The Saudi Ministry of Defense funneled money through a shadow company named "Erean" to a Saudi agent named Al-Bayoumi. The Saudi agent was the suicide pilot handler. His primary mission was to secure housing and training for suicide missions in the United States.
The FBI failed in its mission to protect the United States because prior to the attacks on Sept 11, 2001 there were no open investigations in to Saudi terrorist ties.
It's all there folks. Read it and weep. The United Stated invaded Iraq all the while the FBI was figuring out that the Saudis actually did it.
>b-but I'll end up on a government list if I download that!
You're already on a government list for being on Sup Forums.
Sup Forums has shared log access with the Feds for YEARS.
Adam Wilson
Bump.
Jace Davis
autism check 1 2 3
nobody is going to read all that shit
the 3 page summary explains it all
this is what they didnt want the public to know
Hudson Morgan
bump
James Watson
Everything the OP said is true. However, keep in mind that nothing OP said is true and the papers clearly mark everything as "alleged," "may," speculation and rumour. Because that's what they were. Since then, the rumours have not been confirmed. But you can still believe them based on shoddy justifications!
We didn't invade Iraq because 9/11. We invaded Afghanistan because of 9/11 because that's where we believed Osama (a Saudi) was hiding out with the Taliban. Then we were like fuck it, it's a 'War on Terror.'
Caleb Carter
Shut the fuck up faggot.
Go shill else where.
Robert Hill
read the notes and give it a bump
Noah Robinson
The file format doesn't matter. The content does. I don't give two shits about what it is presented in, as long as I can read it.
Dominic Wright
>people unironically think they're safe from government watch because they can hide behind a Gibraltar proxy Reminder that this user is right and Hiroshimoot is an even bigger sell out to the government than Moot was, He did the same shit on dubschan
Tyler Edwards
So, we know Osama is/was a cia asset, he is a Saudi national with ties to the royal family.
Who benefits from the attack?
The obvious is the owner of the buildings, who by (coincidence) was late to work and who (also coincidentally) bought a huge terrorist insurance policy on the towers.
The not so obvious? Surveillance, wars with the wrong countries, destabilization of oil producing nations that compete with Saudi Arabia, protection of the petrodollar etc.
Anyone?
Nolan Wood
>However, keep in mind that nothing OP said is true and the papers clearly mark everything as "alleged," "may," speculation and rumour. Because that's what they were. Since then, the rumours have not been confirmed. But you can still believe them based on shoddy justifications!
So...you effectively just said the gov just released a propaganda piece.
Xavier Nguyen
don't respond to inflammatory remarks
simply read the documents and see for yourself
Adam Cruz
The part that tickles me is these people think their proxies will protect them when they're on Sup Forums, but not when they download that PDF.
Logan Hall
this and pic related FBI cable
Aiden Powell
if you are reading the documents give the thread a bump
Brandon Kelly
>We didn't invade Iraq because 9/11. We invaded Afghanistan because of 9/11 because that's where we believed Osama (a Saudi) was hiding out with the Taliban. Then we were like fuck it, it's a 'War on Terror.' Not entirely true. We invaded Iraq because:
1. WMD which were not found, but useful as a pretext 2. Initial claim that they had ties to AQ, which made (1) look scary, and 3. let's not talk about all that oil, that was later "guaranteed fair access" for companies...
Jose Sanders
Yes. Congress releases a selection of censored papers. You think it actually says anything damning? It doesn't. Just paranoid schizophrenics who see a few words in a sentence together and hallucinate further meaning think this confirms anything. A judge trained to assess information objectively will read this and correctly ask "yes, what does this prove?"
Jayden Moore
confusing two concepts there
Let's get back to discussion over the supposed value of the documents, and see how it fits in with that is known, unknown, partially verified, fully verified, and known to be false.
Jace Wood
Here is the kicker:
Immediately after the attack, who was publically implicated? Afghanistan, obviously. And Saudi Arabia. Afghanistan doesn't compete with Saudi oil.
Why did Saudi Arabia think this attack would make the US attack Iraq?
Either they didn't know that, or they knew that Bush would attack Iraq even though they weren't implicated in any way.
Of course we know that Bush and the Saudis are close, so that second possibility seems like the obvious answer.
Leo Powell
Fantastic. Now, if you are taking the position that it is propaganda, observe the response from the Saudis. What are they doing in response? What is the response? Is it expected? Unexpected? Business as usual?
Lincoln Parker
So a Saudi-Israeli joint strike on the US?
Kevin Howard
Since idiots in the last thread were asking for a TL;DR, I will paste some of the more interesting bits. I am not done reading it myself though.
"Omar al-Bayomumi. The FBI has received numerous reports from individuals in the Muslim community, dating back to 1999, alleging that al-Bayoumi may be a Saudi intelligence officer. FBI files sugest that al-Bayoumi provided substantial assistance to the hijackers Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi after they arrived in San Diego in February 2000. Al-Bayoumi met the hijackers at a public place shortly after his meeting with an individual at the Saudi consulate and there are indications in the files that his encounter with the hijackers may not have been accidental. During this same timeframe, al-Basyoumi had extensive contact with Saudi Government establishments in the United States and received financial support from a Saudi company affiliated with the Saudi Ministry of Defense."
Connor Peterson
So the Saudis paid crazies, more right than they are to fuck off and leave their country so they won't attack the rolling family for not being right wing enough?
Such sock. All this tells me is they were being investigated simply do to being ore allies.
The real issue is not releasing the information
Jordan Reyes
No. Isreal would never work directly with them as it undermines some of their goals - namely the removal of islamic states surrounding them. But they would certainly use a go-between....I wonder who would be chummy with the Saudis, and have good strong connections?
Nathaniel Thomas
That's the summary version of events. You must read more
Gavin Wilson
"According to FBI files,[REDACTED] at the company said that al-Bayoumi received a monthly salary even though he had been there on only one occasion. This support increased substantially in April 2000, two months after the hijackers arrived in San Diego, decreased slightly in December 2000, and stayed at the same level until August 2001. That company reportedly had ties to Usama Bin Ladin and al-Qa'ida. In addition, the FBI determined that al-Bayoumi was in contact with several individuals under FBI investigation and with the Holy Land Foundation which has been under investigation as a fundraising front for Hamas;"
Lucas Jones
Also so Chaney could set up the global spy network and move toward a one world government under an authoritarian US.
Ayden Bennett
Reading now. A lot of happenings right now, should try again later OP.
Lucas Russell
Right, it seems specious
Angel Ross
I know, I am only on page 18/34 myself. but even when OP gave the link and posted pics of the pages, people were still asking for a TL;DR. Do people really have that little time that they can't spend reading something like this? "According to an FBI agent in Phoenix, the FBI suspects Mohammed al-Qudhaeein of being [------REDACTED----]. Al-Qudhaeein was involved in a 1999 incident aboard an America West flight, which the FBI's Phoenix office now suspects may have been a "dry run" to test airline security. During the flight, al-Qudhaeein and his associate asked the flight attendants a variety of suspicious questions; al-Qudhaeein then attempted to enter the cockpit on two occasions. Al-Qudhaeein and his associate were flying to Washington, D.C. to attend a party at the Saudi Embassy, and both claimed that their tickets were paid for by the Saudi Embassy. During the course of its investigation, the FBI has discovered that both al-Qudhaeein and the other individual involved in this incident had connections to terrorism."
Bentley Wood
Well you might be trying to apply a very specific and narrow definition of propaganda that I don't hold, so don't confuse yourself by drawing so many conclusions from premises using definitions you've made up for me. That being said, what about the Saudi response are you specifically referring to? Because I see nothing out of the ordinary.
Elijah Walker
yes, with the compliance of the US to 1. destabilize ME 2. save the dollar 3. protect israel 4. and ensure the oil supply
Samuel Gonzalez
There are a lot of bullshit happenings where details are still emerging. Most threads are just trolling, shitposting and faking details. This is the 15 year old puzzle piece that the corrupt federal government thought was too dangerous to declassify. It's every Americans duty to focus on our problems and this is the largest outstanding problem that exists in our country. It's bigger than ISIS in many ways because we can see that the Saudis are not above terrorism.
The "happenings" are not happenings. They are yesterday's news, and news is recorded for posterity, so why bother watching? Watching "happenings" that aren't local to you usually translate to the same information level as watching sports: you can glean some insight but it typically has little to no impact on you directly. Why not read the document and do some research, instead of watching the news about an event that was discussed a few months back (but glossed over)?
Carson James
Focus on the Saudi connection: al-Bayoumi
Blake Ortiz
You guys need to learn to separate the few massively powerful, anonymous, international plutocrat jews from the state of Israel.
Luke James
lol no
9/11 involvement was a combination of high ranking officials in the DOD, CIA, NSA and the whitehouse (dick cheney at the top) colluding with Isreali Mossad on the ground whos agents were the men who actually planted the bombs in the WTC towers (truck bombs at the base of the support columns in the parking garage packed to the hilt with RDX, thermite was never used.) and rigged building 7 for demolition. building 7 was the only proper controlled demolition. The towers were unontrolled demolitions. basically agents went into the towers using fake work orders and ID's to sabotage the fire supression systems they were doing this for almost two weeks straight before 9/11 this is why all the Israelis normally working in the buildings never showed up for work on 9/11. Once the fire control systems were sabotages on most of the upper floors the Towers basically turned into giant chimneys. So when planes crash into them the concentrated air flow turns the fire into a very hot steady burn that weakens the steel support structure. When the bombs in the basement go off they send a shockwave up the core columns like striking the worlds largest tuning fork, when the shockwave hits the burning impact zone made by the planes the weakened column snaps and the top part of the building drops down like a giant pulverizing block.
Grayson Torres
>That being said, what about the Saudi response are you specifically referring to? Because I see nothing out of the ordinary. Yet they were threatening the USG with bond selloffs and other mischief if it was released. I find it odd that there are crickets instead of screaming markets.
Levi Barnes
Some of us have. Some of us even understand that the "Jews" in Isreal aren't "real" Jews, they're "knock-offs".
Asher Davis
Makes you think...
Carter King
oy vey, alex jones this thread is not for you
Noah Roberts
Last part I've copied since I haven't read all of it yet. " Two individuals known to the FBI prior to September 11,2001 - Omar al-Bayoumi and Osama Bassnan - may have provided assistance or support ro al-Hazmi and al-Mihhar(both of these people were hijackers of the plane which flew into the Pentagon) while the two hijackers-to-be were living in San Diego. While the documentary evidence that al-Bayoumi provided assistance to al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar is solid, the files contain only limited evidence that Osama Bassnan had contacts with the two individuals. When al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar moved to San Diego, al-Bayoumi provided them with considerable assistance. Before the hijackers moved in with the long-time FBI informant, they stayed at al-Bayoumi's apartment for several days until al-Bayoumi was able to find them an apartment. Al-Bayoumi then co-signed their leas and may have paid their first month's rent and security deposit. After al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar moved into their own apartment, al-Bayoumi threw a party to welcome them to the San Diego community. he also tasked Modhar Abdullah, another individual from the Islamic Center of San Diego(ICSD), to help them get acclimated to the United States. Abdullah served as their translator, helped them get drivers' licenses, and assisted them in locating flight schools." That isn't part of this document, where is that from? Yeah, I just read the part about all the money he was given from the Saudis. Also, >captcha
Liam Taylor
Yeah, because it's fucking nothing.
Eli Hughes
Jews are a hive mind. They all work together. We can't get at the few massively powerful, anonymous, international plutocrat jews, so we pressure the rest of them to police their own and stop sowing discord and rebellion every where they go.
Jacob Campbell
So Al-Bayoumi was an FBI informant, AND helped the hijackers get established in the US and found them a flight school? It says he was a long time informant, yet he failed to inform the of the planned 9/11 attacks? Sorry, my first read through, trying to understand.
Samuel Myers
The government has already said this was speculation from early in the investigation.
Jack Clark
No. It says before they moved in with the long time FBI informant, they lived with al-Bayoumi. I am not sure who the informant is though.
Gavin Allen
Oh right, right. I read that wrong like three times.
Camden Ortiz
The Saudi Connection is the Ministry of Defense funding a Saudi agent who provided shelter and training for terror in the US.
Easton Gray
Your statement doesn't work out. >USG says we'll release document >Saudis say "the hell you won't" >USG says but we will >Saudis say "we'll retaliate, hit your pocketbook" >USG releases document >Nothing happens So either the Saudis are toothless in this (which is Intel on their geopolitical power) or this is collusion. Which is it? Either choice brings up lots of implications rather than just ending the topic. Your answer fails to answer.
Owen Hernandez
>if they want to "watch" me look at porn and write papers for class, then they're welcome to do so. Why?
That fucking attitude is what makes me hate some people.
>I've got nothing to hide bro! Fuck you.
Luis Ramirez
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Jose Williams
OP from the other thread here, You can suck a dick.
Charles Hall
Fool.
Blake Sullivan
ignore trolls on vpn, read the documents and bump the thread
Isaac Price
I'm reading, I'm reading....
And yes, there's more than "allegations" here. There are a few links that are considered by the FBI to be fact rather than alleged.
Camden Ross
Oh No! German fag thinks i'm a fool! There's nothing I can do to prevent myself from being eyeballed by big daddy gov't. Should I just cower away and say nothing?
Fuck you.
Brandon Morris
Well, I actually let you bully me into going along with your premise which was false. They didn't threaten to sell off assets over the 28 pages specifically. That was over the 9/11 damages thing. So your narrative is wrong.
Alexander Fisher
oh, here is something I missed. "Al-Bayoumi also had frequent contact with Saudi establishments in the United States. In a review, of telephone toll records the FBI learned that al-Bayoumi called Saudi Government establishments in the United States almost 100 times between January and May of 2000. According to the FBI, al-Bayoumi was in contact with at least three individuals at the Saudi Embassy in Washington, DC;two individuals at the Saudi Arabian Cultural Mission in Washington, DC; and three individuals at the Saudi Consulate in Los Angeles. In a search of Bayoumi's [--------REDACTED-------], they also discovered that he had the phone number for an individual at the Saudi Consulate in London." Just remember that Saudi claims that this man isn't one of their Intelligence agents.
Eli Anderson
he's right though. Take action, coward
Evan Cook
;) k.
Ryan Butler
good work user, you can fit all that in to one post? maybe the next thread?
Dylan Sanchez
No, you misinterpreted me then.
Do not shut up about stuff you care about. Just don't say that they shall watch you because you have 'nothing to hide'.
Do you shit in the middle of the street like a poo in loo? I suppose you don't, you most likely close the door and eventually even lock it, because shit has to be private. But on the internet people oftentimes act like the exact opposite.
That's a, if not _the_ problem.
And now kill yourself.
Jayden Lewis
>thinks people dive deeper than image macro reading you give your countrymen and women too much credit, friendo
Nicholas Clark
>image macro
Do you even know what that is?
Brayden Thomas
>alex jones
>calling the kikes out on their shit
Hmm...I wonder whos' behind these two post...
Matthew Thompson
No shit, dude.
Colton Nguyen
aus vpn pls go, we are talking about the declassified 9/11 report, not crypto-jewish-financial world domination
Sebastian Cox
It's your duty to read what the government didn't want you to know for this long.
Zachary Diaz
okay, pal.
Jason Russell
I didn't put them in one post because they were all different paragraphs but I think you could fit them into one post. I may not be here for the next thread though, so feel free to copy&paste it yourself. The more a person is denied something, the more they want it.
Justin Ramirez
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Charles Brooks
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Isaac Long
PIc related is why we invaded both.
These men wrote a paper years before 9/11 titled "The Afghan vortex"
Chase Green
You do have a point, but thinking they are a hive mind is silly.
They share goals and objectives. That might resemble a hivemind, but is far from it.
Lincoln Sanchez
at 0:44 you can see the exact moment when the metal fails
Michael Baker
Any sources on the truck bombs?
I've seen the Israeli (((student art film))) with the kikes making preparations, but never heard of this.
Connor Rivera
Caused by the molten steel dripping?
Nolan Cook
>No. Isreal would never work directly with them as it undermines some of their goals Oh poor poor user you're so naive.
The Saudis Israelis and US intelligence groups have had extremely close ties through the safari club which is a deep rabbit hole explained in link For all of these hard to find documents and information packed into an easily digestible redpill concentrate one needs to purchase this documentary. It is an updated and significantly longer version of the famous"War by deception" from the same creator. All funds go to funding a JfK film and further expanding independent media.
So he was actually right all along. It wasn't the jew. Does this kill the jew meme?
The Saudis [Royal Family] are WAY more powerful than Sup Forums would ever have you believe.
Noah Cook
>this thread is about the mainstream good goy official story, not the truth
Cameron Brown
Bump for relevancy
Easton Jones
Truck bombs were the direct Israeli role in the attack. Urban moving systems(a mossad front company the "dancing Israelis" worked for) was caught on the George Washington bridge with a truckload of explosives Relevant documents and piece by piece explanation in
Jonathan Allen
Read the thread, kike.
Luis Ortiz
See It was a joint operation
Lucas Brooks
thanks Mexico, once the wall is built you can visit any time.
Jacob Gomez
this is some crazy shit...
Anthony Baker
>>No. Isreal would never work directly with them as it undermines some of their goals >Oh poor poor user you're so naive. You misunderstand - I know they are using them, but they are not *directly* involved with them; they won't work directly that way.
Put simply I USG SA, no-one has to "hold hands" and everyone gets what they want, without the mess to clean up that links the two.
Daniel Scott
>The Saudis Israelis and US intelligence groups have had extremely close ties through the safari club which is a deep rabbit hole explained in link That's speculative. I'll go by the facts in the 28 pages.
