Should I join the Australian Police or the Army...

Should I join the Australian Police or the Army? The army offers to pay for a university degree if you complete 5 years of service with them (9 years in total.)
Any police/army ausfags in here?
If I join the army and complete an IT degree I could advance into ASIO (FBI of Australia) or ASIS (CIA of Australia)

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I'm not AUS. That said one cannot help but repect a person that is patriotic enough to take up a uniform. So in this one's humble opinion you cannot lose either way.

Ausfag with lil army experience here. honestly there are no cons to joining except constant alcohol poisoning. if thats your chosen route though, id suggest signalman and doing a cyber security degree aswell

Yea, I've always loved the idea of the army/police, especially in the intelligence sector, as I am very good with numbers and have a good memory. The job will most likely be extremely boring but you get good pay and pension, as well as medical and dental.

My degree will be in IT, which will include cybersecurity, which will hopefully lead on to ASIO once I have finished my service.

How do 5 years turn into 9?

The university degree is 4 years, you then have to serve in the army for 5 years (depending on your role)

>should I be a bootlicker and/or a pawn who catches bullets with their body for oil

And what do you do as a career?
Is there a need to be negative about somebody elses choices for no reason?

not Aus but worked with them, you will have to put up with lots of lazy people that complain all the time in the army. they did get payed away more than us though

Pretty much every army job in Australia has got decent pay. Specialist jobs like the ones I want to go into have higher pay, like ~$60k usd a year but includes lots of benefits such as generous superannuation (pension,) medical and dental care for free, and housing assistance.

The Army's a pretty dumb job: always just do as you're told mostly in the context of mind-numbing repetitive shit with a lot of paperwork to boot. It's basically a low-end government job in an authoritarian environment. But yeah, it can be a chance to build experience in a given field, and if you learn something valuable, they'll try to make use of it. Five years go by quickly. You won't get much out of it personally, but professionally, it'll make it easier for you to get a civilian government job if that's what you aspire to.

also get a bonus for x amount for service, not quite sure how it works but its based on current pay, guy i was working with got it while deployed so that counted as his pay and made the bonus massive

the cops exist to enforce whatever laws politicians implement, regardless of how ineffective, unethical or corrupt those may be. if you want to arrest climate change protesters when the oil industry decrees it or throw homeless people in prison for being addicted to drugs then be my guest. same with the military, the people who profit are the companies who make guns and trucks at the expense of the soldier's and civilian's life. if you want to go through police/army indoctrination and be scott morrison's bitch for the next decade then go ahead but note down that I told you to think and live for yourself when you're discussing your PTSD with a therapist.
t. higher education student

Go the trade route rather than some silly meme degree like IT.

Unless you are clever enough for engineering

Enjoy your polisci degree

>higher pay, like ~$60k
Dude, that is a pittance

Thats the plan. Finish mind-numbing service and find an intelligence job.
Didn't know this, thanks.
I understand that I will be doing stupid shit like you have mentioned, but the offer of having no debt from uni is a great incentive to join.
I just completed year 11 with pretty much straight A's, IT should get me into an intelligence job.
60k usd. What do you suggest I do user? What do you do?

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Former aus army fag here. I wouldn't do it again. But then again when I was 17 and joining an inf Sgt tried to convince me not to join. But i did it anyway. Now I work in technology for a mining company, easy work ridiculous monies, it's your life mate. I wish I listened to that army Sgt but.

You talk like a fag, and your shit's all retarded.

just be a tradie

What was so bad about it that made you not want to do it again?
Any stories?
Also I'm assuming you're talking about joining the army and not the ADFA program, the ADFA program doesn't look too bad but I can't find any reliable information other than government propaganda. But it does seem a lot better than just joining the army as soon as I finish school.

Politics or Arts degree.

Not adfa, enlisted, it's a good job/life for some people, but if you're a forward thinker or inquisitive person it will be slow and painful. You'll make good friends, you'll also meet an enormous amount of cockheads and fuckwits. Also takes for ever to leave. They lost my paper work twice, extra 12 months of service lol. The pay is terrible compared to private sector. The only make up is a deployment which is tax free and a bonus. Why not go department of defense or gov route in csiro or asio, bypass all the bullshit of the army. Also the training you get is sub par I had to learn it all properly after I left. And I now rarely hire army trained it engineers or technicians.

The government departments that you listed require a university degree, hence ADFA. I dont want to drown in HELP debt after I have spent 4 years working minimum wage just trying to survive.

Help debt is better than a 9 year prison sentence. IMO

I like the idea of a completely structured life, which is what the army seems to do, I get told to something I do it. I'm pretty sure you only have to serve like 2-3 years in most of the army jobs after ADFA, the 5 years is for just joining the army normally. (correct me if I am wrong)
I would love to hear what I would actually do in the army. (obviously mostly boring, repetitive tasks)

Army if you want too have fun and not deal with the public.

Police if you want to do mental health checks and bouncer work

Both jobs are pussy jobs. In both, the likely hood of anything scary is nil.

Want a proper scary job? Be a bouncer at a pub.

Want an it job? Just join the army. Its fun.

The army offers extremely stable pay along with a structured life.
Were you in the army, if so, what country? What was fun about it? What wasnt?

I just applied for it tonight, I have always heard good things honestly pay wise and then there is a pension after service, you can't really lose, unless you die, but honestly the sand people have a shit ratio against us so you'll be fine.

Oh I never joined I'm banned cause I'm autism. I'd love too though. But unfortunately the chances of a shooting war are crap. Its hard too find a good path in life where you can legally kill people.

If the army gets you a degree you will have a roso attached, it can be extended at requirement of the adf.The recruiters don't mention that but.

don't do police, unless you're in the office

I'd prefer to die than have horrific injuries. I think that a war could break out soonish, maybe china and the USA. I have a few people that I know that joined the army and said they wished did ADFA. Good luck user.
I don't want to join just because I want to kill people, If I have to, I will, but I'm not going in with the mindset of just wanting to kill people.
Yeah, its 4 years at uni which I have read is mostly millitary based, and then you complete your ROSO.
The army path seems to be a lot better in every way. Were you in the police force?

No, I am aussie though. Army is the better option

Imagine being so brainwashed that u think u need a degree to exist in this meaningless world.....

Chances of a war with China are nil. Culturally they are too mild too bother.

As other posters have said, don't join the police, they have very boring jobs, most of the time its social work, standing around, filling out forms, dealing with victims of crime and handing out tickets.

Also learn quickly criminals in Australia get away with everything. No one gets punished.

The few that are stupid enough too get caught rarely see prison, and even if they do its for like 5 years max for a murder these days.

Australia is a pussy country. The army is pretty pussy too.

If you want a hard job work in the private sector, work on a oil rig, fish trauller , mining etc.

All government jobs are soul destroying and boring.

You are best off killing yourself tbh then living in Australia, its litterally the worst country in the west , everything shuts at 6pm, the nanny state is rife and its full if shit posters that get serious on Sup Forums

Australians are also the rudest English speakers on the planet which is why m00t hates Australians.

This guy knows what he's talking about. Everybody else here is a brainwashed cuck

I don't think I need a degree to secure a job, there is no need for a degree to get a job. However I know I need a degree to get into the jobs that I am going to do.
I would rather go into the army. I do not care how soul-crushing and boring it is. I would prefer the authoritarianism in the military compared to just being told what to think by the media, I prefer the views of the millitary compared with the new. Why do you think Australia is so bad? Australians are not meaning to be rude while using swear words and such. Can you explain how we are so rude?

Australians are just rude.

Nothing too do with swearing.

Australians tend to not value individual liberty, take tipping for e.g. Americans tip because its kind of rude when another person brings you food, or does a service for you.

Cigarette taxes at $30 a packet is rude, Americans wouldn't stand for it.

Lock out laws are rude. Again Americans would not stand for it.

Australians are just rude and more accepting of the nanny state.

All nanny state incursions are rude.

The Brits are a close second.

Americans and Canadians are the nicest.

We do tip in Australia, If the service was good. You only tip in america because the waiter is getting payed fuck all, and is expected to be payed by tips, whereas our waiters are actually paid.
>Cigarette taxes at $30 a packet is rude
Nobody is happy about this.
>Lock out laws are rude
Yes they are, I don't live in a state with harsh lock out laws though, so I dont have to worry about it.
>Australians are just rude and more accepting of the nanny state.
Most Australians are actually pretty nice, but have been brainwashed by MSM (climate change, refugees etc.)

Police and Army are prostituting themselves for the elites in power. Fuck that shit!

If you want to do something valuable for your community become a firefighter, a nurse or a kindergarden teacher.

Is it true that Australian army engineers strap explosives to kangaroos and blow them they get close to enemy positions?

You're missing the point on tipping, Americans tip because its rude not too, so they are paid less because tipping is the standard.

Americans are more culturally offended by servitute than Australians or the Brits.

The USA also doesn't have a social class system, Australia and the UK does.

Keep in mind the class system has nothing to do with money.

The stable pay and higher education is a very large incentive, I've always wanted to join anyway.
Why would we waste good meat on that? We used to use emus but they didnt like us doing that so they started a war against us.
Different societies. Whats wrong with a social class system?

If you can make it in private industry, then stay away from the feds.
The AFP needs you a fuckload more than the army does, but you’ll be best in the AFP with army experience.
The AFP is the Aussie equivalent of the FBI, btw, ASIO and ASIS both share the responsibilities of the american CIA and NSA.

AFP would be good. The private sector is pretty much run by china now and employs low-wage indians to do the work. I could do ADFA then ADF and then AFP.

On cigarette taxes, yeah no ones happy but Australians just take shit.

If France did cigarette taxes at $30 a packet there would be riots in the streets for days. In Australia, we just ask the govt too use LESS lube because we like it when they fuck us.

As Paul Keating said we are the asshole of the world.

I mean look how nice and polite Americans are being with the Donald Trump thing , they are really showing how gay they are with that too.

I really hate Australia and Australians. I wanna leave asap. Its driving me insane.

I'm tempted just too fly to the US on a tourist visa and just stay, but I'm poor as a cunt.

The millitary would segregate me from civilians, it would be great. Although there will be a bunch of fuckheads in the army it seems better than civvy life in australia.

What's wrong with a social class system? Try being raised in a housing commission suburb poor as fuck, I am a fucking bogan and middle and upper class Australians are absolute cunts that need to be bashed.

>The stable pay and higher education is a very large incentive, I've always wanted to join anyway.

you dirty little whore.

I was raised poor until I turned around 13 when my mum got a job in finance (had previously been a banker), turned my life around. Now middle class.

What do you mean?

In the USA a nigger can make it big and still be a nigger and proud.

In Australia a bogan will never be accepted.

In the USA a nigger can be influential as a nigger in the media etc.

In Australia if your born in the ghetto aka housing commission suburb and talk like a cunt you will never get anywhere unless you pretend to be middle class.

In the USA if your born in the ghetto you don't have too change at all, aka rappers.

Australia is cruel as fuck too its niggers.

Australians should be banned from the internet forever for being so fucking RUDE.

ASIO is the NSA of Australia you fucking moran
You could also have the government pay for your uni degree without the 5 years of slavery
You seem pretty dumb, so I'm thinking the army is definitely the place for you

you will lose your time in the military. Don't attempt to stay there for so long. You will waste your best years.

USA Niggers are a lot different from Aus ones, USA niggers have been living there for what like 200 years? Aus niggers are fresh out of somalia and the majority only commit crime.

Most of the people I have met accept bogans, can you share some stories about this?
I forgot about the NSA, doesnt make me a moron. The Defence University Sponsorship program looks pretty good but I am still researching.

nah cops are just security guards for the wealthy and corporations