What if Greta Thunberg is right?

What if Greta Thunberg is right?

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life is meaningless and we all die someday somehow

species either adapt or fade away, humans wont fade away


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Right about what? She’s a puppet for the globalists who want to dismantle the mechanisms of capitalism & western democracy & replace it with whatever messed up iteration of enslavement & subjugation they have planned. The moment she said climate change is not just about the environment is when the game was up. What a dumb bitch. I hope Soros & Clinton that are enjoying passing her back & forth when they aren’t renting her out to their buddies.

if its not about the environment then what is it about

Get a fucking life dude. Friends, happiness, outdoor activities. Step away from Fox News and remember how much more there is to living than arguing conspiracy theories with random morons.

Ever notice how none of the discussions are about how to fix shit, but are instead about political indoctrination? I just want to see ideas on how to actually reverse damage.

well she isnt, just like all other doomsday cults from the beginning of mankind till now.
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why do you morons keep using the word globalists as some synonym for they/them?

are you trying to avoid sounding like a tinfoil hat faggot? Cuz thats what you sound like

fair enough

You have nothing to worry about she is litterly a retarded commie, so no she is not right.

According to her and her masters its about colonialism, racism and sexism. So white man bad, basically.

Just pay close attention to the conversations. This about compliance - falling in line with ideology, so the next ideas they present you will automatically agree with. This shit is what turns most smart people off to politics. It works because dumb people don't realize what's happening.

Systems of colonial oppression and muh racism etc etc, allegedly.

Fucks sake. It didn’t take long.

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If ignorance is bliss, then you’re happier than a ma’fucka, bitch.

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she's a scripted aut bot

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>not all globalists are kikes
But
>all kikes are globalists

Go figure, shit for brains.

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Remember when climate change wasnt politicised so people on the right didnt feel the need to deny it just because they have to be anti anything the left believes

right about what?
>poopie is funny

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Originally it was more about not letting fake industries run away with tax dollars.

'I'll fix your global warming. I have the patent right here! I just need a 2 billion dollar grant, and when I run over schedule I'll need another 8, etc etc' ad infinitum.

how can a conversation about climate change not be political when the president literally thinks it's a hoax lmao

>inb4 that bullshit link about her having a Soros' employed handler
you tinfoil hatters are like homeless street preachers

she is right.

go cry about it.

About what? The box she obsessed over for a year?
I don't care what tired old lies a puppettard keeps repeating..

And where does that discussion lead? It's like arguing about what is prettier, green grass or blue sky. It's fucking stupid. I'm only interested in what strategies can actually fix shit. I want studies with real data and a plan to suck co2 or renew soil or clean the oceans.

us discussing how to fix it is irrelevant when the people with the power to influence change refuse to ackowledge its even a reality

One things: It's a way to punish smaller companies that don't outsource production to India and China.

She's pushing eco-bolshevism.

How?

And so it goes - follow your political programming. There are no more adults in the room to fix anything.

Where is the compelling evidence that anthropogenic emissions are responsible for t̶h̶e̶ ̶g̶r̶e̶e̶n̶h̶o̶u̶s̶e̶ ̶e̶f̶f̶e̶c̶t̶, g̶l̶o̶b̶a̶l̶ ̶w̶a̶r̶m̶i̶n̶g̶, “climate change”?

Observation of mean surface temperature on a global scale has only been possible since the late 70s (weather satellites), so the previous data is highly unreliable.

The fucking met bureau often get 48hr forecasts hopelessly wrong, how can you trust them to predict future outcomes based on dodgy data to begin with? The amount of reasonable doubt & shaky scientific method used to concoct this whole story makes it unviable.

The main way to act on climate change is to vote for representatives who actually want to take action against it.

Levy harsh restrictions on local production. Make it impossible for new companies to start up so all production stays in 3rd world countries with slave labor.

She's autistic and Swedish, 0% chance she's right about anything other than being a little child who doesn't understand how the world works.

They won't be the ones to solve the problem. It's also mostly coming from asia, africa and the middle east. The only way to make progress is through technical solutions.

but you understand how the world works, dont you?

I want to fill her with my sperm. Does that make me a bad man? Also, Odo is dead; a Founder has died!!!

Then do it yourselves rather than waiting for the Government to do it for you. Or be a bitch forever waiting for someone else to fix your problems.

Doubters of a giant ponzi scheme wherein rich westerners pay money to change the weather are the tin-foil hatters?

>ok doomer

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your ignorance is astounding. Dig deeper for knowledge, it's published everywhere.

Google it yourself bud. Or do you subscribe to the same conspiracy that says all of the climate change scientists are banding together to trick the general population into thinking we need to use less plastic straws and invest more in renewable energy?

Of course the people who are saying that it's not an issue have nothing to gain! Not like the US has massive amounts of money invested into non renewable energy!

Most adults understand it much better than a child, yes. Especially those who have been paying attention to shit for years. You see the same patterns of thought and things start to click.

What laws or regulations impact that? Can you cite some?

Only reason you tell people to google it yourself is because you cant come up with any link to actual proof, only mainstream media articles shilling

You're being deluded if you think buying a prius and talking with your friends about reducing your carbon footprint will actually matter in the scale of things.

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there are lots of dumb adults out there

>its about changing the weather!!!!

do you guys actually believe that's what it is? holy shit the anti intellectualism is astounding.

No, faggot, the onus is on you and every other moron eagerly gulping down this doomsday bullshit to prove to us, the ordinary citizens, why your constantly morphing problem, beset by things like “pauses” in temperature rise (despite increases in human CO2 output) is not just a scheme cooked up by some assholes to make money from government regulation.

>everything that proves a point that I don't like is lies!

No I just don't think I should have to hand hold you to information. Go look up some peer reviewed studies in scientific journals.

It's EPA laws mostly - I've read about them in the past, you can feel free to google, I won't do research for you. It's a tricky road to traverse because you don't want to become as polluted as those shitholes, but you also need an economy that allows your population to thrive. Not everyone can push paper. There needs to be production on some level.

She is.

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And they were dumb kids too. And most smart people were dumb kids. So there are always more dumb kids than adults.

Let's pretend for a moment that it is a hoax. Where's the downside of investing money into renewable energy? Why is that a problem? Even if it's not causing climate change, there's still a finite amount of it. Plus it would create a new burgeoning industry.

imagine how stupid you'd have to be to unironically believe this

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Yeah, you can both eat shit, reversing the burden of proof when you’re the one making the outlandish claim screams fraud. That sort of malarkey doesn’t stand up in a Court of law, or the court of public opinions.

what if scientology is right?

Of course she's right...

It's really about billionaires wanting to keep cheap labor in shitty countries and keep manufacturing there so they can maximize profit.

With what?
That we should panic? What's the use of that?

>outlandish claims
>the burdan of proof isnt on me, the person who says that climate change is a global conspiracy pushed by the mainstream media

ok lol

and keeping the money in the established multi billion dollar petroleum industries that lobby in America isn't about maximising profit?

She claims she can see an invisible element, and her claims are contradicted by a good chunk of science.

She ISN'T right. She's a child who has been terrified by her leftist lunatic parents and spreads alarmism as a result.

Destruction of capitalism, implementation of global socialism and dictatorship. That is why never any working solutions are mentioned or discussed. Only: you have to change everything and stop living your lifes.

i really doubt that

>kill a giant global resources exploration, extraction, processing & distribution industry
>replace with imaginary “burgeoning new industry”
>and not a single job was lost!

Are people really this fucking stupid? How about the 100s of millions in developing countries that are using cheap power & transportation to improve their standards of living, in the same way westerners did after the industrial revolution & transformed our societies?

Some point down the line, we're going to have no natural resources which is going to necessitate a change regardless. Current energy conglomerates can invest and fun research and slowly transition.

>asked for proof, or at least citations
>hurr durr google it dude

If such compelling evidence did exist it would be readily available, and yet no trace is to be found. Funny that.

this lmao

and no one's asking you to pay money retard. they're asking you to heed the warnings of climate scientists about mandmade climate change.

pack of fucking baboons I swear

Who fucking cares? The West has been pushing complete nihilism for the last two decades and now I'm suddenly supposed to care about the environment because it might affect the upper class if shit hits the fan. I personally wish for nuclear annihilation or a sudden climate shift to come and destroy this worthless fucking civilization.

this. renewable energy is the only viable solution to long term human survival. or at least survival at our current level of technology. that's not debatable. there is no one sane on the planet that thinks fossil fuels will last forever, but because it won't be an issue for this generation, and people are short sighted idiots, no one cares.

you mean just like machines created during the industrial revolution literally destroyed the traditional handcrafted textile industry that existed for thousands of years? Or how the light bulb put thousands of people who worked for candle manufacturers out of a job? Or how automation basically destroyed the blue collar automakers everywhere in the world, but nowhere more so than in detroit? Your argument would make sense, except that you already start from a false premise that you can only industrialize in a non-sustainable way

Well, I am sorry. But think about it: all the things they want will lead to a totalitarian nightmare with a super rich elite and massea in poverty not allowed to have a car, eat meat, travel, heat their tiny flats, etc.
If you want to reduce CO2 emission build nuclear power plants. The only way to produce energy without CO2 emissions and reliable.
Stop deforestation, plant much more trees, fight high birth rates and migration from poor to rich countries.
Put some money in sensible research to replace tech that causes a lot of CO2 emission with better tech.
All they do is thinking about how to make more money for themselves, get more power for themselves and install their ideology, which is socialism/communism.

I have every bit of faith that humans can and will engineer their way around whatever challenges arise. Fossil fuels remain cheap, accessible, scalable and reliable. Renewables haven’t quite hit the mark yet, for numerous reasons (storage being the most obvious), and the economies of scale are improving but a long way behind. The simple fact is, price will always win. Even if every first & second world country went 100% carbon neutral tomorrow, it would not offset or reduce emissions from the remaining countries given how many coal fired plants are being planned and built.

there's where you're wrong. it will not affect the upper classes. when shit really does hit the fan, the poor and middle class will, like always, get the short end of it

Y’all aint heard of a carbon tax before?

No, nuclear power is. You can not run a global civilization with wind and sun. Needs much too much space, is unreliable, is too expensive and also causes harm. Next generation fission and fusiin will give us cleanenergy. Forever.

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She is, but there's more intelligent people out there.
She's just a little brat they dug up to put an innocent face on the package.
Although, she looks like a hairless bulldog.

Not really. The acceleration of climate change will result in a planet not habitable for human beings which will lead to extinction. And honestly, I'm ok with that.

Yes. I'm not a 13 year old child you moron.

This, this, fucking THIS.

Nuclear power is the only truly zero emission tech with unlimited fuel supply (uranium can be extracted from seawater). Small scale reactors are becoming commercially viable, reducing reliance on huge generation & transmission networks.

Nuclear is for sure the only viable option until theres been a lot of serious money and time put into battery tech and renewable energy generation.

The climate has always fucking changed, what’s the big deal?

Yet the green parties refuse to entertain the notion of nuclear power, which uses less concrete per GWh to build than wind power! So much for clean renewables.

pumping this into the air every day has no impact!!!

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that means nothing. you know much less than you think

No one is denying pollution is bad, dumbass, they are questioning whether an invisible gas that has traditionally existed at much higher concentrations, is responsible for changing the weather.

>Nuclear power is the only truly zero emission tech

What?

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>the fact it is invisible matters!


climate.nasa.gov/causes/

Neither is she. She's a sexy young woman.

Unlikely.

They don’t burn uranium you know. The only byproduct is steam used to drive turbines.

Batteries cannot solve the storage problem. You need to store immense amounts of power. This would be extremely expensive and there is no good reason to do this. Nuclear power solves the problem with much less money, space and much less additional problems. Google dual fluid reactor. Nuclear waste is no problem anymore.

She's left.
But still can't vote here.

I'll guess she's a nazi already, no ifs for me.

Bitch reminds me of every other propaganda poster child used by the far right & far left over the decades. The moment she admitted last week that her campaign is actually about "tearing down racism....patriarchy" - the mask slipped, proving she is just another simpleton child fed propaganda to parrot to further extremist political policies.
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This. When either fringe extremist wing of the political spectrum start using children as tools of emotional manipulation, you can almost always guarantee their actual agenda has nothing to do with bettering things for society. It typically a push for political power.

This. Most (((climate change activists))) don't actually give a fuck about the environment, it's just a vehicle to open the way for socialism.

So many brainlets and retards in this thread who haven't ever looked into climate science.

She's right about the cause, but she didn't have the guts to call out the people who are responsible for the CO2 mess by name.

Basically, she wasted the spotlight to rant about abstract "rich people in the West", like a teacher asking the class "who wants to read?"

Obviously, nobody cared.