Has Sup Forums seen this? Is it anything more than recycled American Cold War propaganda?

Has Sup Forums seen this? Is it anything more than recycled American Cold War propaganda?

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It's very well made. Recommend 100%.

Did you find any of this funny? You suck so much

But is it "very well made" propaganda? That's what it looks like.
>checked

Not propaganda at all.

Paints a good picture of Soviet heroes who did their best to minimize damage. It does show other soviets as factors that caused it.

Very good of a show

Probably the best docu drama. Thats as close to real life and trys to take as few cinematic liberties as possible 10/10 have watched multiple times

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This.
Just watch it.

Very good. Not much exaggeration.

>workers paradise
>workers get treated like shit
>society still dominated/controlled by politics and elites

Essentially our society as it is, but on cocaine.

What did the USSR mean by this?

it paints the soviet union as incompetent and beurocratic yes, and that this incompetence and pride killed many people. So in one way it could be viewed as propaganda.

Thats what really happened tho.

Ah, knew it. I'll be skipping it then.

Very much recommend. Didn't live through it myself, so i can't speak to the accuracy, but it was very engrossing.

research the actual events you fucking pleb, i spent hours reading about the events post the series and i had trouble finding things they DIDNT represent with full accuracy,

Lol ok fag. Because the soviet union was such a utopia. Sounds like you're looking for propaganda, just not the accurate kind

the show was good, ofc you have to take something of other places, it´s impossible to make a good historical show without doing that. Also, I think there is no mention to americafags who did pressure in the cold war ni the nuclear race etc... but still, worth it.

look at it this way. it was made so well, and conveyed things with so much truth, the Russians are pissed and have decided to make their own version of the show.

its a tv show created to entertain american audiences

Ok? And? It's a show about a huge Soviet fuckup. If Russians want a show, make one about Gagarin or something. They fucked up on Chernobyl, plain and simple. No two ways about it.

You’ll put your fingers in your ears and shout “CANT HEAR YOU” whenever someone mentions Katyn as well no doubt.

IT'S NOT PROPAGANDA IF IT'S TRUE

No, thats not what he means, he means its about the most "actiony" parts of Chernobyl, its for audiences that barely know what Chernobyl is, not people who want to be educated.

Still gonna go with, Ok? And?

If you want a documentary, then watch one. This is modified somewhat, but it seems like OP wants a show that exonerates the commie fags.

Its good !! I got it on DVD enjoyed it !

OP why are you tankie faggot?

I was a kid 80's Denmark with two commie parents and I'm still left wing today, and I say that the American propaganda elements in it are few and very subtle; aside from that, it's just really, really good.. very well written, well cast and extremely well produced and executed. It's fucking scary to say the least, and I don't just say that because I was 11 years old living in Northern Europe when it happened and remember how scared we were then, I know from Millennial and Zoomer friends that the show scared them shitless too.

watch it.

Your parents were commie and you still ended up left wing? What's your excuse?

axhuallyyyhhh.. it lays downs the hard facts and documents the events with accute precission, as they played out and in retrospect.

t. someone who spend decades studying this shit.

my excuse? I love the taste of conservatard tears, you ninny.

Fucking tankie faggot

>Russian history with no russian actors
>Strong Independent Women only competent characters, literally made up for the show
It's alright, I mean it's got an obvious agenda but it's alright

there you go, Americans know one, and only one, way of being left wing; full on tankie Stalin-did-nothing-wrong-hurrr-imma-eat-the-rich-durr. This is why I don't bother explaining anything to idiots like you; you are unable to comprehend and can only deduce your way back to "gommunist!".

anyway, watch the show.

REEEEEE! PROPAGANDA!

>its a tv show created to entertain american audiences
So is MSNBC.

>Strong Independent Women only competent characters
one female scientist, a fucking composite character made up to represent the countless scientists who aided the lead character in his quest for truth.

one
fucking
chick scientist

and reee you go. Why do you faghats have to be so predictable and eaisy to program?

The main criticism with Chernobyl is it has scared a new generation off nuclear energy without explaining we’ve come along way since first gen, and the latest 4th generation are not prone to meltdown because they don’t use steam.

Did you know all the current reactors were designed before the computer era? We’re much better at modelling shit now.

the scientist, the nurse, the secretary
every single female character in the movie, few as they were, 'instinctively' knew exactly what should happen at all times but was oppressed out of saving everyone singlehandedly.
you should space out your text more

>every single female character in the movie, few as they were, 'instinctively' knew exactly what should happen at all times
oh right.. like the firefighter's wife, one of the lead characters, who knows shit fucking all and goes in to see her (literally) radiant, dying husband even though everyone told her not to and then she loses her child because of it.

get over yourself.

>you should space out your text more
why?

does reddit spacing
rustle your..
jimmies?

you may consider yourself
rustled

regards, user.

still went on to have another kid, treated like the victim even though she's dumb as fuck
the exception, not the rule

>the scientist, the nurse, the secretary
yeah, they should've made those characters male.. let the whole show be a fucking sausagefest, you raging homo.

backpeddalling and moving the goalposts at the same time, how's that for multitasking.

the firefighters themselves weren't all that radioactive, their clothing and equipment were. They make a meme of it in the show as if she miscarried due to being around her husband. The reason they separated the firefighters was because their entire bodies were essentially open wounds and preventing infection is a thing.

it's kino

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sounds legit enough

What do you mean propaganda here? Its pretty accurate to what happened, the main difference is that in some cases multiple people were combined into 1, because bringing in 300 actors is just inconvenient. Im not sure what pro-Soviet message you want from Chernobyl when its widely regarded as a 100% absolute fuck up with 0 redeeming features. The only Pro-Soviet message to come from it you could spin is that they had the resources to combat it at all

>Simultaneously thinks women are inferior but expect them to know about the dangers of radiation in communist russia when half the technicians didn't know what the fuck was going on

fucking retard conservative sexists

It also paints the Soviet people as selfless, recognizing the collective good of society is greater than their own lives, by sacrificing and doing what's needed to clean their mess up in a way Americans would refuse to do (the miner incident). It even has heroic Soviet bureaucrats, including Gorbachev, who was willing to hear out the experts and do as the scientists asked.

If you want more than that, like some tankie fantasy that the USSR did nothing wrong and nothing was ever wrong with their society, go to Russia, faggot.

British production...

It's good, focuses more on the accountability and consequence of the accident then the science, but some science is there. I'd call it immersive but not realistic.

There are points in episodes where characters just 'SOCIALISM BAD', but I wouldn't call it particularly out of place because, tbh socialism bad.

Sovia GOOD
Murica BAD

>The only Pro-Soviet message to come from it you could spin is that they had the resources to combat it at all
and bravery, lest we forget. Credit given where due.

what are you, a communist? shut up

the movie never mentions how the entire thing was an act of American sabotage

valid points are valid.

yes, and?

no.. I'm a wolfkin.

Chernobyl tl;dr:

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My nigger. Based and Slavpilled.

still they told he was radiating
i too wondered how this could happen. maybe dust he inhaled?
could not find legit source about this, but i can't speak moon so that's no wonder...

where did they get thousands of tons of boron in like a few hours?
i know they did as that's accurate, but where is it used so it lies around ready to be deployed?

tovarish, I do squat in your honour.

from ur moms ræktum.

Poorly researched on why and how long nuclear meltdown is bad. Spawning countless armchair nuclear experts.

the russians were slavpilled all their live, and yes it's a bit simplified in the series or it would have been thousand people more and like 4 seasons.
there were people that sacrificed themselves and knew it, but being a hero was something in poor commiestan, something you wouldn't understand.
source: i've been living there in the 80s before it happened.

gorbachev was an asshole and killed the ussr.
he just had pressure from the outside as everyone knew there was something. afaik sweden hat alarm in their reactors because there were high radiation levels outside, and total panic ensued because they thought they had an so calld GAU (biggest accident you could think of). hours later they knew "we wasn't it, where's the wind coming from" and then it went haywire.
there was nothing heroic on him, he just wanted to silence murricans ready to invade stupid commiestan.

>Poorly researched on why and how long nuclear meltdown is bad
elaborate plox

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If anything it propagates soviet propaganda. For example it tells the story of how three divers prevented a second explosion that would have affected major parts of Europe. That bit is nothing but bullshit.

question to people that seen it:
the old dude in the bunker at the door.
he obviously did not belong to the circle (anymore) but still everyone feared him and listened to him, like a mafia godfather
who was he, or what did he represent?

i've read about it and it's just not that interesting. there was a film about a more interesting situation that might have had some of the similar issues of chain of command called "the man who saved the world". it's about how nuclear war almost got started but was stopped and the guy that stopped it had to go against his superiors and had his career and life destroyed because of the pecking order. watch that.

Gorbachev meant well with his glasnost and perestroika, but it spun out of control and western backed usurpers (like Yeltsin) were quick to move in for the kill. He could've reformed and modernized Soviet Communism, but instead it fell apart in his hands and now Russia is crypto-dictatorship propped up by oligarchs.

no bullshit
they were there and drained the pool

it is true there was actually no risk of a big steam explosion like they feared, but at the time they assessed the risk to be present and it had to be dealt with. The divers lived.

he was a senior-chairman of The Supreme Soviet who answered directly to Gorbachev and the KGB.

That part is true, but not the potential severity, which is the core of the story for propaganda purposes.

The propagandised story is still being told to this day, and in the story the divers died.

>decided to make their own version of the show.
That should be interesting fiction.

not in the show, it specifically says they lived.

Yes, I’ll give them that.

well, in all honesty.. would Americans trust Soviet Russia to make a show about te Three Mile Island disaster?

"well meant" is the polar opposite of "well done"
most russians despise gorby and a free walking yeltsin would be shot on sight nowadays

Actually, propaganda can be facts.

do the Russian majority miss the USSR?

NO! IT DOESN'T PRAISE OUR LORD AND SAVIOR STALIN!! IT IS YANKEE PROPAGANDA, KOMRADE! HAIL LENIN!

the divers dead is because ussr still tried to silence everything back then
the risk was they didn't even survive long enogh to find the vents or open it because no one knew how much radiation was down there
no one was allowed to talk about his role in whatever he did, most even did know nothing aout risks or where they were sent
so "i had a job in pripjat" meant having a car accident if the wrong people knew and so none knew about the divers
+also ussr needed heroes that did something for the motherland and three people sacrificing trhemselves was a legend welcomed by the party: together russkies strong, no western spy would have done it!

There was nothing with the design.
Safety protocols were disabled for the test.
If they had been left engaged, the accident never would have happened.

That's the sad part.
The failure of the design was that it was modified by someone who didn't understand it.

i'dlove to see a documentary that shows the truth...

It's anti nuclear propaganda. Nuclear is obviously the safest and best energy source environmentally, looking at deaths makes it very clear, but retard environmentalists hate it.

The US has its own nuclear coverups in its past history. Look up Karen Silkwood.

wouldnt say majority but a lot
it wasn't all bad back then, and a lot was better
wealth distribution for example. nowadays a lot of people are fucking poor and some have a lot of fucking money, right under the poors nose.
back then all had a medium amount, more equal
also nowadays a lot of juden just take moniez and bring them out of the circle of russia, bleeding it out

now this.. is American propaganda, lads and lasses. The divers lived well into old age, burger-kun, don't believe everything you read on Sup Forums. Look it up instead.

It's just Cold War propaganda. And like most Cold War propaganda, it's surprisingly accurate. If they didn't have Gorby the whole place would be a wasteland by now.

true, true dat.

so you're saying speeding up tips on the braking rods were'nt a problem?
how about a coupling between throttle and brake in your car, so as to halt you need to speed up, short, but hard.
you wouldn't say that in that case...

I thought everyone loved Putin the Iron Tzar. Also, did you know Stalin made antisemitism a capital offence, and offered the European Jews an Oblast known as Soviet Zion? The conservatives of the west are trying to bury those facts, they wanna paint communism as anti-semitic.

i exactly told what you meant.
no way murrican prop

i did not say they were heroes, i did not say they died
i did say they could not talk about it, and so other people made unnamed men to heroes becuase the people needed that (at least the party thought this), but no one could have known who they were because everything rbmk was top secret, not even the people working it knew

mostly because he makes the rich richer.
he tries to westernize ussr but still have it the russian way.
like "we can do the same as you but better".

stalin was a juden, so of course he was against antisemitism
and he was no russian at all. he fought against them, but power is power so when the chance came he took it

The Chernobyl area is currently safe to walk around. The series makes it seem like nuclear meltdowns are some kind of malevolent permanent entity. Radiation is quite normal. We live in an electromagentic universe. Nuclear powerplants are and still will be our best chance of renewable clean energy. Chernobyl is an anomaly that is used as the rule rather than the exception. Nuclear powerplants are safe. The only reason why Chernobyl was so bad was due to Soviets attempting to cut corners. t.radiation safety officer

>stalin was a juden
I've researched this extensively, and to the best of my knowledge he was not a Jew, and Iosep was a common, Christian name in Czarist Russia at the time. And of course he wasn't Russian, he was Georgian.