What does Sup Forums think of Steven Molyneux?

What does Sup Forums think of Steven Molyneux?

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He desperately needs Jesus Christ in his life.

How dose he keep getting away with it?

I cant believe Sup Forums actually listens to this narcissistic pseudo-intellectual "philosopher". He's flat out wrong on many subjects but he's the second Plato according to Sup Forums.

i loved syndicate and populous

He is a massive sophist. All he has under his belt is what a 4th year undergrad at U of T (his school) has, the ability to construct arguments. Again, constructing logically sounding arguments does not make those arguments true. They are just 'valid', and valid doesn't mean what most on pol thinks it means, this is why he is so deceptive. For a logically sound argument to go from valid to truth, you need some magical sauce called evidence, something the defoo man doesn't use.

Also his arguments aren't even that great. He is dependent greatly on the confirmation bias of his audience to create the soundness of it. A professor of mine, who also taught in the department this cult-leader attended for his masters, would call this stay-at-home father (his wife makes the money, he just panders on youtube for d'nations) someone who preaches to his own choir.

The weak minded probably finds comfort in his atonement to the gods of Logic, and 'objectivity'. They like his aggressiveness and admire in how he, unlike they, are able to articulate what they can't articulate.

Not an argument

Stephan Mollymeme be like

Black & White is probably my favorite work of his. Right after Culture of Critique, of course.

Stefan "on the day of the rope, niggers will be turned to soap" Molotov

He's boring. People advertise him on Sup Forums too much I wish they get banned for it.

Did you read his books?

He took the memes seriously. Poor guy.

Back and to the left
Back and to the left
Back and to the left

He's trying to start his own cult with his crazy ideas of defooing and I want no part of it. His talks on Trump as he explains to people why they're retarded are good fun though

enlightened nazi 42:32

youtu.be/eCYn6ijNaFc?t=42m32s

He's our lord and savior

>my professor would say x about him

not an argument

Not an argument

Preaching to the choir about topics on which highschoolers could probably come up with the same arguments if edgy enough for their age.

Also, maybe it is due to the fact that qi don't understand all the subtleties of the english language but it always seems to me that american intellectuals always use a very dumbed down vocabulary just like they're talking to a bunch of kids. German and french intellectuals don't give me this impression

I can't figure out his accent and it's bugging me.

His arguments, no matter what, stem from the basic human thought processes when faced with situations that which he is arguing about. They're very relatable because they're very applicable in real life situations. Very hypocritical to say that he relies on confirmation bias when you're assuming that your well educated, experienced professor would flat out say Stefan is preaching to his own choir and stating it like its a definite response. There's plenty of evidence used in his argument. I don't listen to everything the guy says, but he's extremely clear, concise, can argue a circle around anyone, provides plenty of statistics, sources, evidence, etc.

???????

>jewtube
>"philosopher"
nuff said

I don't see why his opponents call him a cult leader.
He's just a funny guy who sometimes makes good arguments.

>Debunks the hate train rumors about Donald Trump, totally anti PC, anti Socialism/Communism

Most high schoolers would hate him. Weak comparison to young, naive kids with no supporting logic or reasoning.

>"American intellectuals"

Was born in UK and now lives in Canads.

>Uses weak vocabulary

Very complex vocabulary is used in his videos. There's nothing wrong with making your message more accessible to a broader audience, either. Instead of arrogantly constructing word salads to sound condescending. Dumbing down a message, even slightly, says "I care to inform you."

>"preaching to his own choir"

bitch, that's literally what a fucking subscriber base for a channel is there for. nothing wrong with it. you see content? you like it? good. maybe you subscribe to somebody then. welcome to the choir, bitch. wow, suddenly I find myself on the Memeux train. that means I must be some biased fuck who happens to be just like him.

I don't understand how using clear and concise speech that anyone could relate to undermines his arguments.

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SWEDEN YES

Any claim is an argument

please learn about logic from a real source.

No, but I do know about his wife. What is his book about? I also almost read his master dissertation.

Nope. Logic is a reflection of our basic thought process but logically doesn't make true.

>arguing circles
He doesn't argue circles around anyone. If you attended university and had to write an essay, you would see what he is doing. It is the shit third years do in their essay. It is a very specific format of how to structure one's argument, but it doesn't make it more valid (or less) for that matter. The rhetorical gestures the defoo man uses is very elementary. he sets up the counter-argument (but he never does it justice, in university, the prof/Ta grading your paper does justice to the counter-argument; his listeners cant) and knocks them down. This is what he does. providing sources, statistics, etc, and you accepting it without considering it is you not engaging in critical thinking. In academia, the role of citation doesn't make a claim true. The role of citation links one claim to another where it is up to you to discern its validity. The man charms the feeble minded.

His cadence is so fucking weird

He doesn't know how to speak like a human

he's a cuck

Preaching to the choir doesn't mean that people just like him. It means that he is presenting arguments with premises already accepted to the choir. He has no commitment to truth in of itself, and his role to his audience isn't to present new information, to help them through the mess of reality, but to basically preach to the audience already accepted premises. This is why he shifts so much in his underlying ideology. He literally travels with his audience, he performs for his audience and yet his audience hold him to be speaking the God's truth about stuff. This man has a personality disorder. He doesn't work. He is a stay at home dad. His wife is a professional career woman (a psychologist).

What is really fucked about him is that he knows and understands how flawed his work is. The man wrote a dissertation. He has completed his undergrad in history, competed in a debate club. He knows what are the necessity for proper argumentation and evaluation of that according to academic standard but he forgoes it. He knows the standard required to produce a valid claim, he has this criticism I'm articulating here internalized within him, and yet he still does what he does.

But he is, after all, a career-less middle aged man living in the suburbs with a white who is pulling an income, serving as the sole breadwinner of the family, performing as a sophist on youtube chasing after an ever changing audience while his wife is out there, helping people, doing shit he isn't doing. it's sad how pol embraces his ultimate manwife of a cuck.

What about based redbill, is he pillwhittled?

Not an argument

Hi most famous book argues for universally objective behavior and it's a bit all over the place to be honest. I like stefan and agree with him with regards to a lot of his commentary on current events but his politics/worldview is a bit chaotic. This is evidenced in the fact that a great proportion of his videos are close to an hour long when they don't really need to be. He seems too focused on getting information out there instead of actually disseminating it and working out what is relevant.

i agree with alot of his politics, his personality repulses me for some reason. he also sucks jew cock, and is a jew also i think.

What has he said that you don't agree with

another victim of the meme disease

why dont you bring some actual examples of him being wrong/setting up a straw man instead of your useless blabber ?

Loves to hear himself talk.

And I like hearing him talk

anti-semite

>c.f the videos from useless blabber who reside in canada

literally who?

Let me guess. He blew you the fuck out one time after posting one of these long winded comments on one of his videos by simply saying "not an argument" and you lost your shit didn't you? All of your posts end in some sort of passive aggressive ad hominem against Stephan or some pretentious statement calling people weak and sheep minded cultists for listening to him. Its completely obvious one of his videos did something to anger you at one point and you just never let it go.

Based except that time he fucking cried about refugees like a little faggot.

>defending the defoo man
No. I never comment on his videos.

Also I only call him a cultist because others have presented well reasoned and evidenced arguments that he is a cultist, that his cult-like advice has put his wife's career in danger and that this man is a man with shifting ideals, pandering to an audience while dishing out life advice which is cult-like.

>Also I only call him a cultist because others have presented well reasoned and evidenced arguments that he is a cultist

What are these arguments? All you seem to be doing is describing his videos in subjective terms

>not understanding what is subjective
>confusing subjective with the distinction between opinion and argument
>not being honest to acknowledge the bad of the defoo man

ok, the man is Plato 2.0

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He needs to name the jew.

>not cutting off your faggot family if they are a burden to you
>cult cult cultist

Literally all of the videos calling him a cult are borderline obsessive ramblings with no clear argument in them that simply spout defoo and cult while putting up thirty second clips of Stephan and use the out of context dialogue to attempt to make him seem like he's saying crazy shit like DO YOU SUPPORT ME GETTING SHOT? Or MY MOTHER SHOULD BE GLAD I DIDN'T KILL HER or every anti stephan shill's favorite. ONE DOLLAR. You know you keep using defoo as if its the devil itself. I'm starting to assume that's what gets to you. What is wrong with breaking off from a family that is nothing but a burden? It really isn't hard to decide whether or not to cut off contact from an abusive family or a family that leeches off of you.

German Irish.

He's taking the redpill too quickly and the recent happenings are only making his mental state worse.

>stephan

Stefan. Forgive o powerful cult master.

I came when he had Jared Taylor on

He already has in many ways.
He once said the rise of Hitler could be attributed to a justified concern about the growing threat of Comunism. He's also said Comunism was "more in line" with the Jewish tradition as opposed to European culture.

just some chump with a google adsense account thats incapable of earning without running running off at the mouth. he has alot of rage for someone that would ball up in a streetfight

You are being dishonest about his history and what has happened to him. You are cherry picking and you are forgetting how he pivoted his preaching multiple times. You are also ignoring the well documented cases of his cult-like behaviour, cases that led to his wife being brought up of professional misconduct charges.

>What is wrong with breaking off from a family that is nothing but a burden? It really isn't hard to decide whether or not to cut off contact from an abusive family or a family that leeches off of you.

see Christina Papadopoulo

also my issue isn't just with deFoo. deFOO is just him expressing his most honest to himself worldview. The 'no argument' man has shifted and changed and chased audiences as much as the win change direction. Granted, this alone wouldn't make him cult-like. It would just make him like any other youtuber chasing subscribers, but if we consider the shitload of crazy that gave birth to the deFOO shit, you are seeing a man who wants to maintain an audience and one who prescribes isolation while maintaining you shouldn't disregard his advice. That's cult-like.

This baffles me because this man should know that communalism, that shared property/wealth for communal good was alive and well for hundreds of years before communism.

>You are cherry picking and you are forgetting how he pivoted his preaching multiple times

I've changed my mind from time to time.

>You are also ignoring the well documented cases of his cult-like behaviour, cases that led to his wife being brought up of professional misconduct charges.

I don't really care about his personal life. His videos are informative and interesting and that's all that matters to me

Communism works better in small groups because you can kick someone's ass if they aren't pulling their weight

His personal life is so intertwined with his persona, also you should care if you aren't interested in cherry picking shit. And also, when you change your mind, we can pretty clearly rule out the motivation of you chasing subscribers, not that chasing subscribers is a bad thing. What makes him horrible is his involvement in cultish behaviour.

I said communalism.

>His personal life is so intertwined with his persona

I don't care about his "persona" I care about the information he presents.

>What makes him horrible is his involvement in cultish behaviour.

Like what?

I interpreted what you said to mean that the two were similar

Could you come up with an example where Mr. Molyneux made up arguments and prove them wrong?

Its his wife. All I find are huge articles of people who seem really assblasted in their page long essays calling him a narcissist, and yet again a cult leader. Another article claims that someone committed suicide after apparently being "twisted" by stefan's world view and philosophy. Again they call him a cult leader and over exaggerate. Upon reading more the person was just some depressed idiot and offed himself.

Stefan has evolved his worldview over the years. This is perfectly normal. Its why people like him. Its why anons on Sup Forums always joke about him becoming increasingly more "redpilled" as the chaos of our contemporary issues are tackled by him and induce visible anger or frustration.

That "crazy defoo shit" you seem so afraid of is just simply not an argument.

That one was too easy. The guy is simply advocating you tell an abusive family or family member to fuck off. He's not telling you to leave your parents and to come live with him in his anarcho capitalist paradise after giving him one dollar.

I wish I saved the youtube video where he was debating some guy, but he was debating someone and was straw manning them massively.

>He's not telling you to leave your parents and to come live with him in his anarcho capitalist paradise after giving him one dollar.

lel

also it isn't his wife. he listened into his wife phone calls with patients and told her what to do. his wife was convicted professionally with misconduct.

Billy Whilly Red Pilly?

This
Reminds me of pre-salvation CS Lewis

> he listened into his wife phone calls with patients and told her what to do. his wife was convicted professionally with misconduct

I don't understand how that's relevant

sounds like you dont have an argument :-/

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Some of his monologues are aight, don't feel like listening to him talking on the phone with a black lesbian transvestite for 75 minutes tho

Is based redpill billwhittled

Why do you guys keep forcing this mollynoo meme?

You do realize he subsists entirely off of internet videos? Is creating threads about him every couple of hours suspicious to anyone else?

Billed base redface?

I like his long rants, they're comfy but those phone ins or whatever they are always makes me cringe because of the awkward silences and him repeating himself over and over, and those awful analogies he does, fuck.

Steffy Mol thready on Sup Forums

I found a more in depth article. Those fucking claims were fucked. Not because of Christina or Stefan. Its because of those stupid fucking teens calling into the show. Some fucking retarded anarchist teenagers who hate their parents called into the show and mommy and daddy found out. They claimed that their children were "manipulated". There were only two formal complaints in 2009 and 2011. Some shitty parents messaged the globe news agency and complained about their shitty kids who attempted to cut them off. This launched an investigation and you can see these shitty fucking parents just push their emotional appealing tear jerker stories about their children who love them sooooo much get manipulated by Christina. These stupid little fucks nearly cost her her career. Some stupid kids decided they could rebel against their parents by calling into the "ask a therapist" segment of the show and probably claimed they were being abused when they weren't. One of these little faggots even called into the show REEEING about how he moved his mother's daily email pleas telling him she loved him to his junk mail folder. This kid in particular just seemed to be an autist with probably even more autistic parents. There is no way Stefan or Christina could be at fault for this. But shitty spoiled brats were involved and their even shittier parents to.

Article here-theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/therapist-who-told-podcast-listeners-to-shun-their-families-reprimanded/article4846791/