What makes Capitalism the best economic system?

What makes Capitalism the best economic system?

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It inspires human innovation and growth always looking for a better and more efficient way to entertain and solve problems

BUT It just favors who’s already winning and allows them to make the rules while the other players focus on surviving at a certain point and drives towards the belief system of whoever’s currently winning ie Christianity white supremacy etc

when was the last time you saw a public nigger lynching user?

I never said it was racing towards that now but the right but didn’t we go to war over the right to own slaves ?

lies and propaganda to make the 99% believe that you too can be a billionaire through hard work.

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yeah Jeff Beszos suddenly woke up one day with a multi-billion dollar corporation named Amazon

Existence and need inspire progress and change. Before capitalism, people were still innovating and creating. After capitalism people will still create and innovate.

It's not inherintly oppressive, but the way it's setup now definitely leans to keeping the poor poor and the rich rich while upholding the illusion that this is not the case.

Black people not getting killed in the streets is a good step away from barbarism. Having a president that says dissenters should be lynched(in so many incoherent words) is an obvious sign that there is still progress to be made.

Jeff Bezos had the obviously unparalleled genius to, get this, have a shopping mall ONLINE. Nobody else could have had this idea and so he deserves to make more money then he and his family could ever need or spend even though there are millions of people that could use it to just meet their basic needs. Because these poor people are so stupid that they didn't have the same idea, they deserve to be poor and sick and homeless.
>conservatives actually believe this

Capitalism is the best economic system because any failing of the system can be blamed on the individual person.

Standing in line for bread can be blamed on socialism, but rarely do you see someone blame capitalism for the homeless.
The homeless should just work harder. That is their fault.
This obscures Capitalisms failings to most people making them think it is the best system.

I'm not a socialist by the way, as it comes with it's own problems. But Capitalism is far from perfect.

dude started with a single pc in his garage. like any other person could do.

It's not the best system. It's the natural order. Ape exchange food for sex. Any other system is forced and will not stand.

Not true. Some of us don't even get to start owning a PC or a house.

nigga are you for real?

what are you using now?

you can... You need to know people, be sociable. Work the system to your every advantage. Silently be deceiving and grow your wealth over time. To much work if you ask me.

Innovation slows to a crawl once capitalism picks a winner. Why would they need to waist time and money innovating when they're already winning.

This.

At it's purest, Capitalism is a system where the top 1% survive by being a parasite of the state and collaborate with their purchased government cronies to funnel more money via tax breaks into their pockets

I admit that this is impressive, BUT it doesn't change that he makes more than he deserves for an idea literally anybody else could have had. It also doesn't mean that everybody has the same oppurtunities he does.

Bezos will never know the pain that is owning a car on a minimum wage paycheck. Some asshole rear ends your most expensive investment, making it so your plate can't be placed back on. You don't have the money to repair but still need the vehicle to get to work. A cop catches you and gives you a ticket. Because you don't have the moeny to fix your car, you now owe the government money.

You do your part as a law abiding citizen to pay off this fine(and avoid jailtime) but to do so you have to miss an insirance payment. You get pulled over again, for the same problem as before because, surprise surprise, you still can't afford to fix your car. You get another ticket because you didn't have enough money to afford insurance. You are now paying off multiple tickets because you didn't have enough money to fix your car. In your stressed out state you catch a gnarly cold. You can't miss work and so get to the clinic and get prescribed some meds for it. You pay $60 you don't have to get the meds so you can get to work so you can do your best to pay off your fines so you can catch up and get your car fixed. While on your meds, you doze off on your home from a 10 hour shift and, luckily, only clip a brick wall. Your driverside headlights are now fucked. You get pulled over again, this time for the headlights and get yet another ticket. And it just goes on. And on. And on.

Too bad you're just too fucking stupid to have the money, time and knowhow to start an internet mall, huh? Capitalism didn't do this. You did by being poor and stupid.
>sux4um8

The fact it’s supporters killed or severely handicapped all other systems.

take public transport then, offset the risk with a ride sharing app.

Christ there are SO many ways to avoid this. No-one forced you to buy a car faggot

>Nobody else could have had this idea
This is how morons judge whether or not succes was earned.

Post scarcity is the best economic system. Unfortunately we maintain artificial scarcity because some thoroughly dull people feel they need billions to be special.

Capitalism is basically rewarding greed and exploitation.

It's not the best system but it's fiercely protected by those who have worked it to thier advantage so it's unlikely to change.

imagine being this retarded

Again, not everyone has these options. Plenty of small towns don't have busses or enough pbussesneeding them to make a rideshare viable. Just because there are workarounds in some instances doesn't mean they're available to everybody.

I hate capitalism including the produced electronics I used to send this message

you posting from the streets of the ghetto on some mystic internet device then?

Online retailing was already a thing before Amazon popped up. What set Amazon apart was how it handled delivering. It made shopping online *convenient*. And that itself wasn't an original idea either, they were just the first to successfully make it happen.

Nothing, since it is entirely unsustainable without a large amount of social policies.

but neither is your very specific situation applicable to everybody.

no, the US went to war over state's rights. Keep getting duped by revisionist history tho...

im not gonna act like i know for sure what that others guy's point was myself, but you're still braindead for not even getting the gist of it

>deserve to be sick
That's edgy because they will contaminate you with their desease better keep them clean but as slaves like they don't fucking own anything and must constantly work for almost no pay

Thats the beauty of capitalism - you CAN become extremely wealthy. Well, maybe YOU can't, but people with marketable skills can...

Authoritarian policies.

Capitalists like to pretend to be lassiez faire... except for the part where if they pics off thier workforce they turn up in the middle of the night and stab you. They rely on authoritarian rule to manage that which allows them to exploit thier workforce without any consideration.

Its not a free market system that makes billionaires.

Before capitalism was the barter system, which is still capitalism. Capitalism is the most natural form of economics on any scale.

Due to things like copyright laws we don't live in a system anything like capitalism.

What people consider free market capitalism is more akin to corporate welfare handouts.

The vast majority of Trumps tax breaks went to billionaires who didnt need them and used them to buy back their own stocks and give themselves an even bigger payday.

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Capitalism isnt perfect.

But it's the best alternative we have currently.

It wont make everyone billionaires but it gives most people who put on try hard mode to at least have a decent existence.

Socialism/commitards have been tried repeatedly and have failed over and over again.

The problem is making people jealous of others and convincing them socialism is a good thing is SOOOO easy.

TLDR Capitalism is the best we've tried so far.

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great, so we start everyone off as millionaires, then you'll complain not everyone is a triillionaire.

your simpleton mind isn't even difficult to predict, you just can't accept their are facts like some people are poor and will stay that way, partly due to their own choices, partly not.

People get killed, whether in the streets or in their homes or on a battlefield. Ignoring black-on-black crime, there is no evidence to support that blacks are being killed at a greater rate than any other group, and considerable evidence to support that the media has sensationalized black victimhood.

agreed we should have raised taxes on poor people. They are apart of the social contract too!

You're a talentless faggot and it shows. Keep seething over your lack of ingenuity. Keep trying to reach into the pockets of people who will always out-do you, no matter how much effort you invest. At the end of the day, you're a pathetic chapped-ass loser who will die with no legacy to speak of. Remember to vote blue!

I would argue America isn't nearly as Capitalist as people think its just the most Capitalist in alot of ways.
People are angry with the results from a healthcare system they have falsely been lead onto beleive is private.
Banking and a monetaty system they think is private.
Education they think is private
We are just as Socialist and have just as much goverment power as the European paradises they think exist because the tv told them so.
I also think anither issue is everyone feels they are super smart and deserves to be rich and deserves to be a success but the reality is the majority of people are stupid, ignorant, and make poor decisions so although systemic road blocks are an actual thing they have dug their own ditches to stay in and be resentful of success in.

I was a homeless drug addict 5 years ago with no actual work experience and a highschool education. I now make 30 an hour and worked my way up through several shit jobs. My decisions put me where i was. It wasnt the 1%, it wasn't the racist legal system. It was me.

Thats Capitalism at its most corrupt. Capitalism at its purest is laisse-faire, no intervention, no bailouts, just supply & demand.

Self-made billionaires are an extreme minority of the ultra-rich class. Most of them come from generational wealth. When your parents paid for your car, rent and education, you aren't stuck with massive debt. When they get a job at their parents company, they don't have to waste time working their way up the ladder. When they have $250,000 collecting interest in an investment account instead of $2500, they are used to having thousands of dollars of free money that seems to just pop up in their bank account.

That's not to insult rich kids, only to demonstrate that not every rich person has earned it through grit and bootstraps.

I know people with 50x my net worth who have never had a job IN THEIR LIFE. One of these people has a job offer at his father's legal firm for $65,000 a year PART TIME, and he's been stalling on it for months because it's not enough money. These are the people we're discussing, not a doctor making 6 figures.

You are kinda proving his point...

No, Bezos will never again know your exquisite pain of mediocrity. I can't speak to his early life, he may have struggled to make car payments at some point in his life, I'm not sure. Whats absurd is the idea of "making more than he deserves." Who are you to decide what someone deserves? Who are you to estimate the hours of labor, the stressors of creating and losing opportunities, the grueling challenge of creating a globally-recognized brand? Who made you judge and jury? He created something, and he can charge as much as the market will bear, as is his God-given right, as is yours, should you stumble your way, ass-backwards if at all, into creating anything of value.

$30 dollars an hour isnt shit. While you were sleeping in the streets and crawling your way up the corporate ladder, Hunter Biden made $83,000 EVERY MONTH sitting on a Ukranian natural gas company board, despite knowing nothing about natural gas or Ukraine

No, capitalism is democracy for money. Greed is curbed by the free-market, and greediness that hasn't been curbed by the free-market is only the illusion of greediness.

>inb4 other ppl make more than me and don't deserve to

Alot of people handed wealth fuck it up. Look at lotto winners. Alot of people handed down their parents company fuck it up, and yes there are people qho are succesful because their parents were but there are also loads of self starters too so saying u know people who didnt earn it doesnt really disprove the ones who did. There just isn't room in the country for 350+ million people to innovate in such a way that creates billions of dollars.

Did you skip the first part where I said we arent Capitalist as people think? Any one who gets rich in politics is corrupt.

but there is. There is room for 350+ million try-hards to make all the money in the world. 7 billion people out there that need shit, but the majority of America has gotten lazy as shit. My dad is a high school teacher, my mom works retail. I graduated high school, couldn't afford college, taught myself web development, and built a company that paid me and my partner $320k in 2019. Not bad for our first year, and we expect to do at least twice as much next year. Bootstraps - give 'em a tug.

The free market is an illusion.

If it were truly free then employers would be required to reward thier workers to only thier workers satisfaction. Authoritarian rule sets out minimum standards regardless of what the working class deem acceptable, then deny the working class any chance of repatriation through the legal framework.

In a proper free market billionaires / the employers would have far less and the working class more because it's the only way to stop your employees killing you.

"Free market" is a joke.

What about the freedom of the guy owning the company??

Is he free if he's forced to "reward their workers to only thier workers satisfaction"?

Karl Marx was a non bathing,belligerent, racist who in addition to having absolutley 0 economic education sat by drinking all day while his family suffered in poverty. He worked for a total of 2 months in his entire life. He lived off his parents then Engles. Millions of retards take his advice on economics which is equal to taking diet and fit advice from a morbidly obese persom.

I didn't say that the free market is currently in-practice, or that is has been in any recognizable form for centuries. However, the topic isn't "argue about how modern 'capitalism' has gotten fucked up." Untainted, it is the only economic system worth consideration.

>America will never be a socialist country
You already are, that's the problem.
Communism is a point on the bell curve somewhere around nigger.

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If he wants people to work for him, he must reward them to thier satisfaction, or to the limit of the means of the business. He will need to explain why he can only afford xxx amount. As opposed to the current system where the corporation makes xxx billion profit but you can only have bare essentials wage because the alternative is fuck off. Talk to the policeman.

You mean the workers should form a union??

That's perfectly legal in a capitalist system.....

>for this amount of work, I will pay you this amount of money
>okay I've done the work
>okay here's your money
>i'm not satisfied with this amount of money
>but you agreed to it
>but that was then, and this is now
>i'm not giving you more money than was agreed upon
>RAYCISTBIGOTPHOBEGIMMIEMONEYREEEEEEEEE

This is why I don't hire people with colored hair or colored skin.

You forgot facial tattoos and piercings

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No I'm saying that the employees should be free to expect a reward for effort that keeps them happy or proper 'free market consequences are available.

Corporations hide behind authoritarian rule and use it to put thier boot on the throat of thier workforce, while taking in billions of profit.

Profit should be returned to the working class, rather than spent on another 300ft boat or ski lodge in st moritz

and boobs and vaginas.

So all profits should go to the workers of that company?

Mate, you made 14 million profit on that, give me more money or me and Mikey and the tool shop boys will burn your house down.

Boss- waah waaah mr lawyer he threatened me. Arrest him!

Free market is a scam.

says who? Nobody will want to deal with the hassle of starting a business if all the profit goes to the workers. Suddenly, all your workers are unemployed, because theres no incentive to be an employer. You don't get to decide how money is spent. I don't take away your credit card when you max it out on gay porn and whippits.

Yes. One of whom is the boss / owner.

It's a shared effort, but presently a skewed rewards system.

Give up your money now lefties as you are so fond of pointing out the left is better educated and makes more money yes? Then give it up now why wait for your socialist revolution when you can just pay now instead of getting pulled from your tesla by the actual working class you give no shit about.

look, I get it. When God caps your IQ at 90, I can see how the free market could seem like a scam. Granted, you're probably mystified whenever your uncle pulls a quarter out of your ear, so I'm not putting much stock in your assessments.

>skewed rewards system
git gud fgt

SO

lets say a company has 10,000 employees

and profits are 2 billion dollars.

You divide 2 billion by 10,001 and then there is no reason for anyone (except the owner) to come back to work next week...

what do??

The free market is a scam. Your version only works when protected by authoritarian rule... which doesn't exactly make it a free market now does it?

So it's a skewed system, in favour of the ruling and employing class while the working class receive unfairly low rewards for effort.

The left is neither better educated or more wealthy. The left is dirt poor people with their hands out, and the ultra-rich who want to keep them begging. Yes, there are people from all datapoints in both categories, but the leftist bell-curve is a valley, the conservative bell-curve is a hill.

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Why would they not come back to work next week?

>Anything I'm on the losing end of is a scam
Repeating yourself doesn't make it more true. Nobody is stopping you from becoming an employer besides your own lack of ingenuity and motivation.

Have you done the math on how much they'd make in one week?

cause you just use the earth until there's nothing left lol, use entire 3rd world countries as garbage dumps and labor camps

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BASED

dilate.

Because they'd have $200k and either blow it on bullshit, invest it wisely, or start their own companies.

Private law society is the ancap model for free markets, although I don't have faith that mafias wouldn't emerge and evolve into a state.

The only sensible world to live in is one without rules. None of you are smart.

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Capitalism is always more efficient than state planning due to the fact that knowledge in an economy is decentralised in that the individual has personal knowledge of time and place. Therefore, planning and contol of resources should be decentralised for maximum efficiency.

We tried that for a while and it didn't work out. When economic contributors get shot upon entering a saloon, and suddenly the town becomes a ghost town because a significant economic need is no longer able to be met, well... we gotta protect SOME people...

the edge on this one ^

free markets force firms to compete for consumers' $ via low prices/increased productivity. free markets force firms to compete for labor via higher wages. its when some socialist slub brain try to tip the scale in favor of one firm over another that we get in trouble.

homelessness?

Your point?

Every economy is a mixed market economy, some mix communism and capitalism while most mix capitalism with socialism.
If the fire brigade doesn't charge you for putting out a fire you don't live in a pure capitalist economy.

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That there is a price to your mothers ass.

more like crapitalism

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>If the fire brigade doesn't charge you for putting out a fire you don't live in a pure capitalist economy

That's what taxes are for.

So the government takes money from everyone and redistributes it to some industries? Sure sounds like limited socialism to me.

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No, everyone contributes a percentage to allow provision of services required to operate a civilisation.

If everything only happened on market demand there would be no road repairs or space exploration or....