Was he really that good or is he just rated highly because he's the Best White Player?

Was he really that good or is he just rated highly because he's the Best White Player?

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He was an above average white athlete in Boston which ascends you to god status.

He deserves all his praise

An overrated white legend would be Jerry West

His Basketball IQ was the best, great passer, great shooter, not to mention that he could be much better had he went to NBA early (this retard started when he was 23 years old) and didn't broke his back.

GOAT front office man though

he's underrated

He's legit. He won 3 straight MVPs in the best era in NBA history and people were starting to think he was the GOAT before he got hurt/jordan got big

stockton & pete are better

1 Jordan
2 Lebron
3 Bird

Without a doubt

pistol maybe, again had he stayed healthy. disagree on stockton

LOLBRON #2

Pete (age 23-29): 25/4.6/5.6/1.4/0.3 on 44.2% shooting

Bird (age 23-29): 23.9/10.5/5.9/1.8/0.8 on 49.6% shooting

Bird will tell you himself he wasn't ready for Indiana under Bob Knight. He was real insecure about not fitting in. He even had a daughter out of wedlock he didn't want to meet. Bird could have easily not played basketball at the college level if not for Indiana State.

He was one of the smartest players the game has ever had.

He was really that good.

Some user wanna post some vids, educate the fetus?

EDUCATE YOSELF:

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He would have been less famous if he had been black. That being said, he was an amazing player.

Dude, if he was black and did that much shit-talking, he'd have been called a thug and drummed out of the league.

Well, that's because NBA is overwhelmed by black players, dudes like Tim Duncan can be overlooked eventhough being the best in his position. So yeah thats make sense.

he's literally the best player in NBA history and he did it without the benefit of extra leg muscles

Duncan is a nice guy. Bird talked trash that would make opposing players' hair turn white.

He was really, really, really fucking good. probably somewhere between Lebron and Durant.

His numbers and accolades speak for themselves. They would be considered all time great if he were black, white, orange, any color.

Greatest court awareness of any player ever

his left fucking hand

Bird was one of the most skilled athletes the NBA has ever seen. He's kind of in the range of Olajuwon where they not only were amazing basketball players but were retardedly smart ones and it's hard to plan against these guys. Jerry West and Rick Barry were trash compared to Bird as white players go.

>above average

he was from bumfuck and took indiana state to an undefeated season and the championship game

Nope, he was genuinely amazing but the NBA was a lot more competitive then and the Lakers were totally stacked, not to take away from all talent/hall of famers Boston had. I find it hilarious when people rate certain modern-era NBA players over him.

And he was insulted when teams sent a white guy to cover him.

Can we be honest that he's really not that big of a deal. It's not because he's white. It's like he was basically just one of the better Atari players of his time in the 70's and 80's

He would suck in this nextgen era of PS4 and PC gaming. The basketball landscape is so much more competitive now. Larry Bird wouldn't even be recruited in today's game

lol go play videogames don't post here

>A great person wouldn't be great in another era
This applies to 99% of people no matter the field you fuckgoof

Legend.

He's rated lower than he should be because he is white.

He was that good. Right up there with the best all time and the other guys there agree he belongs. This kinda makes me want to watch the Magic and Larry documentary again.

never post again.

Bird would be much better today

Most people have him as a top-10 player of all time

how high do you think he *should* be rated

3

which 2 of Wilt, Kareem, Lebron, and MJ is he better than

>only guy to win FMVP on the losing team
>career averages of 27, 7, and 6 and 2.6 stls
You're fucking retarded

But yeah if anything Larry is underappreciated

I once read an article about Bird and there was one specific game where he said to a guy "bro I'm dropping 60 on you tonignt" and the absolute madman scored like 63 points. Legend.

Kareem, Lebron, and Wilt. His game was predicated on skill, bb iq, and mental fortitude, which are all timeless. And though he might not be better than Jordan in total, Larry ate his fucking lunch whenever they played.

Competitors like that are fucking nuts. I remember a story about Kobe doing something similar.
He scored 62 in three quarters against the Mavericks and when he came out an assistant said "you could have 80 if you stay in" and he replied "I'll get it later" or something of the sort. Dude had 81 a month later

Larry Bird would BARELY be able to get off a shot in today's game. He's a specialist off the bench, at best in 2018. He's not even JJ Redick or Kyle Korver

do any of you even basketball?

Even as a laker fan I'll fucking fite u

>John Stockton would BARELY be able to pass the ball in today's game
That's basically what you just said.

nah, It's not the same. John Stockton's game would translate to today's NBA way better than Larry Birds game.
I concede that I went too far with Kyle Korver. I can admit that Larry Bird would be better than Kyle Korver

my sincere apologies to all the nostalgia fags

why even compare
literally is comparing big swinging dicks
to roasty vaginas
modern game is the pussified roasty
sloppy and yeasty smelly vagina
fishy as fuck but betas jump on it and worship it like theres no tomorrow

old game was uber homo erotic
big swanging over masculine full bush hour pounding veiny dick
that good dick women turn to niagra falls for
something other men cant do anything other but stop and admire like a work of art

>if it's from the 80's it's bad
Did you not see the part of the video where he drained a 3 in double-coverage?

This might be the most cancerous thing I've ever read

The greateat basketballers of all time are to be found in Space Jam, Larry Bird is among them.

The greatest basketballers of all time are to be found in Space Jam, Larry Bird is among them.

he's right though

>Lecuck
>top 100
Lol

There was a 30 for 30 on The Lakers and Celtics: The Best of Enemies where with Ice Cube narrating The Lakers parts and a White guy narrating The Celtics parts it was basically a race war. Then they had The Atlanta Hawks thrown in who were basically gangsters to make The Lakers not look so bad.

I forgot to add, one of the points they brought up in the documentary is: The Celtics were the last great team to use teamwork.

I just found it online if you want to watch it: mrworldpremiere.tv/?p=5765#sthash.7F8P2O9W.dpbs

This.

>The Celtics were the last great team to use teamwork.
Dude. The Warriors are doing it RIGHT NOW. Why the fuck you think people hate them.

It's a totally different era. The Warriors just do it more than other present teams.

>more WS/48 than Kobe
>higher PPG than Kobe *w/o 3-point
>higher APG than Kobe
>higher RPG than Kobe
>higher shooting % than Kobe
Daily reminder that Jerry was the best SG in Lakers history.

>double-coverage
wrong sport, burger

he deserves the praise, was one of the two best BB players in the world from 1979-1984, and one of 3 best BB players in the world from 1984-1990

Won three straight MVP awards, and was 2nd or better for 6 straight years, averaged a double double (26/10), including the last 3 seasons of his career where he was crippled by a bad back; for a dude who couldn't jump or run he was an outrageously great player. Easily one of the most clutch players in NBA history with a deadly outside, post, and passing game.

just awful

Has to be bait right?

Reminder that Sup Forumsirgins routinely make Sup Forumstards look smart.

there was a thread the other week where most posters would pick him over LeBron lmao

so the answer is yes

Yep, much like Ted Williams or Bobby Orr.

Properly rated. I think youre going too far saying he's in the top 3 but should be in the top 10 if you're not a retard and only rating people relative to their era. His prime years weren't long enough to put him in the Mt. Rushmore of basketball category for me though

Name 5 people who are top 10 who were playing before 85.

bird would make the soft ass niggas in the nba today cry

If anything he’s actually underrated because he’s white. He was a little bit better than Magic, yet you hear analysts talking like Magic’s top 3 all time while Larry’s top 10 but not top 5.

wilt, kareem, russel, magic, oscar robinson

There isnt did you misunderstand what I wrote?
Chamberlain
Alcindor
Johnson

Your comment means you are too biased towards recent years. that's why i asked.

Dirk is the best white player ever

A big guy who could shoot, pass, run and was a decent rebounder wouldn't translate to today's game?

Bird's style would do well enough in this era.

Difference between the 80s/90s is much smaller than the difference between the 60s and 80s.

Bird would do fine

I mean he said it was disrespectful to put a white player to guard him.

retard

lol

John Stockton's pick and roll wouldn't work as well as Larry's elite 3 pt shooting in this era.

The warriors as a team are shooting 50/40/80
That’s fucking insane, people get caught up in hating them but they’re legit an all around great team top to bottom.

7th greatest player of all time

Bellow MJ, LBJ, KAJ, Magic, Wilt and Bill

Above Kobe, Shaq, Duncan

Indiana produces the best whites, what else is new?

Imagine Bird on the GSW

He was that good and his game would work today.

He's Dirk that could rebound and pass. He's Drayboon who could score.

That's an odd way to spell "pushed endlessly as hip and cool, given a trillion dollar shoe conract, and then had the rules changed for him so that he could score 40 points a game and nobody is allowed to play defense on him and he can't lose". Yes, that's what would have happened if he was a black shit talker.

just how small do you have to be mentally to assume that Larry fucking legend Bird would do more than well in todays league? Like seriously I don't get it nigguhs

One of the best passers of all time.

Long rant from an oldfag that watched 80s basketball. 1/2.

So good I will never understand why people think Magic is better than him. Not saying Magic isn't great, but Bird was better overall. Magic just had the better team, so got more rings, similar to Wilt/Russell. Bird came in and was pretty much the man straight away. Magic wasn't even the best player on his team for half his career. Sure, Bird had all star help, but no GOAT/MVP prime players. Magic had fricking Kareem.

Bird was a better scorer and shooter. I don't think people realise just how good. A shooter of his level just didn't exist until then. Sure, Rick Barry surprised everyone by shooting around 90 from the free throw line with his granny style and Maravich managed to hit some outside shots, but Bird was the first player to do the 50/40/90 thing. And he's one of the only 2 players who have done it more than once.

Bird wasn't very athletic. But Magic wasn't exactly a high flyer either. The thing is, Bird wasn't as bad as people say. Watch some of his early highlights before he started to get old and injured. He could posterize some people and do reverses and got up enough just fine. People just assumed every forward had to be Julius Erving levels to be a top player then.

He was tough and even kinda dirty at times. He had a strong upper body and was happy to play physical. Great at hustle plays, couldn't push him around easily and a solid rebounder.

People seem to forget, Bird pre-injury made the all defensive 2nd team 3x. He was strong enough to guard players and smart enough to interrupt plays with his high BB iq. Even that Jordan highlight of him dribbling around on Bird was more to his credit. Jordan ended up pulling up for a shot instead because Bird at least managed to make him do that, which is a lot more than even most guards managed on 80s Jordan. Magic was one of the worst defenders of his era.

2/2.

Magic was a better all around passer, but Bird wasn't that far behind. In terms of touch passes, I don't think there's ever been anyone better. And is up there when it comes to fakes and was the Kevin Love of outlet passes of his time. He wasn't a point guard, so didn't have the ball in his hands as much so his assists numbers are bound to be lower. I always felt Magic's were kind of inflated. Sure, his highlights are amazing, but a lot of his assists were just him dribbling up, easily passing inside over a manlet point guard and watching Goatreem put in the most unstoppable shot in NBA history. Not that hard.

Bird was from beginning to end known as one of the clutchest players in history. Magic was later on, but it always confuses me how people constantly bring up something like Lebron's chokejob in 2011 and just seem to forget that Magic early in his career had the nickname "Tragic Johnson" for awhile because he had a few bad chokejobs.

All reports are that Bird's teammates and staff loved playing with him. Magic was loved later, but early on? Some players have said they thought he was full of himself early on, got annoyed by him and he even got his original coach fired.

One of the best overall players ever. Could score, one of the best shooters ever, good rebounder, underrated and amazing passer, tough both physically and mentally, could actually defend in his prime, good leader, very high bb iq and insanely clutch. How many other players can you say the same about?

Bird was closest to injury prone Lebron with more of a midrange game

Larry Johnson is black and gay. That pushes him above Bird

>could actually defend in his prime
Like Lonzo Ball, not a flashy passing lane monster like CP3 but a very good all around defence that just works.

lol @ me comparing Lonzo "the GOAT" to Larry "white boi" Birb

best post right now on this board

>GOAT shooter, work ethic, leader, top 10 in the post, top 5 passer, most skilled all around player ever wouldn't translate
How did you come to this conclusion, friendo?

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He is just one of very few players that you won't find that much of a difference between watching his full games and just his highlights.