Why can't millennials afford to rent without financial support from their parents?

Why can't millennials afford to rent without financial support from their parents?

Because business owner wants another ferrari yacht while he abuses you for minimum wage. If they could pay people lower they would.

OHIO

Wrong!
Because landowning middle class boomers want to get fat and lazy off just renting out apartments.
Property tax should be ten times or twenty times the amount for any property that currently has no one residing in it.

Because they're useless.

bc minimum wage is $8

>people living on minimum wage deserve to have a 1 bedroom apartment to themselves

>people living on minimum wage should live two per bedroom in bunkbeds

?????

If that's all that they can afford, then that's what they deserve.

>makes min wage
>spouse that also works min wage
>Owns 2 cars and a motorcycle
>has apartment
>both millennials

You were saying?

>tfw I live in Hawaii
>tfw it's so expensive my parents make me pay them rent
who else here /shittyparents/?

Because they are fucking losers

The answer is a little bit of both of these. Boomers inflated housing prices hence ruining our dreams of owning a reasonably priced house and starting a family, and we have also seen a crazy rise in productivity while seeing stagnating wages after around the 70's when it became hip to be a bootlicker.

GET A FUCKING ROOMMATE HOLY FUCK

You realize they roll property tax into the rent right?

>tfw live in a comfy 54* state

Because cost of living has gone UP , and WAGES stayed the same
Btw this doesn t happen only in the US , also in europe ( mostly south europe )

Rent is nearly a grand monthly for a 1 bedroom so I'm stuck living with my gf's auly paying $400/mo for a 10ftx10ft room.

>having a roommate in a one bedroom apartment

Because anyone working for minimum wage is a literal retard with nothing to offer society. They therefore deserve to have shit for housing.

Yes, and property tax for a decent piece of property (in my state) is like 400 a year. Many people list their houses/apartments for rent, for $1000-1500 a month. They sit on it and don't let it go lower, they will go a year or two with that property listed instead of letting it go lower, because they can afford to take the cost of waiting.
The idea is to penalize that. Want to keep a property empty for an entire year? That's 4k.

Because Baby boomers AKA hippie and commie generation ruin their country

Why do you deserve your own room when are worth literally the absolute minimum amount possible?

Is it true that there are a lot of 30+ yr old men living with their parents in Italy? or is this just a meme?

>hours needed at minimum wage

40 hours a week at $7.25 an hour is $1160 a month. If you are working minimum wage you qualify for some gibs to ease some of the other costs.

It says 59 hours/week for my state which would be $1711 per month. Just googling for apartments I can find lots for 500-800 a month in the city.

So this chart is dumb. Sure, you'll be poor as fuck but you're not going to be homeless. And this is bare minimum wage.

No they should share a cardboard box under a freeway.

You don't even know what a millennial is...

you're parents are posting somewhere about their shitty kid

anyone born between 83'-2000

>minimum wage should give me a cushy life
I hope this socialist bullshit will be canceled under Trump.

Every adult deserves privacy.

wage suppression due to immigration. Also, most millenials should be living with room-mates right now, not mooching off their parents.

REAL REASON

*****

BECAUSE THE SHIT HEADS CAN'T STOP BUYING GADGETS, GIZMOS, AND FAST FOOD CONSTANTLY SO THEY NEVER HAVE ANY FUCKING MONEY.

NOR DO THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT SAVING IS.

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>m-muh boombers t-they make me blow it all on mcdoubles and iPhones!!

Sure give them some of the blame but not all of it you self-control lacking pinheaded consumertards.

Notice how states with the higher minimum wages are on average harder to afford rent in.

>hours needed to afford* a one-bedroom unit

>* Afford means can afford a one bedroom unit that is only 30% of your total income

>being able to afford a 1 bedroom apartment is a cushy life

Cushy, no, but for a single mother or working class family who find themselves trapped working 60 hours a week without time to pursue more training or an education, the minimum wage is not enough.

It is not enough for a student of any subject either, unless they want to wrack up massive debt that will effect their ability to spend money after college, which by the way, is a key component that drives our economy.

My grandfather lived in an era where major corporations trained and educated workers instead of relying on schools or trade colleges. I do not know why we have forsaken this ideal. You shouldn't have to wrack up debt for an entry level job just because corporations can't be bothered to support education, let alone provide it.

My father was born into an era were he spent summers on the farm raising cattle. After he sold his heffers at the beginning of fall, he had enough money to pay more than his next full term.

So not all of us who bemoan the minimum wage think it should provide a "cushy" lifestyle. Even 10.50 provides around $18,000 a year, which is not enough money to provide for a healthy lifestyle, kids, or to save up money.

One should not have to spend half their paycheck on rent or work 60 hours to support kids regardless of your views on family, careers, or education

Think before you speak.

I'd rather live with my parents than some randoms t.b.h.

33% of your income is the recommended amount to spend on rent, not including utilities and other required expenses.

If I'm stuck with a minimum wage job for the rest of my life (and I probably will be), I'll probably wind up moving to either Oregon or Maine.

Maine because it's closer, but if I can get by working less hours, that will be what I do.

Why do corporations rely on society to pick up the check for social benefits instead of paying a livable wage like they used to?

My grandfather had an entry level job yet he bought a small home with it after just a few years. Meanwhile, at McDonalds, they give you a pamphlet on how to apply for public assistance.

>a single mother

Stopped reading there. This isn't reddit, kid.

My rent is 668$ a month, and I make the min wage in my state 8.50$/hour I work usually 49 hours a week so about 415$ a week (before taxes) but I get paid weekly too. I can easily afford 668$ a month, and afford my 70$ insurance, my 50$ power bill and my 100$ internet.

All you gotta do is not eat fucking McDonald's everyday and buy shit you don't need like junk food. If you cannot figure this out, you deserve to be poor.

There is no such thing as infinite growth. There has to be a voluntarily worldwide population decline, or else we overshoot Earth's carrying capacity and have a mass die-off.

HUD housing has inflated housing costs.

I honestly only hear this argument from children who have never left their parent's homes and don't know what it is like to try to save money for a future when 1/2 or 3/4 of your paycheck goes to renting a shitty apartment in one of the cheapest neighborhoods. Until you know the fear of living paycheck to paycheck, don't comment in these threads.

O-H-I-O

It is. If you're human garbage with no skills, there is no way you should be able to afford your own place

How about some self-development? There is literally no reason to work 60 hours a week on a minimum wage if you can take a break, master new skills and work normal 40 hours a week but having $10-14/hour payment.

Ignore the first sentence then because I'd love to see you have an actual argument to the rest of it

Until then:

>Not an argument

Every human is entitled to privacy.

That was my point. How can a family member that is supporting a whole family afford to take such a break? How can a first generation college student?

Breaks to "better yourself" and get that 14/hour job are only afforded to the affluent

>Millennials get job and start working
>the job market is shit right now forcing millennials to take whatever they can get, often ending up putting many in low wage jobs
>wages have stagnated over the years while the prices of things have continued to rise
>"God why do so many millennials live with their parents, lazy fucks"

> millennial
> work 40+ a week
> pay all my rent and bills without help

Kill yourself

>How can a family member that is supporting a whole family afford to take such a break?
Maybe you should think with your brain and not a dick first?

>All this rent talk
>I pay $250 a month
I love this state

>Maybe you should think with your brain and not a dick first?

Some of us would at least like to consider having a family before we turn 30 or 40. I don't want my kids to grow up without grandparents and then lose me when they are just starting college.

These people would be in jail or sucking dick if mommy and daddy weren't there for them, and they have the nerve to just assume everyone who makes minimum wage is there for being lazy.

$400 a month sounds like a dream user,
I pay $5000+ for 1.5 acres and 3 bedrooms where I live.
unincorporated county.

I can make false statements to.

Your mother doesn't like taking my warm cummy injections up her pooper.

No one should have to chose between having a family and living above poverty. Simple as that.

its 2 per bedroom, seperated apart if you work for Vail Resorts, but you can work at any of their places around the country or world so its kinda fun. Good for gtfoing the house if thats what youre trying

Then that's your goal, work harder for it.

You aren't entitled to everything.

That being said, these sociopathic people who think that basic human needs are luxuries should really go away and ask mommy for ice cream money

No one should choose to have a family they cannot financially support. If you aren't well off maybe consider not having kids. Simple as that.

Because they live in cities no one except those with six figure salaries can afford to stay. Rent in America is dirt cheap if you are willing to live in smaller towns.

Can you also type in English correctly TOO?

>Human beings aren't entitled to privacy

Mind if take yours then?

hi friends, Dayton here

>These people would be in jail or sucking dick if mommy and daddy weren't there for them
I started to earn my own money since 15. At 20 I already used to earn more than my single mom who worked for the government.

>having a family before we turn 30 or 40
If you still earn the minimum wage at 30 I'd strongly recommend suicide.

I don't disagree but again, the deck is still stacked for the affluent. Simply shouting "work harder!" at the son of an immigrant who can barely put food on the table after 60 hour work weeks and can't educate his son or send him to a private school or save up for college doesn't really fix anything

All that kid can hope for is lucking out with some scholarship or hope to god he has brains.

I don't disagree waiting until it is financially prudent to have children at all. However, the fact is most families cannot pursue both an education and a family at the same time at our current minimum wage.

It is economically destructive. When people rack up debt instead of buying goods and services, or homes, our society hurts.

>One bedroom unit
>not sharing a 4 bedroom unit and splitting the cost 4 or even 5 ways.
>Not also getting gov't gibs
I mean atleast try

Two reason really:

They insist on living places with insane costs of living like San Francisco or New York

They got useless vanity degrees with zero job prospects.

I pay $200 for rent and have no financial support from my parents. Work harder you scum.

so true, I know someone that pays $250 per month for a 500sqft studio because they live in a small rural city.

>I can make false statements to.
But every human is entitled to privacy. That isn't false.

>No one should choose to have a family they cannot financially support.
What if a woman is raped and cannot access an abortion because Republicans have shut down all abortion clinics in a hundred-mile radius?

Akron here buddy.

Why do you still live in America? North Korea and Venezuela are waiting for you

>tfw New Jersey
At least it's better than Hawaii...

But that is my point. If you finish college at 23, have to work 4-5 years in a shit sucky job as more and more major corporations turn to temp agencies to deprive workers of a sufficient wage and benefits, then the best you can hope for is to score a better job and THEN start a family

My grandpa started his at 17 my dad at 26 (my age) and it scares the hell out of me that I won't be anywhere close to that given the current economy. And I have some relatable skills. Just can't get anything saved.

Come on. That's not an argument. We disagree about a fundamental but I wish you would consider my point of view instead of resorting to trolling.

www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/4t48xh/millennials_will_spend_53000_on_rent_before_age/


>Millennials will spend £53,000 on rent before age of 30: Resolution Foundation says baby boomers spent just £9,000, in report that highlights struggle of young people to buy a home

It's all fucked. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

Nice humble brag. Were your parents on Meth and Alcoholics too? Could you have gotten there if your job prospects were basically Wendy's or McDonald's?

>not getting a free flat from government
>working 60 hours a week to rent a shit flat
nice freedom burgers

>But every human is entitled to privacy
Show me that in the constitution.

>What if a woman is raped and cannot access an abortion
This is the dumbest shit I heard today. If she really wants an abortion, no one could stop her from travelling to the nearest clinic. Don't tell me she's too poor to afford a fucking bus ticket.

>linking to reddit
>linking to an article that doesn't adjust for inflation

kill yourself.

Based, who /SouthDayton/ here?

She was probably asking for it.

Because we suck the dick of corporations and believe everyone deserves what they get. Bootlickers gonna bootlick. Trickle-down-economics will definitely work next year.

>We disagree about a fundamental but I wish you would consider my point of view
I do know what are you talking about. You have socialist views but you don't want to live in socialist countries. You wan to destroy successful countries with socialist policies


>the best you can hope for is to score a better job and THEN start a family
This is exactly how it supposed to be. You're not an animal, you should control your instincts or at least use condoms

>shut down all abortion clinics in a hundred-mile radius?

Agreed, this is a problem. That radius size should be 10,000 miles.

I live in Hawaii and I fucking paid rent to my parents because they fucking needed the money.

Stop being a fucking parasite.

>Humans aren't entitled to privacy.

Is it ok for me to spy on you with a surveillance device from a legally acceptable vantage point? Why or why not?

Ive got everything handled except some healthcare bills

30k per annum reportan

Should actually be going up to 35 next month

I think I'm doing ok

Wait, really?

If they raise the minimum wage, shit is just going to cost more so you aren't going to end up gaining anything in the long run as long as you stay performing a job that pays min wage.

Raising the min wage is going to hurt everyone instead of helping. Businesses will always pass off higher of labor to the consumer, I don't know what you fucks don't understand about that.

Why is Nebraska such a perfect state?

*higher cost of

>Could you have gotten there if your job prospects were basically Wendy's or McDonald's?
Why would it be so? There are thousands of openings for internship and assistants where requirement are just common sense, basic understanding of some skills and a passion. Burger flipping is a nigger tier job and a white male should be ashamed of himself for doing that

Why not just join the Army if you can't afford to house yourself?

>Everyone who's struggling just wants gibsemdats
>Here I am in the nice life that I was helped to telling you idiots to stop being so poor all the time!

Georgism is the solution go look it up faggots

>but le just work le harder and smarter you le lazy commie fuck!!!1!!

something I didn't see mentioned in this thread:

The population went up, but, because of the huge collapse in construction because of the recession, there's too few houses and apartments to go around. There are a lot of developers building now, but they build for the high end of the market ($2000+/month in rent or mortgage) because that makes the most money. It's difficult and expensive to get permits, planning permission, prime land, and so on, so they don't use it for cheap apartments, they only build the stuff that'll give them the biggest return. And because housing, especially rental housing, is still undersupplied, rents ain't gonna drop until developers and landlords have to drop them to attract tenants - i.e., until the rich have had their fill.

sucks, but its the way of the world.