What do you think about combat PTSD?

What do you think about combat PTSD?

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I think it sucks and wish anyone with it the best.

My grandfather was in the battle of Iwo Jima and killed dozens of men. Never had a problem with fireworks because he wasn't a pussy.

Sounds like hell, but shouldn't stop anyone from joining. I'm sure something is in the works to take the edge off.

Doesn't exist, it's all in their heads and an excuse to leech more money off the govt.

It's probably real shitty cant imagine what that would be like

Yet every faggot teenager that claims it because "durr someone was mean to me" isn't?

Did I say that you fucking retard.

I had a girl call me creep at my campus and call security and I was asked to leave.
Shit gave me pretty bad PTSD tbh.

I think if I choose a job as a sewerage worker, I shouldn't get all sad when I smell like shit

i killed people, people were killed around me and by me.Sudden, primal death is nothing compared to death you may know from the dying bed.I remember that when we stationed near an shopping centre, there was a fairly young lad round 22 polo shirt gucci belt and (back then) brand new iphone 7.Problem is,he was high and agresive toward our unit,stating that we occupy his land-Did I mention that he was juiced big?Yeah we couldnt get the tasers to work through him.Shit got real when he grabbed officers pistol-I shot him practically point blank from 15 yards-didn't mean to hit the big veiny thing in the leg but well I did and no matter how much we tryied he couldnt stop bleeding.He kept saying in Bali ,,family" ,,Love" ,,money".It was kinda...sad.He was such a big man,looked like terminator and here he is just bleeding,sobbing and slowly awaint to drift away.It comes back at times when somebody cries,it really does.

Some of its real. Some of its pussies whining for attention and trying to mooch benefits. Incidence of both kinds has increased. The fake kind because psychologists profit more for being enablers and the real kind because way more soldiers are going into war with too much experience with pretend death and no experience with real death.

He was probably deaf from gunfire and explosions. They didnt wear ear plugs back then.

dea is toast lol

Its bad

Literally have no idea how people get it, i served in the 90s in the Greek volunteer guard in Kosovo in the Serbian side and i can say that the "war" was mainly routine patrols

kik "doesnt exist" good try kiddo i think this thread is 18+

now imagine if the routine patrol wasn't routine and got shot up with rockets and machine gun fire.

>kik

I think you meant kek, get it right you mongoloid boomer.

I miss the days when it was simply called Shellshock

none of you itt have been in combat. it's like asking school kids if they think diabeetus is real.

go back to your trap threads and let your daddies keep you safe from the bogeymen you pansies.

I usually turn off my console and remember it's all just a video game.
>that or git gud

you ever hear the story of the man where a golden turd fell into his lap and he and his aunty started to think they were gods

Says the guy who never saw combat. Try watching someone you've known ask you for help with everything below their belly button gone. Real life doesn't compare to your perverted porn and rekt thread you life cuck. Kill yourself sooner so your family can move on from your failure easier

Thats what they get for being a bunch of boot lickers. Fuck em.

>if they think diabeetus is real

I eat healthy and not a fat amerilard so yeah it's not real to me.

Why sign up for something you can't handle? You knew that would be a possibility and now you cry about it afterward.

fuck off trump fag

People don't 'sign up' to see people die, they choose to fight for their country.

Give a moron a gun and then don't expect to see people die. Are you trying to prove your stupidity or is it the "PTSD". lmao

>It's quite a problem for the Israeli Defense Force.

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>go to war
>expect people to not die
maybe PTSD is for stupid people?

Give your dumbass internet access and everyone can see your stupidity.

Are you telling me that soldiers may be exposed to death and killing?
How unexpected

But you sound like a larper though. Plenty of people experience combat without PTSD, some even found the experience enjoyable. Real PTSD isn't related to the amount or intensity of combat or require "dramatic moments" with friends dying. That's more the "expected narrative" of the people who are playing it.

How is killing insignificant Arabs fighting for your country?

>What do you think about combat PTSD?

It's fake. Soldiers should man up and not be pussies.

It sucks, I don't wish anyone it but blanket terms like PTSD as a whole make trauma topics awkward. There's always one little bitch equating nothing to something.

Says the faggot who can't handle his emotions because he saw a little blood in real life.

Nobody knows whether or not they can handle combat until they've experienced combat. At best training lets you prepare for expectations. Why do you think it was common practice up through modern times for commanders to rotate in green troops in non-critical combats for the purpose of bloodying them? It was to see how men in particular units responded in real combat situations and judge their reliability under fire. Every combat infantryman can probably give you an anecdote about the "gung-ho" guy that freezes and the quiet guy that surprised everyone with heroics.

Way to make up info. Plenty of people are deployed to combat zones and don't see combat, they come home without PTSD. It's very hard to find a vet that was in actual combat that doesn't have some degree of PTSD, real combat not someone taking potshots at their convoy.
Here's some actual info, educate yourself before you make an ass of yourself in the future. www.helpguide.org/articles/ptsd-trauma/ptsd-in-military-veterans.htm

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Says the pussy keyboard warrior. kek

it's legit

Pot works. Well.

Perfect example of the psychologists acting as enablers. Everybody whose ever been in a firefight has PTSD, say you have it and you might get a disability check.

Great grandfather, grandfather, 2 great uncles, 3 uncles, father, myself, and 2 friends all have experienced combat at the up close and personal level and no one had PTSD. Both my grandfather and myself have had to have pieces of someone they knew picked out of our bodies. Maybe the older generation could handle it better because they hunted instead of playing Call of Duty

And if you believe this user, I have some Sup Forums stock to sell you. I've never met a soldier/sailor/marine/air man that doesn't know for a fact PTSD is real. At this point, it's the same as the flat earthers just pretending facts aren't real.
There'll always be people trying to scam in everything. My last tour I had some shitbag come into the clinic because her cevlar fell on her head and she wanted it documented so she could try to make a claim when she got back stateside.
An hero and stop larping, user.

You are full of shit, you have never seen combat never been in a firefight. Anyone who has seen combat doesn't talk about in the way you did. Post Traumatic Stress is real, some can handle it well some can not and need help.

It's because those guys actually were fighting for a purpose
Soldiers today know that every death they see or cause was pointless. They kill because they are told to, and they aren't allowed to ask why
Deep down they all know it. Everything they've seen, everything they've done, it was entirely pointless and achieved nothing

Learn how to follow a thread if you're going to jump into a discussion. Never said PTSD isn't real. But just as everybody on /b claims to have autism claiming you must have PTSD just because you've been in a firefight is equal bullshit caused by psychologists pushing it. Its the same crap in schools where some kid kills himself in a car accident and the school has to have an assembly and psychologists on hand so students can address their feelings. For every person with real PTSD there anther 10 who are milking it for the sake of our culture of victimhood.

Had to read that a few times. That's a lot of stupid packed into one paragraph. I'm surprised you didn't say some garbage about "blood for oil" or some other protester chant.

if our culture wasn't so cucked we wouldn't have any problems with it

fake and gay

i signed up so i could kill people, they figured out in training and kicked me out
one less arab in the world makes a better world for everyone

its been around for a long shit time.
even before vietnam.
shellshock was one of the several names given to this particular disorder

Not ideal to be experienced, but those people opted into that situation so at the end of the day I think those people are idiots.

I think that shit is blown out of proportion and alot of people can get it. Not just combat veterans.

it sucks

Seriously retarded. If you served like you claimed then you'd know the stigma of admitting you needed mental help. Took me several years before I actually admitted, even to myself, that I needed help. When you ETS, they would say that if you wanted to start a claim it'd delay your speration. They did shit like that to discourage people from claiming.
Fuck off, pretender.

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Jake?

There was a lot of pointlessness in wars of the past as well. Pointe du Hoc is a great example. But now that you bring up distinctions between wars I will agree that combat was more clearly defined in the past in the sense that the enemy was more clearly identifiable in the world wars and Korea. It makes sense that soldiers in asymmetrical warfare might suffer from it more

Ptsd in general is something that should be reserved for the most vile beings not the poor souls that have to drudge through it. The ones who suffer with it know there's someone here rooting for easy peace for you my brothers.

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Then you should know that inside and outside are two different worlds. Of course on the inside you don't want to say shit. especially if you're career. On the outside their isn't a psychologist in the world that isn't going to immediately jump on PTSD at the mere mention of being in a combat zone. From your own example was it really an admission of needing help or other people convincing you of needing help?

You're supposed to be traumatized. Someone who decides to be a tool for a military willing chooses to do terrible things when commanded to by terrible people. What did they expect?

You may not like it, but it's true
Don't know what oils got to do with anything though.

That's true, but it's not exactly fighting for your country though

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you are an asshole even by 4 chan standards. Quick question Trump, great president, the greatest president,

Why the fuck would someone civilian side be seeing a psychiatrist if nothings wrong in the first place? On top of that, I had to prove I was actually in combat, CIB wasn't enough. Actually getting the VA to admit I had service related PTSD was like pulling teeth. Took almost two years.
What the actual fuck are you talking about. The docs are more than happy to throw drugs at you if you're having mental issues and leave it at that. They don't care if you get a disability rating.
I got help because I pushed everyone in my life away and was living in the bottom of a bottle just so I could actually sleep. No one around me to even say PTSD, just night shift and that's it.

That's funny, I'm not the one starting every post with accusations of being a lying retard. But the irrelevant politics question is showing through your fake indignation.

you have validated my suspicion. You have never been in combat, you have never even served in the military. You are a Trump Chump.

I was saying you're full of shit too. I'm sure it's more than just two of us saying you're lying.

Much like "depression" it's a made up condition to get out of work and get more handouts.

>>Took me several years before I actually admitted, even to myself, that I needed help

So for 2 years according to you there was nothing wrong. I think you explained right there

>>Why the fuck would someone civilian side be seeing a psychiatrist if nothings wrong in the first place

So you've personally had issues. Why does that automatically translate that everybody who hasn't had issues must be a liar? Why does that automatically translate into everyone whose seen combat must have PTSD?

Have fun living without vaccines on your flat Earth.

I think the whole Trump Chump thing is a more sure indicator of whose really playing the poser.

Yup, I didn't get treatment for cancer so no way I can have cancer.
As I said before, a very small amount of people don't get PTSD, as another user said some can manage their PTSD without help.
Nice trying to cherry picking but make sure you read it properly first.

Didn't say a thing about trump. But nice deflecting.

No he's right in a sense. While some increases in mental illness can be attributed to better diagnostics, the greater percentage of this increase can be attributed to psychologists expanding categories to the point of meaninglessness for the sake of profits associated with dealing with mental illness along with social value instead of stigma coming from claims of mental illness

It only became apparent that it existed in WW1 in the trenches. A handful of cases in WW2 and resurged again in Vietnam. That's only for sustained combat. Nowadays troops hear a few gunshots 500 meters away in the bushes and spray 100 rounds, then claim PTSD. Even liberals claim being yelled at or being punched can give you PTSD.

user i'm the guy who posted some can handle PTS some can not. Those that can not are then diagnosed with PTSD . Takeaway all combat vets have post traumatic stress, those that need help then become vets with post traumatic stress disorder. Anyone who has been in combat has at one time or another had that " blank thousand mile stare" Again some adapt and cope, some can not

But that has been going on for lots of years. ADD was the first that comes to mind. They just threw ritilin at kids but that doesn't mean that ADD isn't real. Same for depression and PTSD, morons claim to have it on social media the same way people say they have OCD. That doesn't make it any less real of an issue, with actual people suffering from it.

>sub-100 level grammar and typing.

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One surprising thing I’ve heard that I hadn’t considered before was some current soldiers, when they talked to WWII vets, said the WWII vets were in awe of THEM. Back in the day you spend like 30 days “on the line” of which generally only a couple involved combat, then would rotate to rear areas for recovery. In the Middle East, dudes would just walk patrols every single day until they got shot at, sometimes multiple firefight a day and do that for a year straight. When considering things from that perspective, an increase in diagnosed PTSD isn’t at all surprising.

Troops these days are just fags.

Everyone!! Stop what you're doing and look at how hard this grammar HERO just owned someone!! It's important to recognize their important contrabution because how else would we know what the other user was trying to say?
Fuck off, grammar nazi

Well I’m not sure that sexual orientation has much to do with combat experience, but historically there’s no indicators that a significantly higher proportion of men are homosexual now than at any other time so I doubt it.

>grammar nazi
It's not just grammar. That fucker is so goddamn incoherent you have to read it multiple times to even understand his chimp-level intelligence.

Look at the commander in chief getting assfucked by every world leader. Are you shocked?

Took one read through to get it. He was responding to my comment and wasn't very hard to understand. Maybe your reading comprehension is too low.

Chimps just understand chimps.

No that guy called you out for what you are, a lier, You are triggered because he obviously knows you're full of shit,

CUT IT OUT! Before everyone in here gets PTSD

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Whatever you have to tell yourself, user.

But to use your analogy, everyone has cancer. And you should talk about reading properly.

>>It's very hard to find a vet that was in actual combat that doesn't have some degree of PTSD, real combat not someone taking potshots

Your arguing that everyone almost everyone has PTSD. Now from your posts I would say part of the motivation for this argument stems from you having viewed PTSD as stigmatizing which it shouldn't be

My argument is that most guys who've seen "real" combat don't suffer from real PTSD even if they claim to have PTSD. Some PTSD is pushed on them by psychologists and some make the claim for social or monetary gain. In addition, there are people who've never been near combat who claim PTSD. Again there are legitimate cases and others less legitimate.

Even by sources that are sympathetic to the view of PTSD have top estimates around 30% in Vietnam and post conflicts

verywellmind.com/rates-of-ptsd-in-veterans-2797430
health.usnews.com/conditions/mental-health/ptsd/articles/ptsd-veterans-statistics .

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