Why do liberals hate America?

Why do liberals hate America?

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The idea seems to be that if you can't rise up to success, maybe you can drag everyone else down to failure.

We don't, we just want a more equitable society that respects all individuals and gives them the opportunity to succeed.

Fuck trannies though

Liberals don't hate America. It's fucked up that people actually believe otherwise.

people are really delusional enough to think "success" is attainable, when really all you do is work harder to sustain whichever lifestyle you chose. You'll actually never in your life experience the true wealth the world has to offer.

yes they fucking do

And what makes you such an expert on me and my wealth?

"Success" is something personal. It's subjective. People getting buttblasted because they're not waking up in a Bugatti after a half-day of ineffectually re-heating burritos is pretty deluded imo.

Nope. Fucking don't.

They don't. They hate themselves and are projecting.

ding ding ding ding /thread

liberals like to think that everyone is equal, when that couldn't be farther from the truth. when everyone is equal there is no motivation for extraordinary people to be successful. suddenly everything grinds to a halt, and the only way to motivate people to do the bare minimum is through force and threats of violence. i.e. every communist nation that has ever existed.

Lack of guidance when younger and mentally remaining as children well into their 30s.
>Parents were both forced to work because they live in cities
>High cost of living
>Education was left to the "school system"
>Teacher's workload increased
>Teacher's unions grew too powerful as a result
>Teacher's pissed at parents
>Blame both kids and their parents
>Kids start blaming their parents and rebel
>More strain on parents (50% divorce)
>Child now raised with even less guidance
>50/50 shot at rounding out as a decent person
>Internet spreads stupid just as fast as knowledge
>Kids instinctively think "why can't everyone just get along?"
>Communist/Socialist ideologies flourish in the midst of ignorance
>Liberalism in 2019
The last 3 generations have been a repeat of this in cities, even worse once the internet came about and let city schools guilt the rural ones into retarded policies.

all of that can be blamed on our predatory capitalistic and punitive justice systems

That's a separate facet or parallel.

Because op is a giant faggot. If he wasn't such a faggot, us liberals would love America.

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what an uninformative response

Get over it.

Pretty apt response to the unrelated one I received. It has literally nothing to do with the justice system at all.

Because they've never been hungry or homeless.
Those of us who have however are perfectly aware that America kicks ass.

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They don't. They just don't blindly and unquestioningly love everything the Republican charlatans do in the name of fake "patriotism".

>cost of living
>teachers workload
>teachers unions
>parents forced to work
>teachers pissed at parents
>strain on parents
>children angry at parents
>communist/socialist ideologies brew in the wake of late stage capitalism
this is our predatory and callous capitalistic system

and then we arrive at why our justice system is relevant
>50/50 shot at rounding out as a decent person
the concept of fear and crime always looming (even for silly stuff like victimless crimes) plaguing our peoples minds like a sickness. when money is desperately needed because of our disgusting systems that have long abandoned them even as children, they will turn to crime (children will be without a parent because of this in a lot of cases) and then the terrible punitive system chugs along making our society worse.

No they don't and you're a fucking retard.

In current year there may be some relevance with the justice system, however before you arrive at that point there's a myriad of other (more important) parallels to consider. You just named one of them and that's capitalism, with that you have medical/pharma that preys on impressionable children with medications to "treat" non-existent conditions and glownigger psychologists to mold them. I could touch on half a dozen more important aspects before I arrive at anything involving the justice system.

>It has literally nothing to do with the justice system at all.
to
>there may be some relevance with the justice system
I suggest being more deliberate in your analysis.

>I could touch on half a dozen more important aspects before I arrive at anything involving the justice system.
those aspects are possibly more important in your eyes due to a lack of knowledge. Don't be too quick to shrug off the damage our justice system does to everyone.

Fun fact, i thought the dude in OP was a chick all the way up until i had porn commissioned of the image. Am i the only one whod hatefuck that?

Or you could follow along, since I'm speaking to the timespan from birth to around 17-18 in which the justice system plays no real part with them personally. The only relevance being if their parents get involved with the justice system (indirectly) or act out before they're adults themselves, which happens but is still less likely.

I wonder how many people from birth to 18 just never go through (or have a parent, or family member, or friend resulting in them being affected) a negative experience with the justice system/police that influences them negatively. This doesn't even account for the passive and looming damage of the justice system for all of the relevant people to a person birth to 18. Police arresting someone outside of your home (or killing someone) and word being spread it was for something small like weed possession is a very basic example.

i love having the same gay political bait threads every day. please let it never end.

this is gayer than trap porn and nigger dick threads.

My experiences with police have been generally good overall. I've even had a bomb squad in my house once.

>coping this hard

The Criminal Justice System and Prison Industrial Complex are realistically the only sensible policies left in america. There is a kind of tyranny to it, but its a necessary tyranny that effectively results in the disarming and removal of large chunks of the male population from certain regions of the country that would otherwise create a malthusian apocalypse. These same populations already kill eachother at a high enough rate to keep their populations stable, but without such a vast prison system keeping them physically detained their population would be uncontrollable. And at that point you would need more violent, Herbert Spencerian Social Darwinist methods.

Part of the genius is that we in america forbid felons from voting and owning a weapon. Now I'm not sure why liberals find that policy disgusting but preventing the inner city from owning guns and voting is a law too frankly clever to be american.

Having to explain common sense to a potato? It's a little tiring I suppose.

It's still an industry as user said, I'm not debating that.

overpopulation is a malthusian fantasy and the tyranny is not justified or necessary, thats a cope.

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Well yes, but honestly its an ingenius industry. I'mpraising it. Demographically America has always been an awful place to live, but through the vast prison system its been made somewhat tolerable. I would say it hasn't gone as far as it could, but its a decent model for the prison systems that will become necessary in most of the EU in the coming years, and those countries who imitate the american prison system will most comfortably adapt to their demographic shifts out of all the EU member states. Most liberal moralfaggotry stems from a set of prerequisite axioms that you have to accept as true before you can get to the criticisms they have arrived at.

This is basically why Nazis, Communists and even Anarchists have a naked hatred towards them, its because liberalism is one of the only "Moral" political ideologies around, aside from christian conservatives

You cope with being 5' 6", when you create a shadow gulag that hides in plain sight and holds back Stoddard's Rising Tide, you celebrate it

And its profitable too, dont forget how much money is made every year off of otherwise burdensome groups of genetic riffraff.

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Liberals believe in progression to a fault. Conservatives believe in holding on to what works at a given time. A balance between the two works best. Liberals dont hate America anymore then conservatives want to impeded the rights of others. Unfortunately the idiot extremists if each group screeches the loudedst and paint a shitty picture of each group, so niethier side is willing to have an actual conversation.

this

Liberals don’t hate America. Conservatives are so brainwashed by blind, infantile nationalism that when they hear rational adults re-evaluate and criticize a system that they’re actively involved in and care about, they confuse it for hatred.
It’s like a toddler hearing one of their relatives say that they don’t like Wendy’s fries as much as McDonalds and throwing a tantrum because “they love Wendys” and “it’s perfect” and “uncle dan is a stupid head”who doesn’t know what real food is” and “he’s trying to destroy the nuclear family” and “McDonalds is owned by Jews”

Jesus grow up

Donald looks eager for cum even though it was weirdly blown through some boxers. All leaking out and shit man I hate that feeling.

wtf are you talking about?

what job have you worked that you're chirping about re heating fucking burritos?

do you know how much a banana costs?

the thing about extraordinary people.... is that they exist literally everywhere because that's what they do, they exceed the ordinary you fucking smooth brain piece of shit

yeah i've been hungry in America and it only pushes people against the wage gap that exists and is widening you fucking idiot

quit fucking lying because no one poor would think that the system works

>necessary tyranny

fuck you fascist
go die

That is succinct and accurate.

>it only pushes people against the wage gap that exists and is widening
Fucking communist, learn how to speak before you try to lecture me about economics.

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fuck off you enlightened centrist

if you're not against the republican party that currently exists that you are wrong

fuck America

Yes.

thank you for being sane.

really though, Sup Forums is the last place to try and have political discourse.

They tend to come from affluent families, so they dont understand how the downtrodden exist.
They dont understand day'rell the hoodnigga is not the same as their black friend james, who likes anime and plays clarinet, they've never seen real adversity, so their perspective is skewed by ignorance and inexperience, the worst thing they know is 1st world problems, because they just dont realize that the world is a shitty place with far more to worry over than trans rights in a 1st world country.
It's evident in their idealogy:
They hate the west because it's all they know, while remaining ignorant that it's only because of the west that they have so few problems they can start picking and choosing what problems to be mad about
They want blacks to be everywhere, because they've never met a nigger.
They want muslims because they dont know that sandniggers are their literal antithesis and make up the VAST majority of practicing muslims

I envy them, i really do, it must be nice to have a worldview where the whole world is super friendly, not put to rob/rapeurder/beat you, and the worst thing to ever happen to you is daddy's credit card got suspended for a day so you couldn't buy your fashionably trendy starbucks soy latte

fuck you

You've never said, "no, you can't do that" to someone you love....

I'll pray for you.

Couldn't have said it better

We dont, the far left is just delusional

Then why have they worked tirelezzly to remove the 2nd amendment, inch by inch?

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they dont hate america since parasites love their host until it dies

This is not actually true in most cases. Although the monologue was kinda neat.

i noticed the libs on twitter act kinda like cult members. they pretend everything is racist and sexist and go silent if you question them.

Kek, decent

we have that, you guys clearly want something different. based on what people that typically say what you just said, i can only guess you all just hate white people.

your movement and all movements like it die out, it wont be forgotten, many of you have ruined your own lives by going public with weird schizophrenic ideas.

It is gay to vote for another man

this. they don't hate america, they just hate white people and want to ruin america as much as possible

>balance between the two works best.
yeah, this hasnt been proven.

using what works is well proven.

I have seen multiple people rise from poverty to success. Deluded losers

hopefully we can convince them to kill themselves. stage 1 is complete, they all think they're already going to die in 15 years and have stopped breeding.

we planned this on pol, pointed to a faulty disproven scientific study because we knew they would parrot it endlessly without question.

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>conservatives want to impeded the rights of others.
Oh, so you’re retarded

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guys, imagine burning to death from global warming. might as well end it now.

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I think that liberals are given a bad rap, might he biased but I believe most of the self identified liberals just want to create an environment where we offer a chance or helping hand to those we can within reason.

We aren't retarded we just want to believe in the good in mankind, sometimes to a fault, and this isn't feasible in most political territories. However, we definitely don't hate America.

The crazy college crowd paints us poorly, and some radicals should be buried under the prison, but they are just a loud minority. Liberals believe in the constitution and what makes this country great, only fools and posers would try to dismantle what we have created over the years.

That's what I was thinking. I don't think they realize that 100% of everyone that isn't responding is secretly thinking "wow democrats are retarded".

liberals are retarded. they think being taxed for everyones university, insurance and bad diet is progress, possible and "free" somehow. only a retard can think this.

if you want to get technical, just replace retard with gullible

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Liberals try to love up to the american promise of living how you choose as long as it doesn't fuck with anyone elses life.

Why do conservatives hate America so much that they're trying to destroy it along with everything that makes it great? And why do conservatives think we're all stupid enough that we can't see how plainly obvious it is that they are?

You make assumptions without actually having a conversation. This is why we csnt have nice things.

you're a retard and probably should pay attention to politics after you spent a few years working at a job and watching people be corrupt and retarded.

after that you can start designing the progressive utopia.

A lot of conservatives see it as an affront to certain values. Homosexuality and drug legislation in GOP's mind leads to degeneracy. Others think we are to lax with our money.

I'd admit some of our candidates are a bit disconnected with what matters, but I'm with you when I say a lot of the misconceptions are baseless.

Lol ok. I'm glad you just project so hard man, you dont even know me and that makes you super predictable.

Libs are usually the gullible little kids that have no insight into the way wiser people exploit things. They actually think democrats will deliver on the 'free shit' promises and somehow won't have to pay for it.

Satan is liberal.

>Homosexuality and drug legislation
these are not important issues. especially homosexuality, nobody is attacking them. they are fucking annoying and should get married and leave everyone the fuck alone.

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American pride is really fucking stupid, also there’s a shit ton of racists left in the south, (Born and live in America btw), American symbols are lame, fuck up other countries for no reason , we get involved in wars we have nothing to do with, and the government is all fucked and don’t care about the average civilians.

Only retards love everything about America
Liberals are a part of America

They shit where they eat

I know that you're gullible and low IQ, you already admitted to it earlier in the thread.

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Older dems see it a bit more for what it is.

everyone knows most racists are black and mexican. they're literally trained to hate white people from birth.

But these values still sway a lot of a vote in certain places, like the bible belt and other midwest areas.

I know you are trying to be a good troll, but you are transparent.

Older dems are still retarded. They voted to force everyone to buy health insurance for basically no reason. You gullible twats didn't realize insurance is a banking product and you're just forcing everyone to make payments to banks. Banks, the 1%. Democrats are really only good for entertainment, they are cringe farm for conservative youtube channels.

So what? There is a reason we have states, its basically retarded that you guys want every state to do and think the same thing, kinda ruins the multivariate experiment this country is.

True, white people are the only race scared to talk about race in public. This coming from the libtard.

It's pretty fucking stupid, bringing attention to race inside of a conversation is more fucked up than just being yourself with other races as individuals.

Fuck nigs as a whole, but blacks can be ok, same for everyone.

Did you see the pic I posted? Everyone is sick of alphabet people, they're fucking annoying, nobody is stopping them from stuffing their dicks in shit.

I honestly just want them to start calling white people "niggers", im pretty sure at that point, normal people would start going "oh............. oh i see whats happening. . . . . shit maybe this is bad"

Because the armchair political philosopher believes himself to be both wise and cunning enough to bring on a better way of life to the unwashed masses. It's far from a new sentiment (see Orwell).

Agreed. Success breeds jealousy.

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Obamacare was Subprime Health Insurance and Obama was just an insurance salesman, the greatest of all time.

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We dont want people to think the same, we just want to make sure that our leaders arent chose because of a religious belief or outdated moral code, but rather on their ability to lead and make decisions that have beneficial outcomes for as many as possible. Sex, creed, or color not withheld.

this too, libs apparently never took statistics. charts like this one make them jump to all kinds of false conclusions. It's hard to tell if they're trying to trick people or if they're really just stupid.