Is drawn loli and shota harmful?

is drawn loli and shota harmful?

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Well, it normalizes pedophilia and might inadvertently "encourage" users to act out with actual children.

lolifags are cancer. can't shut up about what they want to stick their dicks into. so yeah, it's harmful to my piece of mind, and harmful to you as well because it makes me call you a cunt. harmful to the person that has to observe all the drama unfold and their mental health. harmful all round.

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No fam. It's fine.

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Actually most studies of pornography indicate that it reduces the tendency to act out. Normal porno reduces rape so deductively it would imply that loli images would reduce real world child sexual abuse.

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What’s wrong with liking sexy children?

Anecdotally the most notorious parts of the world for child sexual abuse (Western Asian 'Muslim' world') has the strictest prohibitions on pornography.

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it remains to be seen

We don't have enough research done in actual studies to know if it does or doesn't. Personally, i wouldn't want it to be normalized just to be on the safe side in case it does. If studies show it doesnt though, or even that it's beneficial since it keeps them away from actual children like some say, then it's free game.

There's nothing wrong with child marriage. Using little girls like whores is what causes lifelong psychological problems.

Is it necessarily wrong to behave sexually with a child, though? Would there be a circumstance where it would be ok for me to act on my urges?

Both normalized child prostitution and child marriage are common in the Muslim world. Though I'm not sure where you'd go to find anyone who cares much about women's mental health, much less studies on the effects of their sexual treatment.

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to my dick maybe

More than likely it's probably a double edged sword in which it does cause some molestation but it also prevents some based on the society that its introduced into.

Just saying not to categorize child marriage as child sexual abuse, as that could skew the results and lead to inaccurate conclusions.

are u LITERALLY this fucking retarded
to not understand mere art is just an expression of the IMAGINATION

youre only wishing and hoping to conduct murder on innocence seems like these art nazis are literal psychopathic narcissistic terrorists upon collectives of mere artistry

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no

in fact, it's good, because it normalizes pedophilia

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Normal porno not only reduces rape, it reduces sexual activity in general. Humans by nature tend to be quite lazy, and are willing to tolerate lesser quality for the sake of convenience and instant gratification (a reason fast food is so popular for example while cooking from scratch is not).

So is pornography that doesn't actually involve real minors harmful to the "underage", absolutely not.

Is it harmful to society though, and I would wager that all pornography is. Its a vice popularized by Jews and there is no question that Western and Japanese populations that are the largest consumers of pornography also suffer from the lowest birthrates, because a lot of guys will get frustrated with the time and effort involved in courting a mate and just go home to jerk it to random porn, perhaps taboo porn just for the newness/wrongness of it which can be mentally stimulating. Most guys don't want to and certainly don't act out on incest, but incest porn is popular because its taboo, just as women don't want to actually be raped but many will search for rape porn to masturbate to.

And yet child prostitution and child brides that are so popular in the Muslim world represent cultures/countries that are extremely hostile to the distribution of pornography.

So clearly there is no direct positive relationship between porn and child abuse, and if anything the opposite.

I would argue that far more damage is done to society by placing limitations on speech. So the same freedom of speech that allows me to lazily masturbate to whatever I choose also allows you to blame the Jews for everything from bad weather to your underwear being filthy.


ummm, yeah. I said that.

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I am not arguing it needs to be restricted, but just that it is harmful to society and laws are generally put in place to discourage behavior harmful to the whole and encourage that which promotes the greater good.

You're also being very loose with the definition of "speech", as that deals with communicating ideas not products for consumption. And in fact criticizing Jews is not a freedom we enjoy in practice unless anonymized like in this format, since it would represent not only career suicide as they go after your employer but can be interpreted by the authorities as hate-speech were you to reach a significant audience.

There's a significant difference between being fired for saying something abhorrent your employer believes to be bad for business, and being prosecuted for expressing that same opinion with the same words. In one case, the person has to apply for another job. In the other, their entire fucking life gets ruined over an opinion.

Fuck off, statist.

Drawn is alright, but 3D is too far

Don't be a fucking knee-jerk retard and read things that aren't there. You assume that anyone that engages with you in any fashion other than agreement must but advocating for the opposite of everything you believe in.

I did not advocate for hate speech, in fact quite the opposite. And no, there is no difference as "your entire fucking life gets ruined over an opinion" in either case, or are you of such low socio-economic position that losing your entire career wouldn't be life ruining? Sure you can get another job flipping burgers, but if you have developed hundreds of contacts in an industry with a professional reputation which is all destroyed because of an opinion expressed outside of work, in no capacity representing the company, that is quite devastating and has the same effect of censoring thoughts (if not more so) than government punishments. And the government will punish you for slighting Jews if you reach a significant enough audience, by labeling it hate speech.

So there is effectively no difference, and in both cases your entire fucking life gets ruined over an opinion. Who swings the sword down on your neck is irrelevant when your head is dropping in the basket.

Also, my point about laws has nothing to do with speech, because as I pointed out loli porn isn't speech its a consumer product.

Cigarettes are a consumer product that are taxed in order to discourage its consumption for example, and that has nothing to do with "free speech" so you can fuck off with that nonsensical defense.

The question is if pornography is harmful to society as a whole, including taboo pornography be it incest or loli porn, or if its beneficial. If its beneficial, then generally laws should be made to promote its consumption, and if its detrimental like cigarettes or excessive fossil fuel consumption then its taxed and discouraged in other ways. My opinion is that the West and Japanese, large consumers of porn, have a population crisis, and replacing the native populations with foreign hordes is an unacceptable genocidal solution. As such, laws should be put in place to discourage pornography and encourage raising a family, using taxation on the former redirected to the latter for example to ensure that two-parent couples in wedlock with children are encouraged.

Child marriage is just institutionally recognized CSA. I'm a pedophile and even I recognize that.

We aren't sure what the ramifications are yet, but when it comes to decisions that might alter the life of another individual, it is best to err on the side of caution. As someone who was sexually active from a very young age due to having an older friend who taught me a fun "game" i can safely say that i dont think it was a good thing to have happened. Kids are pretty dumb, i don't think they should get to make big choices like that.

I'm curious, do you actually regret it, or do you think it was just a profoundly unwise thing to do that could have gone very wrong and had major negative consequences?

Okay so this is a really complicated question to answer. I'm a pedophile that's both spent a lot of time in my youth in pro-pedophile, often pro-contact, online spaces, but I also have several friends who are victims of child sexual abuse, so I feel like I've got a chance at giving a well rounded answer.

The short answer is, while, yes, there are hypothetical circumstances in which it would not be harmful to the child to perform sexual acts with them, but those circumstances are so unlikely, and likely to get you caught, that it's a terrible idea to even consider it.

The major problem is the power dynamic. Legally, children can't consent even if they want to, and this is mostly a good thing. Kids are both emotionally immature, and lack life experience to make informed choices. They're used to respecting older authority (even if they're "rebelling" against it, they'll go to older role models of rebellion for validation), so this gives an older partner extreme control over the younger one. At absolute best, this power difference forces the older partner to spend a ton of effort (if they want to be ethical) in making sure the younger partner is actually doing what they want, and not just being pressured into something/doing something because they think it will make their partner love them. Kids are extremely easy to emotionally manipulate and are extremely impressionable, which makes for a real risk of long term damage.

Add that to the fact that sex is inherently a cocktail of hormones and neurotransmitter that's practically as effective in rewriting your behavior as recreational drug use, the culture of shame around sex, especially for girls, and teens constantly hearing that sex is bad and if anyone older does it with you they must be abusing you, and you've got a really good argument against letting kids have sex with older partners even if they think they want to.

>might

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If what's displayed on a shirt can be protected as speech, so can what is displayed in an image.

based, my only regret is that I was born to early to have a child bride well I'm still in my early 20's.

>spent a lot of time in my youth in pro-pedophile, often pro-contact, online spaces
Why?

There's a world of difference between someone marrying a young girl, raising her and starting a family - and whoring her out like a piece of meat and dumping her once she's too old. I'm not a pedophile and even I can recognize that.

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Not at all, as long it isn't being used in that way.

>ethical
Jfc I hate the modern world, now we’re talkong about “ethical” child sex abuse

I see you are playing a middle ground to rope your point. That is quite smart of you.
Though it is not smart enough for me to see past it.
Loli and Shota do not actively promote a message encouraging people to "act out" with actual children. I would argue rather that it keeps pedophiles from doing such acts by giving them a medium to "act out".

Shota is fine, unless you're one of those sickos that likes seeing them get hurt or raped.

There's a special place in hell for those degenerates.

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people fap to them dying and gore? wtf

We should issue every pedo being released from prison a loli sex doll, and monitor it to make sure he's fucking it every day as a condition of parole.

Keep those nuts drained and we keep real children safe.

Smoking cigarettes is healthier for you than watching porn

What kind of God says "I'm gonna watch you rape that child, but I'm gonna punish you afterwards"

The kind that doesn't interfere with free will.

Same reason the police force will allow you to do it before sending you away to get raped by Jamal.

that hot OwO

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>designs a human being specifically with pedophilic desires
>not interfering

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Yugioh shotas are so underrated

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Indeed

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