Well I had my first argument with a trans person today, was about how I believe no class is free of being mocked and joked about, and all they took from it was I believe whites should be protected and trans shouldn't, we argued about it for a few minutes and they kept leaving out the sentence where I established the fact that anything could be mocked, and used that as a basis for the argument.
Was a fucking shit storm and god I hate everyone involved
The only thing they did was twist your words because they had no argument other than the progressive stack.
Noah Miller
n0b0dy c4r3s tr4nny originally
Wyatt King
They are brainwashed why even bother trying
Lucas Gomez
>hey guys im punching down, hard, why arent you laughing >NIGGER CUCK NIGGER TRANNY NIGGER, why is nobody laughing with me
Thomas Gonzalez
You should never argue with crazy people user, never.
Anthony Thompson
I thought maybe I could have a simple debate, but it ended in them slinging insults at me, they normally do anyway calling me a bitch and coward, I always didnt respond cause I couldn't care, but once I got in, what I thought, was a friendly debate it just devolved, may post screen shots of some of it
James Cox
By default and definition Trans are mentally ill/broken. Gotta start there.
Luis Brooks
hey debbie the cripple, still havent grown new legs?? lolol hey anthony wheres your penis. not killed yourself yet huh??? give it time lol WHY ARE YOU GETTING MAD AT ME THATS ILLEGAL HOW darRE YOU
Anthony Murphy
OP is a fragile little babby who had his delicate fee-fees hurt by a trans person lmao. but theyre the crazy one!!!
Tyler Wilson
tranny here, u sound like a faggot OP
Isaac Gutierrez
>I thought maybe I could have a simple debate, but it ended in them slinging insults at me sounds like they completely owned you lmao
Andrew Perry
Social justice *is* the institutions. Ironically punching social justice ideologues *is* punching up.
Levi Hughes
Maybe, wish I was just insulted by it, heres one of the memes that were transphobic and were punching down to trans people
to the nearest dozen, how many trans people have completely owned you when you tried the Sir, Sir Please Debate Me shit
Connor Lopez
>got into an argument with the mentally ill >it devolved into autistic shrieking wow how unexpected
Chase Williams
Can't wait for all these trannies to start getting locked up
Brody Sanchez
Ya honestly should have seen that coming
Landon Fisher
OP's right, sacred cows are stupid, and far too many trans folks like to put on the sassy charade and whine about 'pression when they get shat on back.
Jayden Phillips
I think someone is salty that cis folks don't find them attractive.
Thomas Powell
Yes,OP. I'm sure you were very respectful and made valid logical points clearly while also listening to what the other person was saying and not an offensive dick who put actual effort into being a subtle asshole.
Noah Brooks
I Said Mean Hurtful Things And Now People Dont Like Me, How Do I Force Them To Like Me Again????
Jason Kelly
this
Hudson Davis
you shouldn't have engaged, user. Personally, I don't willingly acknowledge trans-peoples as it can only breed conflict. Whether that makes me better or worse than you, I don't know, but at least I wasn't made to look like an absolute sperg, by a tranny, in front of mixed company.
Dominic Lewis
Oh no, we usually sling some insults at each other, so when they commented that my grammar skills were lacking, I simply replied their comprehension skills were left at the third grade, probably why the never grew up mentally either
Jason Wilson
you're not very good at telling jokes that fact has no bearing on OP having the right of it
Thomas Gutierrez
sick burn dude, you definitely put xe/xir in xey/xherx place.
Brody Perry
Explain it to me: why should a class of people have a free pass to shit on whomever they want and another class of people get a free pass to be shit on by whomever?
Joseph Baker
because frankly, i dont like you
Colton Bell
This
Eli Smith
you made your bed, centrist, now lay in it you stupid gremlin
you either join the left or the right now enjoy tranny aids cock in your face you dumb room temperature nigger
Adrian Barnes
You can't argue with someone who denies their mental illness.
Nathaniel Miller
i guess. my point was to illustrate that simply saying awful things about people, then hiding behind Its A Joke Bro Its Just A Joke and Actually Everybody Can Be Mocked Therefore I Was Right is cowardice
Wyatt Smith
I understand the point, and agree that there is a limit to how much can be nu joked or said about, but when people post that whites shouldn't be protected and deserve every lashing they get, followed by the fact you shouldn't make jokes at trans people cause they've been hurt enough, kind of takes away any good will
Connor Bailey
>I thought mentally ill body mutilating folks with image issues would be open to people's opinions
Kek
You takin the piss m8?
Sebastian Fisher
to be fair, white people *are* garbage lol
Ian Jenkins
More than likely, thought people had a little more self respect but I should have guessed that when you have mutilated your body for something, having someone try to poke at it might leave you sore
Julian Rogers
The fuck is punching down?
Jayden Jenkins
heres the explanation: life isn't fair, and you're being just as faggy as they are by bitching about how your faggot ass is being "shit on." Grow the fuck up. Real men don't have time for this liberal nonsense, and we honestly don't have time to refute it either. Work needs to get done, families need to get fed, and yet you're still buying into their delusions that perceived victimhood is worth anything more than the salt in their eyes.
Julian Richardson
Think beating a 4 year old as an adult, easy as fuck and an easy as fuck target, so if I called someone mentally handicapped a retard and they should roll off a bridge it's an easy target
Jack Smith
I don't know why whites had a free pass to shit on non-whites. Seriously a good question
Isaac Russell
Yeah, sure, if someone tells a shitty joke that no one finds funny or they said shitty things and try to duck under the "plausible" deniability of it being a joke, that's dumb and they should own what they said. Take responsibility for that.
That situation, however, isn't the discussion.
The discussion is whether or not everyone's fair game for joking about.
Grayson Moore
For quite a long time, guns, lot of guns, and pointy sticks, but also that was a long time ago, people involved are dead, get over it
Joseph Reyes
Fact
Blake Johnson
>Real men >Words which have no meaning when uttered on Sup Forums
Isaiah Kelly
This
Eli Rivera
Wow you sound like an absolute faggot
Caleb Lee
I had a friend that came out as trans. I knew him/her for 10+ years as a close friend. I told her/him that we accepted it, but it would take time to adjust and use their new name. Instead, he/her cut us off the next day and cut ties. They are over sensitive, op. You did nothing wrong. There is a reason they stick to "their own kind."
Leo Miller
Nah Now is my time to shit on whites. Cry more
Jose Murphy
Oh. So punching down = picking an easy/defenseless target?
Easton Cook
You'd have better luck convincing a paranoid schizophrenic that the Illuminati aren't after them desu senpai
Nolan Morgan
Exaclty
Aiden Phillips
There's only one class of people claiming to be victimized in the discussion. Criticism of that isn't a claim of victimhood.
It's not "liberal nonsense." It's social justice ideology, specifically.
The fact that they've collectivized so well is precisely how they're asserting the double standard in the first place.
Nathaniel Price
How did trans vs cis morph into non-white vs white?
Thank you for taking the time to bring me up to speed. While we are at it any other modern terms I should know like wearing red or slapping cheeks?
Lucas Wright
It's a tacit way of staying that whites are just better than everybody else, and must treat their inferiors with kids gloves lest they damage then with their superiority
Josiah Thomas
Why would you argue with normies, let alone mentally ill normies?
Bentley Morris
That's what they say, but social justice is institutionalized. They're not an easy target. They're not defenseless.
Christian Collins
you misspelled jews
Nolan Sanders
>If I can explain it they have to admit they're wrong and be defeated.
OP ends the modern wave of image issues and gender dysphoria with a logical highschool debate! Read all about it!
OP: I just told them they should respond like normal people and they were so ashamed that they instantly fell to their knees and began kissing my shoes.
Ironic male privalege stories start again when?
Isaiah Wright
Guess the whole thing started cause I wanted to talk to someone about it, I don't like the idea of being in an echo chamber like on tumblr, what's the point of having an ideal if you aren't going to test it?
Needless to say my point still stands, not even a scratch on it from.the monkey shit throwing crew
Zachary Jenkins
WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU PEOPLE?
Jordan Ward
Basically in marxism and it's spawn you have "oppressed" and "oppressor" classes.
"Punching down" is marxist speak for anyone considered a part of the "oppressor" class "attacking" anyone considered of the "oppressed" class.
This means that if some white bum starts berating a multi-million dollar black actor like Morgan Freeman, despite the disparity of resources afforded to the white bum he's still "punching down" or "oppressing" the poor black multi-million dollar actor.
Intersectionality tries to remedy some of that. It doesn't. But it tries.
Gabriel Barnes
The other user said it was picking easy targets. You're saying it's using someone's success against them. I am confuze
Joseph Perry
Maybe just don't mock other people, and stop being an asshole? The Golden Rule?
>whoa is me, trying to be intelligent...right guys?
Can we get some "shut up freak" goes home and posts online "today I totally owned someone by calling out their privalege" memes?
Brandon Thomas
The general idea is not about mocking people, but believing one type of people is above jokes/mockery/what not, and one isnt, I believe everyone is equally able to have a nice your mom joke thrown at them regardless, obviously that's not the limit but where I stand
Jacob Bell
Always is Mostly because it's white males who are the most triggered by trannies these days
Julian Lee
What would end the modern wave of gender dysphoria is for it to stop being hocked as trendy on fucking social media. More and more reports are coming in from people regretting transition and it's permanent consequences.
Er'rybody got body image issues, take a number.
No, you don't gotta act normal, but you ain't getting any sympathy from people by being all like, "Yes for me, no for thee."
Fuck off.
Lucas Johnson
This is an exemplary explanation
I never fail to be amazed what I learn here
Jaxson Murphy
and trannies are most triggered by lesbian females(female) who won't suck their feminine dick (terfs I believe they call them)
Dominic Brown
Fact check anything you learn online, number one rule
Jaxon Bennett
Inb4 " No. huge explanation, everything in life has to be super convoluted and only stupids keep things simple"
John Gutierrez
Intersectionality is there to help the oppressed keep better track of their place in the victim hierachy, it's not meant to do anything for white males.
My neighbors are either smoking pot or making a ton of popcorn...damn that smells good
Sebastian Rivera
what, no they're not. that sounds like something a delusional terf would say.
Daniel Lopez
Oh nevermind, a skunk sprayed
Evan Martinez
Probably both ...with chocolate syrup
Ryan Watson
Kek
Adrian Martin
That's it's practical application and how it's used by most of it's adherents, yes.
Nicholas Harris
With chocolate syrup?
Aaron Rodriguez
We eatin gud tonite grannie
Jaxson Young
True, it is an anecdotal observation. When trannies talk about the most privileged apex of the human race (straight white men), I only notice a smoldering hatred. However, the second a lesbian states that 'transbians', there is an immediate outburst of fury, far greater in its intensity than anything I usually see from that group
It's how it is by design. In the example of the white bum nothing can change even with intersectionality, because only social group is considered not individual status.
Colton Fisher
I know, I agree with you. Which is why I originally said intersectionality really doesn't fix the issue.
Owen King
Eh? I was actually thinking of filling my bong with chocolate syrup to smoke a fat bowl of my chocolope bud. I don't think it will work.....
Asher Ross
"Law" is so boring....we can do better
Mason Carter
On one hand it could lead to something glorious
Know the other your bong might be ruined for quite some time if not for her
Ian Rodriguez
You also said it tries to fix issues which it absolutely doesn't and was never intended to. It was invented by a jew after all.
Jeremiah Scott
>forever
Fucking god
Carter Gray
Terfs suck though They ARE Hated FOR Good REASON AND IT'S NOT Because THE Don't Suck TRANNY dick.
(fuck THis phone )
Ethan Thompson
It might.
For fucking science user. One small step for man, one giant - dude, do you have any chips?
Carson Williams
Ah. So if intersectionality did what it is sold to do then white bum should get enough 'pression points to offset all that wealth privilege black million dollar actor has.
A social justice ideologue will begrudgingly agree.
However that's not how intersectionality is applied, but it is dual purpose. Yes, you're right it is still a 'pression point counter for in group adherents. For out group? A shell game where the rules are rigged so you always lose.