These guys are more deserving of independence than Cataloners. Who agree?

These guys are more deserving of independence than Cataloners. Who agree?

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Do you refer to all the Basques or just Navara?

Freedom to ALL nations! DEATH TO IMPERIALISM! DEATH TO COLONIALISM!!!! G

>"muhmuhnuhmh we need to keep exploiting and enslaving x for y"

FUCK YOU! If any a pathetic coward deserved to be be overthrown, beaten and disgraced, it is YOU imperialist SWINE! Justice will be served, YOU WILL PERISH UPON THE UNBREAKABLE SPEAR OF FREEDOM AND BURN UPON THE SACRED UNQUENCHABLE PYRE OF LIBERTY!!!

I agree

Feeling right, iceman?

I feel the burning desire for the liberation and freedom of all humans, nothing else.

Based révolutionnaire

Ice Land is exactly right desu

why do i get the instinct to hate every thread made by a nip?

fuck off filthy stinking commie bastard

If hes white he cant do communism.just rcobomic justice, whites never did socialism.

go play with your dick you mouth-breathing retard

Much like Sportacus?

Shalt you attempt to foil the liberation of the people? Then you shall die. I may not be so fortunate as to pull the trigger upon you, but know this! If you DARE to enlist with fascists, you can be sure that your death won't be merely a moment, but a cascade of suffering, by the hand, knife and whip of liberty!

Merci camarade

Do you refer to the basques or all the former Navarra Kingdom ?
the answer is yes to both

nobody loves you and you will never be happy in life no matter how much you try

japonia naiz.
euskala hitz egiten naiz.

>DEATH TO COLONIALISM!
Björk pls calm down

it's none of our business

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The south is basically a hillbilly populated quasi-desert and nobody speaks basque there

Compared to the rest of the basque country, basque isnt very spoken in pamplona either. You will hear it and can use it, but spanish is much more widespread

Kristján?

reminder we invaded iceland with 1 casualty (a suicide)

My point is that basque = navarrese = basque.
The fact is that La Ribera has suffered a big brain wash and that every basque-friendly person was killed during the Civil War.
Damn it, not 100 years ago, people there voted massively in favour of the Basque-Navarre By-Law until the shit hit the fan.

That may be true, i dont really know senpai

The fact remains that trying to claim all former basque territories as part of a independent basque state would be madness.

This is coming from a basque speaking navarrese.

And the image you posted is from a monument in pamplona, in defense of the foral law.

The whole "God and the ancient laws" thingy is not as central to basque nationalism as it used to be.

Pro spain people here in navarra would also go nuclear apeshit if foral laws were abolished.

Its our right by birth :^)

literally who

Japanese and rude finnboi attention

:3

Zein herrikoa zara?

>The fact remains that trying to claim all former basque territories as part of a independent basque state would be madness.
Meh, it is a matter of time. Younger generations are more prone to independence than older ones. We'll see.

>And the image you posted is from a monument in pamplona, in defense of the foral law.
Yes, I know. What I meant with that image is that not even 100 years ago navarrese felt basque as a whole. Things have (been) changed quite a bit in these years.

>Pro spain people here in navarra would also go nuclear apeshit if foral laws were abolished.
Are there really that many? Because most people I know might not be pro-basque, but definitely neither pro-spanish. Pic related.

why is basque language so difficult?
i studied it for two years and was able to read some anecdote.
but when i went there last summer, it was completely impossible to talk with people in it.

Iruindarra

Benetako españolistak/karlista ez ironikoak ez dira asko.

Euskaldunak ere ez direnak turbo-nafar nazionalismo arraro bat jarraitzen dute, eta ez dute gustoko euskal herri batu baten ideia, gu erregeak ginelako etc etc

Jendearen gehiengoari berdin zaio tho

Fugg euskera herdoiltzen ari zait

Feel you senpai

I speak it since im 2, went to uni abroad for 4 years, and when i came back i spoke it like a fucking assclown. To the point i rather not use it with certain friends because i know they are shiggydigging internally kek

The steep from basic knowledge to being fluent is crazy

i love this song
m.youtube.com/watch?v=UDJ4wHDGi0k
when i gernikako arbolera joaten naiz, i was like one who keenly long for euskala independence in spite i'm japonia

Best ally

I really like that song too, its refreshing to have an anthem not speaking about glory and shiet.
The representation of culture as a tree, something you have to take care of to see it grow and spread its fruit is very fitting.

btw how come you studied euskera over there

Bai, badakit nafar askok ez dutela Euskadirekin herri bakarrik bat egitea. Baina uzte dut, azkenean, abertzale gehienok gure estatua Nabarra izatea nahi dugula. Ikurriña niretzat euskaldunen (kultura) ikurriña da, baina estatuarena pomelada ikurriña dela (OP bezalakoa).

Dena den, espero dut egun batean gure bi herrialdeak bata egitea.

my university offers me class to study it, and i'm kinda linguistic mania, that's why i studied it.(i was alone in that class lol)

i almost forgot it, but i'll visit your country again.

so this is one of the euskala text.

Nire impresioa betidanik izan da euskaldunen gehiengoa ez zuela nahi nafar ikurrinpean bat izatea

Niri berdin zait, egia esan, ez naiz oso jeltzalea.

>Euskala
You can say euskera, euskara, euzkera and many more, but euskala isnt correct.
Its like you are saying it in mock asian accent, not saying the r kek

It seems nice to be able to learn small languages in uni, you really learn a lot about languages as a whole studying many different ones.
It seems pretty advanced too desu, definitely not something i would make a begginer read

You are always welcome, a foreigner who has studied the language will receive a lot of sympathy here

Godspeed lagun, feel free to ask if you have any doubt or need resources

Make a basque minigeneral
Your language is cool af

Basque is not spoken in the Basque country to begin with lol

>Basque is not spoken in the Basque country to begin with lol
Ok lad, time to go to bed.

>basque = navarrese = basque.
Navarrese is its own language you dumbo.
es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navarroaragonés
Also Batua is a made up construct of the XIX century.

>Basque is not spoken in the Basque country to begin with lol
>Amerintellectuals

What the fuck is La Rioja

There was one at some point, but we must be like 5 tops.
It would be deader than /esp/, and that is something lel

Yeah, its kind of like english in the USA ;^)

All 50 states of the USA should be sovereign nations.

We do the albanian general with 4 people

Only 15% of Basques speak the language. Walking thrpugh any city there you just hear Spanish. Only in Guipuzcoa you hear some Basque residually. In Alava and Biscay is nigh impossible outside of Batasuna meetings.

And here we have the idiot from America telling BS. I was talking about people (navarrese people). Also navarrese language was just the romance language in Navarra, not the only one, morn.
Batua is just a standarization as every other language has had.

Batua is an unified dialect, teaching it and using it for administrative purposes would be a nightmare otherwise

Ill keep that in mind, oh wise american
Are we white or not tho

It is a death language. It is only used at Batasuna meetings and at school. You clearly have no clue mate
I can survive on English alone. Surviving on Basque alone in the Basque country would be tougher than on Arab or English alone lol

>In Alava and Biscay is nigh impossible outside of Batasuna meetings.
KEK

>Batasune meetings and school

They are one and the same since the 90s you dum dum
Saves a lot of time for bomb-making

Navarrese was just replaced by Castillian as it happened in Aragon and Leon. That is why most people in Navarra don't speak Basque outside of the border region. In fact Basque was never spoken in places like Alava and never will despite PNV autism

Batua is barely understood by non-batua speakers. It is a huge meme to recieve linguistical gibs me dats for a language that ia more death than Alexander the Great. You can still ahout Aita and other meme words while just speaking regular Spanish if you want to feel special lmao

I have spoken batua with people all around the basque country and its perfectly fine

The problem usually comes in the other direction, when people use very local vocabulary or some villager accents

But think whatever the u want fampai, its not like we give a fuck

eskerrik asko!
I've already been to places like Bilbo, Gernika, and Donostia. where should I go next?
and have you irrakurri his poems, which is now regarded as the first one written in basque?
es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernat_Dechepare

this is a picture i took in gernika. glad to see the statue of Iparragirre.

Yeah, we are taught about Dechepare and his Linguae vasconum primitiae in school, eta duela gutxi irakurri nuen berriz.

If you read it phonetically its very similar to actual basque, the grammar he uses is very different though.

>Iparagirre
Nice
His songs are not very well know nowadays but hes godtier

youtu.be/uu7L2Hx9gHY

I would say definitely come and visit Navarre, but it may not be the best choice if you want to learn euskera.
Its still not as beautiful as Donostia imo

Thx! I`m looking forward to traveling.