I am pro-choice, not pro-abortion

I am pro-choice, not pro-abortion.

Killing a human being is morally wrong. Forcing a woman to carry to term and give birth to an unwanted child is morally wrong. Therefore, it is my belief that because it involves a woman's own body, they should have the right to choose the outcome, whether or not I agree with it.

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Baby killer.

You can't argue with this logic you fucking FAGGOTS.

faggot

>Giving women a choice

This is why you're a faggot

>Giving women a choice

No, I guess you shouldn't have a choice, so suck my dick.

OMG no more posts, that means you're stunned speechless by my logic and I win!

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I honestly don't give a shit one way or the other. I don't really care if it's legal or not since they will never make similar guidelines for mens rights in the matter.

>Murder is wrong
>But it's not my decision, it's the woman's
Are you retarded?

Am I supposed to be impressed?

Both murder and forcing pregnancy on a woman are wrong.

Abortion pushes degeneracy and it goes against a woman's own nature, if you abort a baby we should shot you in the head

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I'm not pro murdering 3 year olds, I just find it amoral to force women to care for kids until they turn 18.

As long as the child is no longer in the womb, there is no need for abortion.

We lost the vote on wether women should vote or not, explains our state today. Disgusting.

If she gets raped she should abort but any other excuse is bullshizzle my nizzles

Op I respect you. That's fantastic, seriously. You acknowledge your bias but you won't allow it to interfere with the issue at hand.

If more people thought like you I think the world would be a better place. Kudos.

“If you remove a parasite from your body you deserve death because muh self righteousness”

It's also a question of societal well-being, I truly believe that giving women the choice to get rid of unwanted babies leads to a society with less degenerates and criminals.

Think of all the hoodrat bozos we could get rid of by giving women the chance to get rid of babies and get an education instead

I'm not really on either side of this argument, but curious why I hear people comparing a fetus/baby/zygote/whatever to a parasite.

No one (unless they have a weird fetish) purposefully infects themselves with parasites. Everyone (besides rape victims) who is pregnant chooses to take the chance of becoming pregnant. It just seems kinda.... apples to oranges. Plus, a zygote/fetus/baby/whatever doesn't cause medical harm to you in this modern day of medicine, generally speaking - withstanding exceptions to the rule; and the purpose of birthing a life and carrying on your family, society, etc serves a purpose. Parasites serve no purpose to the human being or body besides causing medical conditions and sickness, and they serve no purpose outside of the body to society as a whole.

It just seems like a really weird comparison. Generally speaking on abortion, if I had a kid I wouldn't want to abort it. Although, having worked law enforcement for many years, there are plenty of people I met that probably should consider abortion and never procreating if it happened to them.

Well said

Yeah, but it isn't the degenerates that abort their babys. It's mostly women that want to focus on career. At least here in europe where every child is worth literally 500 euro per month.

i mean, if you contracted some kind of STI from the sexual encounter, wouldn't you want to get rid of it?

how about we wait until we can ask the unborn person whether or not they want to live or die

I’m in the camp of yeah I agree it’s morally wrong but I just don’t care. Oh some fetus that’s barely aware it exists dies? Big deal.

it's literally a lump of cells in the first stages of pregnancy. Would you get rid of a tumor if you knew that'll effect the next 18 years of your life?

you are also a lump of cells

THEN TELL THAT WOMAN TO CLOSE HER FUCKING LEGS DUMB FUCK

I swear this fucking cucks, 1 million anti conceptive options and they still wants us to pay for their fucking mistakes.

Fuck off

>unborn person

kek

Of course, but that's a virus or bacteria. That virus or bacteria may grow and multiply inside me, causing me sickness, but it doesn't eventually grow into a human being. So again that seems like a really dubious comparison - If a virus or bacteria had the ability to grow into a living breathing human, animal, or other entity that contributed something to Earth and our society (or had the potential to) then I think we'd be having an entirely different discussion.

OP here.

Thanks for the honesty.

A question that I commonly hear used as an argument is how I would feel if my mother aborted me.

My answer is- I love mother, and if my birth would have caused her any inconvenience or if she had a legit reason (raped), I would let my mother decide for herself whether I am to be aborted. My mother does not deserve the trauma my unwanted birth would have given her, even though she's pro-life.

Rape.

using your logic, what's the difference between murder between the ages of 0-18 and abortion

Then why limit her options after the first trimester? Why not allow postpartum abortions since you're still 'a lump of cells' and still an inconvenience to her?

It's not the mother's body. Did you know that the placenta is necessary to separate the two bodies? If the blood of the two actually mixed, they would both likely die. Because it would be treated as a foreign object... because it isn't part of the mother's body. Science doesn't care about your feelings.

Rape cases are so fucking low not only that, but aborting the baby does not erase or "lower" the trauma of the rape.

you re all retarded, the right to live should be above all else, you can kill yourself later if you re a weakling who cant handle life.

Republicans are "against" abortion because they're afraid to run out of child brides.

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So I can force you to raise a kid. Some might call that "socialism".

user DROPPING SOME FACTS

pic related, it's a republican rally

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>contributed something to Earth and our society (or had the potential to)
I mean, ebola cleared out a lot of trash...
Just kidding, i get your point. It was a far fetched comparison. My argument was that taking an action doesn't mean that you have to accept ALL possible consequences. Or rather, don't have to live with them.
Imagine you are driving in a car. The possible consequence might be a car crash that leaves you paralyzed. With rehab, you could probably walk again within a fair amount of time. Would you not go for it because "you chose to take the chance"?.
Isn't life about doing it your way? Besides, with an (unwanted) child, the chances that you contribute something worthwhile to society are diminished. I think you should have at least have the option to make that decision for yourself.
Fuck, i ranted to much. Sorry about that.

What's the difference between killing a fetus and masturbating down the toilet drain?
What's the difference between cumming down a girls throat and killing someone between the ages 0-18?

It all stems from of the literal definition of a parasite

They are no longer in the womb. If the mother does not want to raise the child, she can put him up for adoption.

See above.

It does not matter how high or how low percentage of rape cases there are. It is morally wrong to force a woman to become pregnant and go through labor against her will.

>What's the difference between killing a fetus and masturbating down the toilet drain?

life finds a way

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The woman's choice is whether she has sex or not. If a woman is forced to have sex, she can abort the child. Otherwise, the only moral right is not to commit murder. The only reason this is even a debate is because the jew media wants to divide the world.

If it can get pregnant, is it really a child? Legally, yes. But any animal that's not a human, that's pretty much the standard for adult, isn't it?

Were not the only state that needs these laws turned around

>If a woman is forced to have sex, she can abort the child.

imagine not only have a rapist as a father, but your mom killing you too

I want to kill every larva pictured there.

The woman's choice does not always end in abortion, she may choose to keep it.

I could give a fuck what a woman decides. But the only I support abortion is so I can call their vaginas crime scenes.

Abortion is just the symptom of not needing to take responsibility for your actions. Rape/incest make up a total of around 2% of all abortions in the US, instead it's the disposal of what the Left sees as deadweight on society. A good percentage of abortions are also single mothers, so the outlawing of abortion is justified when men stay with the women that they have impregnate.

The real problem here is the sexually promiscuous culture which is what makes abortion feel like a viable option to those that are irresponsible and don't use at least some sort of contraceptive.

i think if they gonna fuck. they deal with the baby. its not the babys falt.

Again, just because rape is rare, doesn't mean it's ok to force a woman to carry against her will. That is immoral.

It is wrong but it's more immoral to end a life. Letting the baby live is the lesser of two evils here.

/thread. This has concluded this conversation for the night. Please stand by for the national anthem.

Dude who gives a fuck, do you think half of the kids getting aborted would amount to anything? Anyone who'd be a good parent wouldn't even think of abortion. Those kids would just be a drain on society, we already have too many people on the planet, we should incentivise smaller families.

We have too many garbage people. 60% of us should've been aborted, myself included. None of us will amount to shit and are just taking up space. Quit being a faggot.

Not really. Murder implies life. If I reject your definition of life for a better one - one that does not coincide with what a fetus is, than it is not murder. The conversation is now over.

i believe that unborn lives don't matter, because fuck em.

That is getting into another territory. When does real "life" begin? At conception? A sperm and egg cell are both already living organisms before they join and create the zygote.

pro death here too