos perform so much worse than whites and Asians in IQ and SAT tests? Technically they're about 50-75% white
there's your answer

>Tenochtitlan was founded on an islet in the western part of the lake in the year 1325. Around it, the Aztecs created a large artificial island using a system similar to the creation of chinampas. To overcome the problems of drinking water, the Aztecs built a system of dams to separate the salty waters of the lake from the rain water of the effluents. It also permitted them to control the level of the lake. The city also had an inner system of channels that helped to control the water.

>During Cortés' siege of Tenochtitlan in 1521, the dams were destroyed, and never rebuilt, so flooding became a big problem for the new Mexico City built over Tenochtitlan.

>Mexico City suffered from periodic floods; in 1604 the lake flooded the city, with an even more severe flood following in 1607. Under the direction of Enrico Martínez, a drain was built to control the level of the lake, but in 1629 another flood kept most of the city covered for five years.

>Eventually the lake was drained by the channels and a tunnel to the Pánuco River, but even that could not stop floods, since by then most of the city was under the water table. The flooding could not be completely controlled until 1967, with the construction of a Deep Drainage System.

>The ecological consequences of the draining were enormous. Parts of the valleys were turned semi-arid, and even today Mexico City suffers for lack of water. Due to overdrafting that is depleting the aquifer beneath the city, Mexico City is estimated to have dropped 10 meters in the last century. Furthermore, because soft lake sediments underlie most of Mexico City, the city has proven vulnerable to soil liquefaction during earthquakes, most notably in the 1985 earthquake when hundreds of buildings collapsed and 45 000 lives were lost.

>”These people had no letters nor script, neither knew to write nor read. They communicated with images and paintings and all their history and books were recorded in figures and images, with which they knew about their ancestors and had memory of what they did and what they left recorded for more than a thousand years before the Spanish arrived to this land.”

>”Most of these books and recordings were burnt as other idolatries”, but many of them are still hidden. ”After we came to this land to preach our fate we gathered many young men in our homes and taught them to write, read and sing. As they did well we ensured to teach them grammar and a school in Santiago de Tlatelolco was built for this purpose. This school received the most able young men from all the neighboring towns. ”

>”The Spanish and clergymen who knew about this laughed and mocked, being sure that no one could teach grammar to people so unskillful, but working with them for two or three years they came to understand every art and subject of grammar and speak Latin, both written and spoken and even to write heroic verses. ”

>”As the secular and ecclesiastic clergymen saw this they became frightened of such thing being possible: I was the one who worked with them for the first four years and taught them about Latin and its knowledge. ”
>”As they saw that this project would continue and that they were improving, and they had ability for more, the clerics started to disapprove the school and object about the risks of idolatry this implied. ”
- Florentine Codex by Friar Bernardino de Sahagun, Tenth Book, Inform of the author

Reportedly they also corrected friars for citing wrong biblical verses, in latin. The College of Tlatelolco got closed permanently 5 years after Sahagun's death.

Someone said it in just up. NUTRITION, the Latinos and blacks are the only poors in the USA Asians and whites are thinking how their IQ can be better. They live in perfect life conditions so they have time of this meanwhile the poor one don't.

Its true for the races at all socio-economic levels. They are a few points behind in the averages.

>They are a few points behind in the averages
Can you then say that they are statistically different? A single graphic cannot summarize an econometric paper of pages counted on dozens.

If IQ is entirely genetic then are the descendants of immigrants still retarded?

is right
I have a bunch of papers bookmarked for this bullshit
journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1002355
shows what genes are under selection in humans (mostly pigmentation, and pathogen related ones)
philpapers.org/archive/KAPPOAGood philSci from Kaplan about interpreting race and genetic variation
golem.anth.wsu.edu/sites/ipem.anth.wsu.edu/files/Handley_etal_2007-TIG.pdfShows geographic distances explains almost all Fst variation while gene cluster groups (races) explain hardly any
nature.com/hdy/journal/v106/n4/full/hdy201095a.htmlTechnical paper on limitations of clustering software like STRUCTURE for humans
journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1000500Great look at selection across humans (Graham Coop is a really solid researcher). Guess what? hardly anything is fixed and selection is typically weak enough that neutral evolution can take over as primary driver.
philpapers.org/archive/KOPCCA.pdfTakedown of Sesardic's racial ontology arguments
s of heritability, and general biodeterminist arguments based on heritability
(Cont)

philpapers.org/archive/PIGWAW.pdfMassimo Pigliucci taking down Sesardic as well and putting genetic evidence into reasonable perspective regarding race
europepmc.org/articles/pmc3737365Alan Templeton (renowned evolutionary biologists/geneticist) taking down multiple race realist perspectives
philpapers.org/archive/PIGOTC.pdfPigliucci and Kaplan tag-teaming to smack down race realist arguments
nature.com/ng/journal/v36/n11s/full/ng1435.html?iframe=true&width=100%& rel=
Nature paper about how genetic clusters don't really fit typical ideas of race
readcube.com/articles/10.1038/424374a
Feldman, Lewontin, and King takedown of race realism

good posts

ok apparently some of the papers got deleted for some (((reason)))

lel there's tons of white trash.

Pasta.