UCL Knockout Goals

>Messi: 37/58 = 0.63
>Ronaldo: 54/68 = 0.79
lol

Knockout stages has always been Ronnie's forte. It is in this arena that he's superior to Messi.

add assists

I can't find specific stats but seeing as Ronaldo has 36 overall and Messi 28, I think it's probably Ronaldo

maybe ronaldo's assists are in group stages

transfermarkt has game by game stuff

Transfermarkt records assists differently from other websites. For example Messi officially has the most La Liga assists with 147 yet Transfermarkt gives him something like 170. They always give out more assists than the official people do. Another example is Suarez in 13/14 had 11 league assists but Transfermarkt gave him fucking 21

Yeah, they actually watch the games

>hurr the ball was slightly deflected by a defender, cross doesn't count
t. Opta

>maybe ronaldo's assists are in group stages

Well seeing as everybody uses Opta stats as official and nobody does Transfermarkt; why should I?

"Leave scoring 2 goals in the last 5 minutes while 3-0 up to me"

>tap-in merchant who’s only positive attribute is scoring vs. the worlds best playmaker who sees scoring as his secondary role

lol, Donaldo fanboys are pathetic

I'm not anti-Ronaldo, friend. I just like stats

Because Opta is a service that you can hire,

but they have that automatic system to record touches that makes it so that the dumbest reasons disqualify it from being an assist

You're right, comparing Ronaldo and De Bruyne is a pretty pointless task

Alright; Ronaldo has 14 knockout stage assists; Messi 11

>statcucks

Stats are the only weapon of CR. Just like Inzaghi... Nobody will remember him even tho he scored shitload of goals

Ronaldo confirmed GOAT big game player

does anyone really think Penaldo is better than Messi or is it just people rooting for the underdog and contrarian mongoloids?

Yet both are better than any Croatian player ever.

Cec

Numbers don't lie. Messi disappears in KO games.

It's contrarian autists and shitskins who are more interested in the persona than actual footballl.
Like those retards who used to love zlatan over his shitty quotes and talking about himself in the third person

If Messi scores two hat tricks against Chelsea, and Ronaldo disappears against PSG, Ronaldo still comes out on top: 0.71 vs 0.77

Messi will never close that gap kek

>the gap in this arbitrary stat that I chose because it fits my argument

>performance in big games
>arbitrary

>only big games are these because I say so
>not arbitrary
lmao

>big games
>psg
lmao those handpicked losers will be out tomorrow

nobody douts Ronaldo rises to the ocasion more when needed and is better to have if you want to win a champions league, Messi is a mental midget, but for leagues purposes a guy like Messi is more valuable.

kek, so what's bigger than the CL's KO games?

uhmmmm sweety nobody actually wants to see """"""tap in""""""" goals versus best european teams, we want to see more solo goals and tiki taka tap ins by based messi against leganes and alaves

>you now remember poonaldo's game in the 0-3 defeat against barcelona
could it be considered standup comedy? Yes hahaha

games against barcelona

add El Clasico to the KO games and Ronaldo probably still comes on top

This is only true for last season

Not really lmao

never said there were bigger matches.
I said there were other big matches, like when they literally face each other for example.
lmao

then do it, show us the numbers

I imagine this is some american on a proxy
How stupid do you have to be to use stats, all you have to do is watch madrid to see how shit cristina has been
pathetic

add WC matches and goals to the stat.

see

Ronaldo has 1 clasico assists lmao

It's the leaf changing proxies. He has used

>argentina
>japan
>romania
>new zealand
>serbia
>australia

so far. The argie one is the most obvious.

>having a nervous breakdown because messi scores more than poonaldo in head to head games
lmao poonaldofags have an ego as fragile as their idol

the race to the next ballon d'or starts now and Ronaldo knows this. Messi is getting tired of a year of scoring against nobodies, while Ronaldo is fresh as fuck and will once again lead Real and Portugal to two major wins, CL and world cup

>Messi scoring against Chelsea
give a single example

kek

statistically one of you will get shot in the next two days.
good luck.

Messi @ CL KO: 37+11 in 58
Ronaldo @ CL KO: 54+13 in 68

Messi @ El Clasico: 25+14 in 37
Ronaldo @ El Clasico: 17+2 in 32

Messi @ WC: 5+6 in 15
Ronaldo @ WC: 3+2 in 13

Messi goals+assists in @ Big Games™: 88 in 110 (Rate: 0.800)
Ronaldo goals+assists @ Big Games™: 91 in 113 (Rate: 0.805)

Messi BTFO

messi is shit

/thread

>el clasico

>Messi rapes Real Madrid on a regular basis, so it doesn't count

Yeah look how hard Busquets carried Messi here

>so triggered he looked up the goals and did the math
aayyy lmao rent free in your head la

reminder that messishit would never score 31 goals in premier league and that he would never do it on the rainy night in stoke

>Peptide Fraudiola's Doperlona

>aayyy lmao
>lmao poonaldofags
>Yes hahaha
>lmao

>80% vs 80.5%
you really proved your point with this arbitrary stat of yours.
marvelous.

How is this arbitrary? I included what you asked. You're just butthurt because Messi still didn't come out on top and you run out of big games to ask for.

Finals?
Maybe thats like a really BIG game, aint it?

>let me pick the games I want until Penaldo is on top
>How is this arbitrary?
do their entire career, that wouldn't be arbitrary.

penaldo didn't really come out on top despite you picking this retardedly arbitrary stat.

Messi 3 in Argentina, did nothing
Ronaldo 2 in Portugal, did nothing

Messi 3 in Barcelona, scored in 2 of them, assisted in the other
Ronaldo 3 in Madrid, scored in 2 of them (1 with penalty)
Ronaldo 2 in United, scored in 1 of them, lost to Messi in the other

>poonaldofag triggered
>it's the gypsy
lmao a classic

Messi = shit

Ronaldo = won trophies for both club and country and not spent entire career in a joke league

>do their entire career
Nobody cares about Eibar and Levante tho

Its like you havent watch your team lose every competition since you've been born even though u are "the mighty land of football powerhouse" and have "the best player in the history of thw known world" in your team.
Aceept it; bud.
Hes a wonderful player, but severely overrated and a real choker.

>these games don't count because I say so
see, you're a retard.

if halal had cared they wouldn't be out of copa

all that needs to be said about this argument is that ronaldo had the balls to play in the best league in the world, whereas messi has been a system babby his entire career.

I've only see him play 2 competitions that matter, the 2010 World Cup and the 2014 World Cup

in 2010, we didn't have a coach
in 2014, he carried the team to the final

Uruguay is the only country that cares about Copa America because you know you won't see your team playing a World Cup final in your life, and there's no color register of Uruguay ever winning a World Cup

Portugal won one.
Argentina lost three.
Ronaldo won 4
Messi 3.
So, in 7 finals, Ronaldo won 5.
Messi won 3 of 6.

Aguero will soon have 3 PL titles and is the top scorer all time of Manchester City

if Messi played there, he would rape that league into shreds because he's 10 times better than Aguero

Champions leagues:
Ronaldo: 4
Messi: 4

National team trophies:
Ronaldo: 1
Messi: 0

rest is useless

How about getting KO'ed in KO stages?

Players don't win. Players score / assist. Teams win.

Ronaldo didn't do anything in the two finals with Portugal, so not giving him any points for that.

>best league in the world
>is not the one that has won most cl, el, ballon dor and international and nt competitions in the last decade

He doesn't speak a lick of Romanian. Each time I replied to his posts with the darkest harshest insults a East Youro could fathom; alas it was to no avail, he never replied back. Case in point:

Sa-mi trag pula pe fata curvulitei de maica-ta labagiu de mana a saptea cu proxy. Sa ma cac pe tine, pe Donaldo, pe neamu tau de redusi si pe Canada in general. Muie.

Di Stefano is the GOAT then

6 CL's, 1 Copa America

>carried
Kek, you know thats not true.
And you should start caring about the CA.
Dont you realize that you are not getting anymore chances at the WC?
Better a CA than nothing.

all time goat, yes, not current one

Your mom's a goat, Madeira redneck scum.

I dont care of your opinion.
Trophies shine even if you are blind.

>1 Copa America
irrelevant trophy

If we made it to the final with that shitty 2014 team, we will keep getting there in the future with better teams

Sure buddy, sure.
Just step down from that ledge.

>players dont win, teams win
Whens the last time you've seen a team win without players?
Never go full retard.

>this post
holy fuck you're retarded
lmao

>no you

>I want to analyze a career based on 7 games, but I'm too lazy to even go into the nuance of how they played those 7 games and would rather look at whether they won or not, regardless of whether they even played
k

I watched Messi with Argentina tho.
We saw the same thing. In the only one that he dared to play, he then missed s penalty.
I dont rate Ronaldo either, i just acknowledge that Ronaldo won more than Messi, and that neither of the are GOAT material. They are great players, but one is a choker and the other one has a bad NT.

He didn't miss any penalty in the World Cup tho, the only national team trophy that matters

You know you would change all your Copa America's to have a chance to play a World Cup final

Modric was the driving force behind RMs 3 CLs

He missed a sitter tho.
Well, we made it to the semis not so long ago, i think we could do better soon.

>thread about big boy knockout CL games
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE do their entire career, that wouldn't be arbitrary.

how many balloon doors and golden boots?

2 balloon doors and 1 SUPER balloon door that looks like this

>leaving out games just beacause you want isn't arbitrary
>just counting everything is arbitrary
lmao you're retarded

>knockout games: Ronaldo wins
>big games: Ronaldo wins
>games against Osasuna hairdressers: Messi wins 70 to 1
wow omg you've really opened my eyes, I can see it now

>>big games: Ronaldo wins
his lead is so thin that he actually falls behind if he doesn't score/assist tomorrow

why would you leave out group stage matches?
that's just fucking arbitrary because it doesn't fit your retarded argument, you dumb proxy.

You do realize Ronaldo used to play as a winger in a 4-4-2 with MU?

Messi has always played as a winger. He's main role is attacking midfielder

Messi plays more like a quasi-striker than a through and through AM.
And Ronaldo was a genuine midfielder on the wing for a significant amount of time while in MU, not as an AM but as an actual midfielder.