Who here yang gang?

Who here yang gang?

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I'm just here for the memes please

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>who here is a lazy zoomer that wants a free 1k a month?

Fixed that for you. Lazy fag

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>Not voting for the only qualified democrat who could stop Orange Trumpanzee

Fucking coomers.

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Serious question though, is UBI communism and if not, what's the major difference

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Lazy or not, I don't know a single person who wouldn't want a free 1k a month from taxing bezos (and spending it on more shit from amazon).
In fact, I think people who work their asses off might appreciate it even more than those who don't.

Political shills

the difference is that UBI only makes sense in capitalism, and communism isn't capitalism.

Communism is a centralized micromanaged economy
UBI is a socialized economic dividend provided in a capitalist economy to ensure that people can afford to consume and drive the economy in the coming AI and robotics revolution.

What's gonna motivate these retards to work? Give me a logical answer. Otherwise they'll literally live with mommy and daddy and play fucking WoW all day

butthurt trumpsteiner

I would be if it werent for the fact he has no chance of winning

>Bezos moves to a different country
>UBI cannibalizes itself to death
>Yang "commits suicide" because his policy accidentally touches a jew

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Hey look man I said up front I'm about memes I could give 2 shits about andrew yang

Anyway what is a political shill. If it's anyone who disagrees with what you like, that's one thing and if people really get paid to post here then I'm in the wrong racket

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I mean Amazon pays nothing in taxes and consistency forces smaller companies to close or go insolvent due to them bullying everyone else with free one/two day shipping and low prices. Bezos is literally among the top 1% of the 1% of the 1%. He should be taxed like everyone else and the American citizens should get a kickback for putting up with this corrupt bullshit. I make 35k a year, I pay 15-25% of that to taxes. Amazon makes billions and consistently pays 0$.

Because no one can live on only $1000 a month
It's a supplement

Who cares?
Honestly. Most people will work because it gives us purpose. We are rapidly creating an economy where we wont have enough jobs for everyone despite having the resources to provide a good quality of life for everyone.
UBI gives people the economic freedom to innovate, start new businesses and enterprises, and do the work that fulfills them.
UBI will be nessecary in 20 years when AI and robots are doing 90% of our current jobs.

If he wins and UBI happens, then everyone's technically paid to promote him

yang is the best democrat candidate yes

He's not gonna win, that gay guy isn't gonna win, Beto Kennedy won't win

BD Wong?

I am from the Guinness book of World Records. I aim to record the "worst person at arithmetic ever" I am shocked that it is an Asian person tbh.

did you reply the right poster user?
I mean you're making it an argument about categorization and I'm trying to say it's an argument about rhetoric and scale

If it gets presented to the american people a certain % will think it's commie handouts, and I think the difference is scale and not categorical

That % of americans might be well. Most americans

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Listening to this made me realize he is a great candidate
freakonomics.com/podcast/andrew-yang/

No logical question, no logical answer.
Who are "these retards"? You haven't mentioned any stats, nothing. And work doing what? Name a job that isn't going to be automated in the next 10 years which will be able to employ half of the "retards" you mention.
1k a month will give people time to think and innovate and create new forms of socially productive activity without having to waste that time thinking about how to survive.

Lol where's he going to move? China?
And second of all, why would he? UBI gives people more consumer money. i.e. more money to buy his shit and keep his business running.

>If it gets presented to the american people a certain % will think it's commie handouts

The entire population of Alaska doesn't think it's commie handouts because they've been getting them for the past 30+ years from their oil money.

But that's oil
It's different somehow

Not to mention every veteran thrives on their socialist money

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If you think the USSR government or CCP China have ever handed out free money to their citizens for any reason at any point in time, then I'm not sure what to tell you.

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>UBI gives people more consumer money. i.e. more money to buy his shit and keep his business running.

I'm using mine to buy drugs

I believed Yang was the only real threat to Trump a few weeks ago. Now I'm wonder if Yang will become the threat.

Biden: Fucked by the Hunter scandal. Btw Hunter's Ukraine deals were nothing compared to his China deals his dad helped him with.

Sanders: Heart attack has knocked his ass out.

Warren: Any serious look at her will render her unelectable. Nevermind she's too far left. Her entire career has been playing the victim card will climbing on top of people. You'll hear dipshits claim she never profitted off claiming to be an Indian. You know, except the cook book she sold, the jobs she got because diversity points are huge. She fucking minoritied her way to Harvard. And it never ends with her. Today's scandal is the bitch claiming she lost a job for being pregnant. You might get SJW woke points by having the sobbest story, but it doesn't win the presidency.

Harris: She has literally no fucking ideas, talent, or experience. She was handed two offices without an vetting or competition. She doesn't stand up to a second of scrutiny.

Buttegg/The bitch with a dress/other: I don't even know who the fuck these people are. They might be the best candidate ever but they aren't even known, and I doubt they're worth a fuck anyway.

Yang's only hangup is himself. He sometimes does shit the stupidest way. Like the Trump style "Special announcement at the next debate" bullshit. Took a good idea from a candidate I already like, and made it seem like a gimmick.

Yang needs to kick the fuck into high gear and pass all these fucks up right now. Or at least be ready, because the retard dems in Congress are shitting on the campaign by stealing the show with their nonsense.

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more power to you, buddy. just make sure you don't spend it all on the first day. you only get 1k a month.

He's legalizing weed and giving you a grand per month to spend on it
Fuck yeah

These anti-yang threads are shills for koch brothers and republicans who want to preserve income inequality.

You know how Biden wins? He makes Hillary his Vice President.

I want his $1000/month for hookers and blow.

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Maybe, or maybe people actually have opinions
who knows. I can't disprove they are schills

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she'd never take it

I can't get behind the anti-gun thing
Even if he's a great candidate, even if UBI is the future and he wants to legalize weed, even if everything about him is great except guns

When you fuck with guns I'm out, sorry. I don't care about gun violence and I would still be pro gun if every child in america died

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Who’s his vp you think?

I feel weird being in this position, because as a libertarian I'm always wrong and evil according to the mass of retards, because I expect people to use their own fucking muscles to move their body and their own fucking brains to give it direction.

But I'm willing to see if UBI works. Not shove it down people's throats regardless, but actually try it out.

What feels weird is I'd normally be on the side of the image you posted. But on this specific issue the problems I see are
1. Corporatism/crony capitalism/protectionism/ whatever you want to call it has made honest capitalism illegal and nonfunctioning in the U.S.

The heart of capitalism is each individual's freedom to choose. But we make nothing but tens of thousands of laws banning choices. We make artificial monopolies or oligarchies all over the fucking country. If everyone could possibly buy a little land, get a house, and start their own business, then wealth wouldn't be so concentrated and people would have options out of poverty. But laws stop this. Licenses, fees, permits, zoning, BULLSHIT. So a handful of people get to be the boss. A handful get to own the land. Fine if that's how it hast to be, then that handful can pay for fucking everything because they FUCKING OWN EVERYTHING.

There are many paid merchants of doubt on the conservative side......all they need to do is plant doubt in people’s minds and it helps their cause. Climate change doubters are the most obvious example.

It’s just a new form of lobbyist.

sorry, I'm with Corey's Klan

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What's motivating them to work now?
Isn't California full of homeless while the unemployment rate is supposed to be low as fuck?
Wut?

Biden? Probably cory booker or some minority presidential candidate that fails. Booker would probably be willing to give rousing speeches and campaign while Biden just works

You realise the only reason these services are fucked in America is because the republican party are giant shills for industry and have gutted as much as they can from public programs.

Jesus christ americans are retarded.

Yang is east coast. He'd need mid-west or west coast to balance the ticket. Maybe Kamala Harris

I like how amazon isn't even ashamed if everyone knows they would can every single human employee there was if they could and go full robot

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Congratulations
You're now the typical Yang supporter

I mean don't conflate what's happening on fox news with what happens on Sup Forums
Yeah there probably are russian firms because they have admitted as much that post on facebook, probably Sup Forums too, that had an influence on the 2016 election

That is a fact. However that doesn't make everyone with an opinion you don't like a paid shill my man, sometimes people really are conservative or whatever, or just disagree

I don't know about new form of lobbyist. A lobbyist has a specific job, and talks to influential people in government to get their agenda known to politicians. Shilling on Sup Forums fills a very different role- Sup Forums is not congress

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Ironically Amazon starting pay is $15/hour where everywhere else it's min.wage. Amazon also starts with benefits and regular wage increases. This is for unskilled warehouse jobs. You want to demonize a company because of technology and market conditions, be fair about it. They are paying better than anyone starting out.

I don't even smoke a grand worth of weed a month.
Honesty I would probably put most of it into fixing my fucking house. Fucking house is expensive.

Amazon paying $15 is not my problem with amazon (not the poster you replied to), amazon is shitty because of people wearing diapers to work trying to meet unrealistic standards and being denied bathroom breaks. And union busting, when collective bargaining is a protected right

I also support Trump.

If it becomes Yang/Trump my world will implode because I've never wanted either major party candidate to win in my life. Now I want Trump, or Yang.

I don't know what it's like to vote even thinking anyone I vote for could ever win.

For the literal 10 employees in the warehouse. Everything else is robots already. You should visit one and see for yourself.

Good news, it only matters if you live in a swing state
General elections are a joke

There's a shitload where I live. They are constantly hiring. $15/hour to decide where labeled boxes go.

Yeah but still.

Funny thing is that it's the ones who champion 2A on the soapbox have actually done more to erode it than the grabbers.
If I remember correctly rang was also far more pro gun than he is now prior to the last few rounds of mass shootings.

That's what high turnover from being treated like shit looks like

You think the buying power would remain the same?! Lulz

I'm libertarian as well and I'm honestly looking hard at yang.
The fact that's he's generally ignored is also something of note. Reminds me of things....

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I'm sorry I haven't a clue what you just said at all

Legit what is 2A and what are grabbers please

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OK. Please navigate me to where the job is good and not shit. Or where I am allowed to start my own business and won't be financially ruined by the state with dragged out years of permitting, licenses, and unions suing me for environmental reports.

Give me capitalism, or give me Yang. In the meantime I want Trump stomping on shit and pissing everyone off because it's all fucked and everyone should be mad.

UBI takes away the power from corporations dipshit
You're asking for Yang and are too retarded to know it

Their turnover rate is horrendous, people that work there wanna kill themselves. I'd rather be unemployed than work there.

2A: The Second Amendment to the United States Constitution. Supreme Law. Shall Not Be Infringed.

grabbers: People who don't understand what "shall not be infringed" means/ people who don't care about rule of law/ people who hate America.

Ok I think I get it, 2A=second amendment
grabbers=gun grabbers, meaning dems?

So if 2A has done more to erode it could you justify that statement with evidence or any kind of support, even conjecture, at all, I'm not trying to prove you wrong I just want any reasoning behind it

"You're asking for Yang and are too retarded to know it"

...But I am literally asking for Yang. Fuck these corporations. Fuck the government. Drain fucking everything.

Every single person I've talked to who claims to have worked amazon warehouse says it's a shit job. Must be since the turnaround is sky high even with good starting pay and functional benifits

But it literally isn't communism. Communism is centralized planned economy. UBI doesn't make any sense in a communist system. UBI only works with capitalism.
Communism would be the government owning all the corporations.

Lobbyists/ shills being paid to spew negative talking points to the disenfranchised Sup Forums demographics to counter UBI makes perfect sense.

The wealthy are fearful of losing their wealth and they will continue to con young conservatives obsessed with the culture wars into supporting their causes.

Recall how Occupy Wall Street and the Tea Party started out as the same movement, but one appealed to liberals and anarchists, while the other one was co-opted by conservatives and helped to create the alt-right.

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His ideas won't become popular until there is enough civil unrest due to unemployment caused by automation, at which point throwing money at poor people will be the vogue solution.

What he's saying is partly true, but from an angle.

People who vocalize support for the Second Amendment often times piss off people who want more restrictions. So they in turn work towards enacting more laws against guns.

I can name two specific examples that piss me off to no end because it highlights the purity of government corruption:

The Black Panthers were protesting bad police, racism, etc. and saying they needed to police their own communities, so they protested outside of the Sacramento Capitol with shotguns. They were showing off their right to bear arms and peacefully protest unjust government. What did the government do?

Banned loaded open carry of guns.

They were still worried about violating the Constitution so they argued that it wasn't a violation because one could reasonably still load a gun quickly if they had a just reason to do so.

Jump forward 40 or so years. People in Calfornia start having Open-Carry protests. They are pissed off at all of California's restrictions on guns. So they peacefully assemble and carry empty guns. What did the government do?

Banned open-carry of any sort.

At this point they didn't give a fuck about the Constitution, California is now as liberal as Russia so they instead just openly admitted they did it because fuck those protesters. They actually had the balls to say that the justification was that unloaded open-carry could easily become loaded open-carry.

Meaning the same state government both created and banned unloaded open-carry for the same reason.

Not just Dems
Generally dems
Some dems like guns too. I've shot inanimate things with liberals before.

I said that politicians who claim to be pro gun have actually done more to take away guns than the people who vocally want to take away guns.

My job is already shit. And my last 4 were shit. So I personally don't care.

I have a B.A. from Cal and I'm an honorably discharged veteran with experience in electronics and leadership.

I haven't been able to get anything better than minimum wage in over 10 years since getting out. I've applied to hundreds of places. I've got medals, citizenship awards, and "employee of the month" out the ass. Nobody will fucking hire me above minimum wage bullshit work.

That's my lot in life. Fine. I'll take $15 with a shit job over $12 with a shit job. The best I can do other than kill myself, which is always an option.

Veteran
Fuck off
You already get UBI dipshit, you just can't stand other having it

All I'm saying is it's a hard sell, not to me but to the right and the center, and this is conjecture but I think maybe up to half or more of the population, especially old people, are gonna have a hard time believing it's not communism

It's like a free shot for fox news to make the comparison
ok but tea party and occupy were never the same movement, I could believe it's happening but I doubt the scale and the efficacy
There are millions of unique posts on Sup Forums every day, what % do you really think could come from a concerted effort of paid shills
Maybe some but certainly not all and it's disingenuous to discount someone's argument on that basis unless it's ponderously obvious

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Meg these fags think they better at math than a rich Chinese guy

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I don't get any money. You have to be retired. I'm not retired. My military pay amounted to less than minimum wage accounting for the number of hours I worked.

I won't argue there is a lot of waste in the military, most not personnel, but there too. But my job was war. I did my job. I was one of only a few people to this day who can and did do my job. I'd say realistically in the last 15 years there might be a total of 30 people with my experience and I was the best among them in my time. So , if you're entirely against the military that's one thing. But I wasn't wasting money. In fact I too find it abhorrent to take tax payer money for nothing.

As soon as my time came to rotate to some American base with no deployments or anything, I just got out. I could have easily re-enlisted and been paid for 4 years to show up to an office doing nothing, like much of the federal government. I refused on principle. I kind of regret it now. Principle has never paid a single bill. Never kept a friend otherwise. Hasn't helped me in anyway except in online arguments where nobody believes me anyway.

Who paid for that BA? And your healthcare? And your monthly government check? All because you worked for 3 years, the rest of your life is covered. Even your fucking death is covered. How much more socialist can you get?

And this is the second person to call me a dipshit (guessing it's you again) while claiming the opposite of what I believe. I said I'm FOR Yang and FOR trying out UBI and I agree the military can act like UBI.

I even joked a few weeks ago that Johnny Cash and Bob Ross are proof UBI works, the Air Force had them standing around for years for free money and they used that free time to learn great skills.

im honestly sick and tired of hearing Communism - Socialism everytime anyone brings up Andrew Yangs UBI. To me, this means the average American is so fucking unbelievably fucking stupid and illiterate that we have absolutely no hope in ever electing anyone of worth to be POTUS. Theres no way a country filled with idiots this dense will ever EVER find the light at the end of the tunnel.

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Absolutely this. I did the math on this a while back and the $1K a month thing, to roughly 70% of the population, is 2/3 of the TOTAL 2018 federal budget. It's not just impossible, it's the most disingenuous campaign promise in history. He knows full well something that would never make it through congress and his plan is to just blame Republicans for you not getting 'your' money... Don't be fools, in the greediest way possible, "Elect me and I'll give you cash, bros! I swear!"...

Alright calm down soy boy, have some respect. If it's socialist to treat vets well then we could use a lot more socialism in this country
I'd love to see what would happen if we didn't have armed forces and we had to draft some millenials and zoomers, and what an absolute shitfest we'd be in without a standing volunteer army

Or maybe you just think that war is over and the world is peaceful now my sweet summer child

Monthly income man is meh

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Thank you for protecting my freedoms by blowing up a hospital in Pakistan

Then what the fuck are you arguing for?
Everyone to eat shit?
K. Enjoy your $15 an hour picking pixels at amazon till the robot picker replaces you. If you're lucky that experience in electronics will help you find a job fixing the robot that replaced you at your last job

1. I have student loans I'm still paying for. But I did get tax payer help. I did get military money. If you factor that in, maybe I got paid slightly more than minimum wage.

2. THERE IS NO MONTHLY GOVERNMENT CHECK

3. I was in for six years, which was the minimum for my job.

You clearly don't know enough about this subject to speak authoritatively.

My B.A. was in Political Science. A degree only good for destroying people like you in online discussions. I can assure you, I can get a whole lot more socialist, about the same distance from me to socialism is you to knowing a fucking thing about the military or its benefits and pay.

I get NOTHING from the military. My death isn't covered. No part of the rest of my life is covered. My healthcare isn't fucking covered. You don't know what the fuck you're arguing. You're a child yelling at an old man about what it means to age.

Amazon is fucking sweet.

He's "honorably discharged"
Even the government screws their employees. Whowouldathunk

I'm not arguing for anything at this point. I'm just replying to random dumbfuck comments asserting things I never said. Every time I read your stupid shit attacks I think 1. I'm with this guy's position 2. How the fuck is he so dumb no matter how I reply I'm somehow against him?

I don't WANT a shitty job at Amazon. I need fucking money to live. I'm entirely open to hear your wisdom. Getting really fucking tired of you contributing nothing but shitting on what I already agree is a shit scenario.