Need to both vent to you faggots and ask for advice, and I don't care if you don't give a shit

Need to both vent to you faggots and ask for advice, and I don't care if you don't give a shit.
>be me
>21, still a virgin
>no romantic prospects
>desperate for a gf and/or losing my virginity
>decide that Tinder isn't gonna give me anything worthwhile
>post a few personal ads on specific subreddits (inb4 go back reeeeeee)
>reply to a few F4M posts
>no replies, just scam artists, sellers (which aren't allowed on the subs) and bots
Am I an even bigger retard than I think I am for even trying this instead of playing the "swipe right on everyone in your tinder feed" game, even though it'd probably produce similar results? What do, Sup Forums?
Pic unrelated; tits for attention

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Desperation bump

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You wont get no pussy cause you desperate. Keep trying with tinder, swipe right om anything that might turn you in. Dont act like youre only looking for sex and itll come

Yeah keep going with tinder user. I was having bad luck too. Eventually hit a slut that just wanted to fuck. Did it twice in 2 days with her. Then that gave me some special magic power where got an other one the week after... except she wasn't a slut and I hurt her because I was still trying to swipe while she thought we were dating. Long so try short I swiped for about a year, obly with 2 fucks and then eventually found my current gf that I also fucked on the first date. Except I decided to keep her because she deepthroats and swallows it.

Keep swiping user. As mentioned I swiped continually for a year before finding something worth keeping around. You should have hooked up at least in the first month otherwise there are other issues either social issues or looks issues. In that case get a haircut and hit the gym.

>You wont get no pussy cause you desperate
I sure as hell don't act desperate IRL. If anything, I'm acting too apathetic IRL
>Keep trying with tinder
I believe we've got a miscommunication somewhere. I HAVEN'T been using Tinder. I've been posting personal ads on Reddit because I'm just THAT much of a desperate beta
>Dont act like youre only looking for sex and itll come
I choose to interpret this as "If you want something, don't want it and you get it." I still have no idea how that works

>Yeah keep going with tinder user.
Okay, one of us is the brainlet here. And I think
it might be me.
TO CLARIFY: I HAVEN'T BEEN USING TINDER. I WANT AN ANSWER AS TO WHAT'S A BETTER IDEA: RIGHT SWIPING ON EVERYONE ON TINDER OR REPLYING TO PERSONAL ADS ON REDDIT

You gotta improve your looks for tinder to work m8.

Which is why I was posting text-only personal ads on reddit instead of using tinder

I’m 24. Hey if you don’t live with your parents and have a job, you’re already doing better than me. Just talk to girls at work or something, idk.

Ok don't bother with tinder coz you're an obvious asshole and will die lonely by your own hands probably. You mentioned tinder as if you've used it and didn't see results... hence my answer. Referring to yourself as a brainlet when you're on here asking for advice for the basic task of procreation that is a natural animal instinct. Die lonely cunt I was trying to help.

>if you don’t live with your parents and have a job
Live with my parents outside of school semesters, only employed when at home
>Just talk to girls at work or something
No single female coworkers
Yep. Anything else?

Look. Don’t worry about it too much, you’re in college? I dropped out, I don’t even have my car right now, I literally have nothing except waking up in my room and staying there all day. But this is basically what I set myself up for.

The question I was asking is: Should I have been using tinder in the first place instead of posting personal ads on reddit?
When literally EVERYONE answers a question you didn't (intentionally) ask, it tends to frustrate you and make you feel even more retarded than you already do y'know?

>you’re in college?
Yep. If you're gonna suggest cold approaches to classmates, I doubt it'll work, but I'll see what I can do

Go to where people are, college, parties, bars, I don’t know, and just talk to them like normal. I’m a virgin, but you don’t really get a girlfriend by trying super hard and planning it all out and obsessing over it.

Alright well the answer is YES you should be using Tinder instead of Reddit...omg just open a tinder and stop piss-farting around.

Do you go to a big school? Even I went to some parties in college, smoked some weed, I’m basically a stereotypical nerd, but with roommates and cool classmates, it’s hard to avoid finding something.

If you're that ugly I doubt using anything online is going to help.

Average/slightly ugly females still get a lot of attention on tinder so only the most desperate of the desperate would reply to your reddit ads.

Your only chance is chatting girls up real life to be honest, and it'll be fucking hard. But at least you'll have a slim chance irl compared to tinder where you're fuck outta luck.

Dont listen to these faggots that tell you to swipe on every girl. Tinder will shadow ban you for that

Ok virgin

That’s just common sense, I’ve never even tried to ask a girl to my room or on a date, if I did, it would probably work some percent of time. Maybe 1%

"I nEvEr EvEn TrIeD"

Ok Virgin

Are you even OP, what’s your strategy, just keep ranting about being a virgin at 21 when you’re surrounded by single women in college until it completely consumes you? I don’t think you need to be stressed, just put yourself in social situations, with men and women.

>just open a tinder
Yeah man, just open a tinder and end up with only bots for matches. As if I need MORE shit to fuel my depression

Yeah, that guy ain't OP. I put myself out there, just not enough I guess...

Look at what you're saying user, you're a fucking beta loser. Literally because you are calling yourself one. Where's your confidence bro.
>"I choose to interpret this advice this way"
>"But I dont understand it"
Because your cant choose how to interpret advice you cant fathom you dumb cunt. He speaks the the truth. If you want something that you can physically work for, take grades for example, you can study and get good grades. However, just cus you want to get fucked doesn't mean you're going to get fucked. Communication is something that requires practice. If sex is on your mind, there's ways to achieve it without it seeming like it's the only thing you're after. Girls will pick up on that shit and probably think you're a fucking creep. I can already imagine it, I've seen it a hundred million fucking times and it makes me cringe. There's also guys who have experience who do make it obvious that they want sex but it's not creepy because they know how to take queues. It's thing called flirting user, and it takes experience. And guess what, you won't get better at it the way you're handling the situation. Dont make it obvious you've never been laid and that you need to resort to ads on the internet for weird reddit sex.

try to learn to read the wants and needs of the opposite sex.
watch amateur masturbation porn to learn how to pleasure a woman. will still need actual experience but it definitely helps.

most women expect you to know what they want without them telling you which is fucking bullshit but requires crazy perception and experience.
also, make yourself attractive to females. which works best with actual confidence. how do you get confident? by being successful and happy with yourself. so you'd best do something you're good at as a job to generate that confidence.
working out also helps. money too but being a spoiled rich brat isn't that attractive.

So don't try for anything more than what I have and I'll get what I'm looking for even though I'm not looking for what I actually want? Am I interpreting this right?

>a virgin with presumably low charm stat
>forgoes romance looking only for sex
>considering scattershot methods on tinder and looking through F4M posts

This is how you give off weird ass vibes that scare normal, likable girls away. You care way too much about sex. The only girls who respond to that also care way too much about sex and are usually batshit insane. The kinds of girls dudes talk about when they mention their crazy ex that “broke” their mind into a million tiny pieces. The ones who those beta boys cry over for years because they just can’t figure out why her personality changed so fast, KEK.

Stay in your lane and find a nice, sweet, decent looking girl with social anxiety or body issues or something like that if you’re so hopeless. The kind of girl you actually want to be nice to, even if she’s not DTF ASAP. Learn to fucking charm. Learn to build a relationship with a normal girl well enough to not just convince her to fuck you, but make her feel secure while fucking you. Otherwise you’ll only ever get mindblowing sex from the crazy ones and that’s how you become a fuckin a spiteful woman-hating COOOOOOMERRRRR

>You care way too much about sex
When you're hungry and all you can think about is food, you care way too much about it. Same w/ sex; when you've never had anyone want you, you tend to get desperate.
>Stay in your lane
No idea what my lane is, how do I figure that out?

I dont know what the fuck you're saying to be quite honest but if sex is the absolute only thing you want minus the romance, communication, relationships, character, charm, you will not succeed. Girls aren't like guys. They don't think about sex like guys. You need to be a guy they WANT to fuck and that doesn't just happen because you want it to. You have to make them feel something even that's means you need to be a fake bitch.

Let me tell you a story. This is actual real shit. I worked with a girl for several months who I thought was cute who I desperately wanted to fuck but she had a boyfriend. Instead of just dropping it and never talking to her again like you would, I continued to carry conversation, be confident, funny and all around present myself as the good character I fucking am. 7 months later, after a night of drinking with her and some coworkers she texts me that she has feelings for me even though she has boyfriend. She came over the next day and we fucked and she dumped him the next day. That's how we fucking do it. Sex wasn't even on my fucking mind, yeah I WANTED it but I wasnt working for it.

Listen OP,

I'm 24, 6'1", and 330lbs. I am currently fucking a 23 y/o, 6' Amazon with a fat ass and tattoos that I met at work. You just have to be bold and take shots. Say cheesy shit, flirt, invite them out. If you come across as desperate, beta, or depressing you'll dry every pussy in a quarter mile radius.

>I dont know what the fuck you're saying to be quite honest
Me neither
>if sex is the absolute only thing you want minus the romance, communication, relationships, character, charm, you will not succeed
I know that, which is why I'm looking mostly for a relationship
>Let me tell you a story. This is actual real shit. I worked with a girl for several months who I thought was cute who I desperately wanted to fuck but she had a boyfriend. Instead of just dropping it and never talking to her again like you would, I continued to carry conversation, be confident, funny and all around present myself as the good character I fucking am. 7 months later, after a night of drinking with her and some coworkers she texts me that she has feelings for me even though she has boyfriend. She came over the next day and we fucked and she dumped him the next day. That's how we fucking do it. Sex wasn't even on my fucking mind, yeah I WANTED it but I wasnt working for it.
So should I try to do what you did with the next girl I meet (since I can GUARANTEE she'll already have a boyfriend)?

>If you come across as desperate, beta, or depressing you'll dry every pussy in a quarter mile radius.
Would it work if I flip the depression into self-deprecating humor?

Befriend a girl at work, school, etc. Casually invite them out for drinks. Use alcohol to find your inner alpha and charm her while she has lower standards. Flirt in a joking manner and guage the response. If it's good then start getting riskier. Compliment her, look in her eyes, try to make low key physical contact. If you do well enough invite her over for more drinks and a movie.

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No. Fake it. Laugh loud, smile, tease her, etc. Pretend to be Jim from The Office or something

>Casually invite them out for drinks
How do I get away with that if she's not over the legal drinking age?

How exactly do I not make shit awkward?

Aren’t you in college? Just find someone with alcohol

Practice

>Just find someone with alcohol
Am over 21, if she's not, should I just hit her up w/ "hey, got this [alcohol], wanna come over for a drink/shot or 3?"

Shit.

Go to a party

It doesn't matter if she has a boyfriend or not the point is that I acted like myself without pursuing sex and it came to me anyway because I'm a person this girl wanted to fuck after knowing me for awhile.
Possibly but it has to be done correctly. Also depends on their humor. You need to be able to read their emotions. This is why autistic people are so fucking weird. They dont understand how weird they are because they dont realize everything they are saying make no sense to anybody even though it does to them. Again, you need to be yourself. Acting only goes so far.
Again, some people are good at acting. Some are not. If you lack the confidence you're going to be creepy as fuck laughing and smiling at every little dumb thing they say.

>It doesn't matter if she has a boyfriend or not the point is that I acted like myself without pursuing sex and it came to me anyway because I'm a person this girl wanted to fuck after knowing me for awhile.
I can't see myself as desirable to anyone who doesn't want to exploit me for their own benefit.
>Possibly but it has to be done correctly. Also depends on their humor. You need to be able to read their emotions. This is why autistic people are so fucking weird. They dont understand how weird they are because they dont realize everything they are saying make no sense to anybody even though it does to them. Again, you need to be yourself. Acting only goes so far.
That's the thing I hate about being autistic. The savant skills like perfect pitch don't outweigh the subpar communication skills.
Then what? Just fucking drink? Pretty sure being wasted doesn't guarantee me getting a girl at a party

Here's what you gotta do: Get experience up and become comfortable going through the motions. There will be much, much less anxiety once you've done it 2 or 3 times and you'll have loads more confidence.

First of all, clean yourself up. Get a decent haircut so you don't look like a homeless bum. Can be whatever you want, but bonus points if its one thats up with the trends.

Now, either get yourself an escort, or get in a lot of social situations.

I'm gonna assume you're a poor fuck, so here's what I suggest...

Go to a party, or go to a bar, or a social gather.

Go and speak with a girl. Look for an excuse to get talking, or notice something about her or something around you and start spontaneous convo.

Get comfortable speaking with the girl, but DO NOT be spineless.

If she says something you outright disagree with, just say you don't think its right, or something to that degree.

If there's chemistry, she's smiling, laughing and all that, drag her along with you for the night and do stuff together. Maybe buy her drinks, but don't be the cunt who is the whipping boy/drink dispenser, only do it if you want to and when you want to, don't overly go out of the way to do it.

If you're still really getting along, you can ramp up physical contact, maybe put your arm around her or something to that effect.

You'll know when she's down for a kiss when she's really happy and bubbly when you're around, you're touching her etc.

It will get to the point that if you don't kiss her its more uncomfortable than it will be to kiss her, so do it.

This for me was the biggest mental hurdle when I was still a virgin, after I got this done it was smooth sailing from there and getting her into bed and fucking was easy.

>cont

Now keep in mind, this is a LOW barrier for entry way, don't try some stupid pickup shit that you see on youtube, those guys are like professional heavyweight boxers who know what they're doing and have had their face to the grindstone to understand any possible situation you could imagine.

You are not that, so just do the tried and true method, and put your balls on the line, its easier than you think if you let it happen. And don't get discouraged if it doesn't work, remember, you're looking for a potential PROPER girlfriend, so don't worry if it doesnt work out. You just keep screening the girls (and fucking them) until you find the one that clicks with you perfectly, that may take some time though

Step 1: make yourself attractive
Step 2: say yes to everything. Someone invites you out somewhere, go. Just get out and do things with people, especially if you dont want to
Step 3: dont be an awkward fuck. Watch people, see how they interact, pretend to act how they act if you are unable to function in a social setting
Step 4: be upfront with girls you like. Dont be a retard and just go up to some rando girl and blurt out baby wanna smash. But if you meet some girl, and talk, and you're interested, be up front and say hey I like you, wanna grab a coffee or something. Set appropriate expectations.
Step 5: dont fixate on shit. If you obsess that shit reeks. If she ghosts then fuck her. You'll get laid eventually.

Source: slept my way through college and am very average looking

>make yourself attractive
Difficult but doable
>Someone invites you out somewhere
Doesn't happen to me, usually have to force myself in as the awkward 3rd wheel
>dont be an awkward fuck
Nigh impossible, but I can try to not be awkward
>be upfront with girls you like
Somehow, I know I'll fuck this up
>dont fixate on shit
I have a tendency to do this

Not that guy, but what the fuck dude? You sound like a loser.

Seriously man, I was just like you. You need to snap out of it. Go out more, force the change. Any available opportunity, you MUST talk with someone. If you're at the grocery, small talk to cashier, etc etc etc. As often as possible. You do this, you will get sharp and witty. Trust me bro you're fucked if you don't

I’m with this asshole, you sound like a fuckin sperg. If you keep doubting yourself, you’ll keep fuckin up and not fuckin.

I’m a fat fuck, sitting at like 285lbs 6’3” and I still fuck like champ half the time or when I really want to. Confidence is key, and if you’re not confident then you need to work on that first and foremost.

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This fuck is beyond help

You're an idiot just because you are pathetically desperate. Stop putting pointless pressure on yourself to do something that judging by what you've shown about yourself until now, will be extremely underwhelming. When it happens it happens, till then use your hand, there's nothing wrong about that.

Not op but also looking for advice. I'm never down for just saying cheesy stupid shit. Like how do you say cheesy stuff without looking beta?