Poignant anti-war film about psychological trauma gets turned into a generic action movie franchise

>poignant anti-war film about psychological trauma gets turned into a generic action movie franchise

How did this happen?

money, duh

how did Rocky become about the boxing?
the movies became popular and the sequels focused on the easy aspects of the original

Stallone should have had more integrity.

Im a homeless vet. When i describe what i do as a "rambo type thing" they immediately think I'm nuts or an assassin. I had to stop using the comparison.

No, morons. I am trying to find my old buddies and i don't use jewbook. I have army and county public records.

Ronald Reagan

Where are you staying now?

First Blood and Rocky 1 are boring movies that try to be poignant and artistic but fail. The sequels just try to be entertaining and succeed. Give me Rocky 3 any day.

t. reddit

>this bait will get replies

I am currently posting on my phone. And will sleep tonight in my truck in a southeastern large city.

>Rocky 3
>not Cold War-kino IV
do you even Rocky?

What are you hoping to do about permanent accommodation?

Why did you leave the military?

My credit is ok i suppose i could lease an apartment anytime. And most big cities have boarding house type rooms for rent i have stayed in those when i get tired of camping or truck sleeping.

I'm not all that worried about it, bro.

I got blown up one too many times. It wrecked my hip. I just didn't have the will to come back from it.

I try to hike and ruck when i can. But i can never imagine running a 13 minute 2 mile again, running hurts like a sonofabitch. That and the culture was changing. So i took my retirement and my disability and made like a tree and fucked off.

I was surprised when i rewatched rocky 1 after a while about how it wasn't the mindless action flick i thought it would be. Stallone still can't act though.

Stallone is good in First Blood.

How would you have done Rocky II?

You're so smart.

Off yourself already please. We don't need anymore of you parasites leeching tax dollars through the VA and asking for countless other forms of charity on top of it. Thanks for your service but you're no longer needed

Why make another poignant anti-war film about psychological trauma? Several movies about that had been made already.

Did you mean First Blood part 2? Neither Rocky nor First Blood should've had sequels.

There's not much acting he can do in that movie right untill the end where he's delivering that speech. But then he spoke a different language and i couldn't understand him.

>How did this happen?
People forgot it's based on a book.

Stallone wrote the scenarios for all the film from the rocky franchise excluding the last one and always stated that those movies were an accurate depiction of how he wanted the story to be portrayed. Money only allowed for more spectacular shots/scenes/fights which didn't at all affect the quality of the movies, and same goes for Rambo.

I am not asking for charity. I earned my retirement and i earned my va benifits.

What the fuck have you done for this country? I hope you die alone.

Hope you find them, bro

that's funny. most people see them as 2 great movies ruined by their sequels

That monologue being semi-incoherent works to its favour. People are incoherent when they're having breakdowns.

Let's see your tax information. I doubt you contribute anything at all to taxes besides sales tax.

Why bastardise the character at all?

>First Blood
>Platoon
>The Deer Hunter
Why is Vietnam War the best war for kinos?

welfare queens detected

Rambo is a bad guy in the book and he dies

The US was pissed at Viet fucking shits for fighting dirty and being unable to nuke their asses like we did with the Japs. People didn't want a somber story about how the war affected a generation of young men and how society kicked them to the curb. They want vindication of Vietnam; remember how in Part 2, Rambo asks if we can win this time? That's what Reagan USA wanted; killing Commie gooks to avenge earlier humiliation.

Speaking of the book, I met David Morrell recently,he signed a copy I'm first Blood that I owned. He was an all around cool dude. Gave solid writing advice, and spoke about some of the conflicts that arose novelizing the sequels.

You forgot one.
Full Metal Jacket.

He has contributed more by not wasting tax dollars being a homicidal puppet for the elite desu

Even more by not being a "veteran" and leeching off the taxpayer for life.

Stallone helped write every Rambo movie.

Tfw watching this on tv right now and they have cliffhanger playing straight after get hype

>Forgetting Apocalypse Now
Other than that I've been on a vietnam war kino marathon lately and I'd love to know too.

Cameron wrote the best one

It's even crazier when you get into the books. Rambo dies at the end, then the movie was a hit so the guy writes 2 and 3 like nothing happened.

Don't even reply to people like this. Thanks for your service. Some people have a very misguided view of what military service actually involves.

Didn't know this.

Stallone's ego. By refusing to allow the original ending where the old army guy kills the younger army guy John Wayne dropped out and it went from kino to propaganda flick. i blame the success of Rocky.

Dumb phoneposter

sure thing welfare queen.
nobody sucks up budgetary resources like the welfare queens in the army. you guys should try earning a buck for once.. youre worse than a black housewife.

>anti-war

thank you for your service to israel

First Blood is anti war you spaz.

>dont use jewbook
stop being faggot and sign up, you will find your friends in 2 minutes.

>t. cia

>anti-war films
Fuck this bullshit, any pro-war films?

>cia cares about a nobody homeless vet
you are nobody, you arent important, literally no one cares about you, thats why you are homeless

>t.literally worth less then a homeless vet

Vietnam was more cynical than WW2

Vietnam didn't end with the realization that Nazis killed millions of people like cattle, people weren't paranoid that their neighbors were secretly communists, and people had gotten used to the possibility that an atomic weapon could end all life on the planet at a moment's notice.

Vietnam was a "NO JOHN, YOU ARE THE DEMONS" type ending though. Demoralized an entire country.

I think he legitimately missed the point

Morrell put a lot of effort in the novelizations. He did hand wave Rambo's death, but he also made it his own thing. He worked with decent scripts(one by James Cameron ) making it more than hack work. He even got criticized for making Rambo crazy, which he is, but that almost didn't fly with executives. Morrell gave them an ultimatum to let him do what he does best.

Thanks for your service, buddy. Sorry to hear our system has failed you so that you're homeless :(

>retirement

You were in 20 years?

Same story amigo. Curious, what was your unit/post and MOS.

There is medical retirement, aka, your dick is too broken to hump it.

What I got.

It's not always the system, and he was decent enough to admit it. He said himself that he had opportunities to sleep in a real room with a real bed but didn't, because reasons.

The only way to prevent this kind of shit from happening is to not go to war in the first place. It fucks people up beyond what modern medicine can ever fix. You want to help a veteran? Don't vote warmongering fucks into office. War is hell and that will never, ever change.

The system did not fail me. I get about 2k a month and renting a room in most cities is 4-500. I just have no need to rent a room i prefer to travel. I have a truck and a tent.

I was in 16 years i took a partial retirement and i get disability from ieds and training accidents. Hopefully i can get a federal job to get my last 4 years soon.

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I was a 12b. Sappers lead the way. I had lots of posts almost always sapper units.

If you haven't served in the military or don't have conscription like in Russia or Singapore you can't consider yourself a man.

This is the reason why there are so many fucking useless NEETs in America. Put them in the military and whip them up to shape.

fucking useless faggots

19D, here.

The thing I hated worse in the world was escorting you fuck at 5mph, while you assholes did RC. My experience was you guys were the only ones (beside EOD), with MRAPs. While we still had to pull escort duty in 1114s.

I ain't pissed at you, or at CEs. Just bitching.

Tons of respect to you assholes.

Good puppet. 10 shekels have been deposited in your account.

I never once got escorted by a ground unit especially not a tanker. Although we had a few get stuck behind us. We rolled out with more gunships than an infantry batallion.

I am very proud of my record and beleive i saved many lives from the ieds i found. And hey, theres always something to bitch about when the army is involved.

Rocky was always about the boxing, what are you on about. It's not like Rocky had a heavy anti-boxing message in the same level as Rambo's heavy anti-war message.

You have shown yourself for a fraud.

You probably escorted some nasty girls. We rolled out with 6 rg31s and a gunned buffalo. And our last deployment we even had a husky with a gun.

We rolled with apache and little bird escorts on some missions but we never once went with a ground escort. We probably had more guns than you. We packed a mark19 until obama outlawed them. And a 240 beside it.

Because the book was a shitty anti-veteren garbage, movie wasn't just generic action as well.

Because, much like the war itself, America didn't want to think about it.

The book was neutral as fuck, and wasn't very political. Really it's just about a son butting heads with husband father.

>brilliant film about a lovable loser underdog who buckles down and nearly pulls it off gets turned into a generic evil opponent, iron-skull boxing movie franchise

How did this happen?