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Don't have to. I don't care about niglets kek.

If you aren't intelligent and crafty enough to survive on your own you deserve to die.

Pretty much ancaps in a nutshell. Self-absorbed, ignorant assholes.

Nice virtue-signalling, ma'am

ok buddy

You do realize those kids, their family or even their community might just be DEPENDING on that work?

>everyone but me is stupid
>good thing I was born into a nation that thrives on the enslavement of others and don't have to do anything to survive myself

>everyone deserves shit for being born

i'm not really an ancap - though i agree with a lot of what they say - but you're a fucking dunce.

It's terrible that some kids are forced to do meaningful work when they could be retweeting or catching pokemon

If your multinational shit disappeared, they could depend on real work for their own people.

How am I self absorbed and ignorant?

In an ANCAP society people who care about the social welfare of others can donate their own money to feed and temporarily extend the lifespan of a weak genome.


You are the selfish one to think that it's right to point a gun at someone and demand they pay for someone else. With ANCAP you are free to do whatever you want as long as it doesn't violate the life, liberty or property of anyone else.


This is the only true and righteous mindset.

And what are you doing to help them? Absolutely nothing, you are just as bad.

>being enslaved and made to do work against their will at below market wages

I never stated "everyone but me is stupid"

I just believe that people just should look after themselves and state assistance paid for by force from other citizens is extremely immoral.
I have multiple viewpoints on this.

-Born into a nation that thrives on the enslavement of others, (Your response is so unintelligent and vague) are you talking about the Jewish businessmen who own the huge corporations? The ones that pay a slaves wage to sweat shops overseas?

OR are you talking about black slavery? Where blacks dying of disease and hunger were shipped over to America in exchange for labor?
That those blacks that went on the boats lived 1000x better then the ones that stayed in Africa.

>Implying that swarthy shitskin children shouldn't be put to useful work.

What are you, a communist?

>With ANCAP you are free to do whatever you want as long as it doesn't violate the life, liberty or property of anyone else.
How do we enforce that without government again?

Not really. There's not really much the average person can do to stop slave-labor.

Ohh and also, how much have YOU personally donated to charity or hungry kids in Africa, how much of your time have you volunteered to food shelters and helping homeless.

From the fact that you are writing on Sup Forums in midday with a computer means probably very little. Virtue signalling faggot.

>Vast majority of humans ever born learned to live by helping their family/tribe/community preform subsistence level labor.
>western civilization in the last ~100 years has decided that this practice is abhorrent and is somehow a human rights violation.

Maybe if more children in the west were taught to work in their adolescents, there wouldn't be such an epidemic of worthless, unproductive manchildren calling for society to change to accommodate them (basic income allowance, universal healthcare, free higher education, ect)

No, An-Cap ideology needed.

ANCAP doesn't mean complete anarchy you fool. A very small government dedicated to upholding and regulating the law (Of not violating anyones life, liberty or personal property.. As well as legal issues).


That and a well regulated militia (Heavily armed populous) does that.

>From the fact that you are writing on Sup Forums in midday with a computer means probably very little. Virtue signalling faggot.
Does projection violate the NAP?

you implied that people died because of inferiority instead of circumstances.

our peoples may not be in control of the abuse, but individually we live like kangz because of the international abuse and exploitation.

ancap is rule to the richest. Effectively, the only a difference between a state and a company lies in terminology

>Maybe if more children in the west were taught to work in their adolescents, there wouldn't be such an epidemic of worthless, unproductive manchildren calling for society to change to accommodate them (basic income allowance, universal healthcare, free higher education, ect)
I like how you guys don't see a meaningful difference between actual work done by a child and forced slave labor. Autistes

>"western civilization in the last ~100 years has decided that this practice is abhorrent and is somehow a human rights violation."


At any point in America before the "socialist revolution" a large percentage of westerners were charitable, but there's a huge difference between charity (choice) and having a gun pointed at you (overt taxation with wealth distribution)

>very small government
How does the government enforce these laws if it is this small.

"you implied that people died because of inferiority instead of circumstances."


It doesn't matter to me or the government how they died (unless a law like murder was broken)


"our peoples may not be in control of the abuse"

What abuse


"ancap is rule to the richest."


Wrong, ANCAP is rule of the people. A company can't forcefully take your money away at gunpoint, a company can't jail you for no reason. I can go on but I doubt you would listen anyways.

Why don't their parents just keep them at home if child labor is so awful?

A lot of these kids are kidnapped or forcibly taken from their parents. Also some people are shit parents.

Well I can spend 1000 words explaining or I can give a quick explanation.


Imagine the government we have now. With the exact same police/military force and law enforcement systems we have now. Now defund and deregulate virtually everything else.

There you go.

>own land of another people
>they are too poor to buy food
>can't make food themselves because some asshole abroad owns everything
>can't take the land because that would be theft
>die
awesome. no laws were violated. don't care about em. if this is your perfect world, you are sick.

>what abuse
see above

Imagine a super rich company purchasing land, employing bakers, bus drivers, construction workers etc. to work for their original employees, handing everyone employee IDs, hiring security. Within the area, property is not sold, it's lent.
Then they call their land 'territory', their employees 'citizen' with 'citizen IDs', their security becomes 'police'/'army'. They build a fence around their property.
Applying to work for the company is now applying for citizenship within their territory.

They rapidly grow stronger than the state and may take over.
Best case scenario for 'freedom' is a civil war.

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Imagine a super rich company purchasing land, employing bakers, bus drivers, construction workers etc. to work for their original employees, handing everyone employee IDs, hiring security. Within the area, property is not sold, it's lent.

This is literally what the government is, you dumb cunt except it doesn't have to buy anything, it just needs to pass laws to take it(it's cheaper and infinitely faster to put ink on paper than to buy all the land). This is like saying "well if I cure my cancer it might come back, so I shouldn't even bother".

that's exactly the point I was making

But you dumb shits are so dense you don't even realize how impossible ancap is.

Even worse is that the type of state I described would be a dictatorship right away, not in the interest of the people but only money for the owner

(First part)

"they are too poor to buy food"

Without many regulations easily grown food like wheat, apples, corn ETC would drop in price drastically, the only things that would cause its price to increase is supply and demand. So the only reason basic food would be too expensive is because there are too many people in one area.

The end result is that the person should move out of city and to a less populated area, only returning when they have amassed enough fortune or skills to live in such a luxurious city.

"can't make food themselves because some asshole abroad owns everything"

I am going to say that this is on a large scale of people that are unable to grow food because a person "owns" all the land and is unactive with it.... This would mean there would be a low demand for people to live in that area because of the inactivity, and the people would move to a place were land was available. What you are proposing doesn't make sense as it would be highly profitable to rent or serf your land, and purposefully denying any productivity doesn't make any sense.


"can't take the land because that would be theft"

Because it's impossible to find work and there's a lack of land in America/Canada. Your logic is so terrible. comparable to a young child.
"if this is your perfect world, you are sick."

You have setup a terrible straw man argument. In reality none of this would happen because it doesn't make any sense.


"They rapidly grow stronger than the state and may take over."


Because a corporation can somehow overthrow the heavily armed militia of people. The American people managed to fend off the strongest military in the world, you think a shit company can somehow do any different?

The American people not only managed to defend themselves from the professional trained Mexican military, but also a large portion of the main British army and navy.

"Imagine a super rich company purchasing land, employing bakers, bus drivers, construction workers etc. to work for their original employees, handing everyone employee IDs, hiring security. Within the area, property is not sold, it's lent."

This would only succeed financially if the people were happy, if the owners of that land decided to enact anything unruly the people would leave and the company would collapse. The demand for living on that property would not exist so the value would plummet. There wouldn't be any money left so the security guards and everyone else working there would leave. With ANCAP the state police would still exist and if the corporations tried to do anything violent they would get involved.


Of course if a company owned land and said "if you want to enter my land you have yo pay me a million dollars, doesn't mean that people are going to pay him a million dollars. They will call him crazy and leave.

>basic food

>no sir, we only grow coffee beans here. the next farm is 3 light years in that direction. in the mean time you can eat this rotten dog.


>The end result is that the person should move out of city and to a less populated area, only returning when they have amassed enough fortune or skills to live in such a luxurious city.

>I know this is YOUR land, but I got this paper from someone else that states my ownership of it so you have to leave now. we can only have x number of people here.. on your land... that I own

>america/canada
if that's how far you can look, I wonder who is the young child here.
hint: the first world doesn't have problems on the same scale

>militia
you seem to love money, but you don't know what it can buy

my point still stands that the best fucking case you have to offer is civil war. I am not sure you understand how horrible civil war is. it is absolute shite

States are almost entirely about money for the owner RIGHT NOW, most of the regulations and taxes aren't to help you, but to help special interests.

Also, with these companies people have to keep buying its things and these things have to be built up slowly, if people see that Apple or Nestle or whatever is building itself an empire or an army or taking huge amounts of land, they can just stop buying, or they can refuse to sell the land to that company, or they can leave the company, or shareholders can drop their shares, or electricity companies can boycott them, or etc.

you will grow out of that phase eventually, pal.

just remember that civilization started out of ancap (albeit without literal money). we went through some time of monarchy etc. after that. who knows why


yup the current system is bullshit too

your ancap fantasies expect every person to be virtuous, but it is exactly the capitalism that is unvirtuous.
if positive stability could ever be obtained, it would be through open benevolent dictatorship


good night.

>">no sir, we only grow coffee beans here. the next farm is 3 light years in that direction. in the mean time you can eat this rotten dog."

(Reality) No, sir.. food is expensive here because you are standing in the middle of New York square, where (for example) the rich people living in this area prefer organic handpicked apples from California. If you want a better price on food you should go outside of the city.

>"I know this is YOUR land, but I got this paper from someone else that states my ownership of it so you have to leave now. we can only have x number of people here.. on your land... that I own"

What are you even trying to say? ANCAP doesn't mean anarchy. Like I said 2 million times the small government still exists to regulate laws and enforce them. So legal documents still exist.... NEXT.

>"if that's how far you can look"

I was giving an example in my area.


"you seem to love money, but you don't know what it can buy"


Money printed by the government backed by gold. Thought only more money would be printed if under direct democracy it was voted that more should be created.


"you have to offer is civil war. "


How?


"horrible civil war is"

Deutschfag trying to lecture a American on civil war. Bitch please.

i am not reading that too tired

>you will grow out of that phase eventually, pal.

Not an argument.

"good night."

GTFO child your arguments are pathetic.

Right, and when every average person who "cares" but does nothing is part of the problem. There are a lot of things you could do if you gave a shit.

Define "Slave labor"

Statists have NO ARGUMENTS.

Being forced to do work against your will or being forcibly denied salary by an employer

>parasite complaining about his host not wanting him around
lmao

>"Being forced to do work against your will"

Call police, Remember this isn't 1800's...


>"being forcibly denied salary by an employer"

If small amount (like a days wage) suck it up.
If large amount (Like weeks wage) Take him to small claims court.

Ancap and anarchy are two hugely different things.