I recently stayed in Poland (Warsaw) for four days. Insights: >beautiful, hot as hell women >C cups everywhere >racially homogenous >poor, but orderly atmosphere >stern, agressive-looking but polite men >feminine women >patriotic people >people have a sense of social order, don't like to stand out >warsaw is crammed with UGLY communist architecture >lots of green areas that somewhat make up for what the Soviets turned this city into >everyone speaks at least some basic English
also- why were Slavs considered "inferior" by Germans? they look very much alike from a Catalan's point of view.
I don't know about inferior, but you can tell a Slav from a German. You can even tell a German or a Dane or a Norwegian from a Swede. You can tell an East Slav from a West Slav and then from a Southern Slav. It's just how autistic you wanna get. I'm one of the few people who like racialist without being racist I believe.
>Son of a Turk colony >not racist of course you aren't you can't afford to
Austin Cox
What do you mean? It doesn't make sense.
Caleb Clark
>why were Slavs considered "inferior" by Germans?
They weren't. Hitler hated communism.
I remember reading somewhere that like millions of poles actually became "Germans" during the occupation.
Isaiah Lopez
It wasn't Hitler who made this up. It was believed throughout the racialists of the 19th century that the Slavs were inferior because of their lack of technical and literary achievement compared to the West.
Julian Barnes
The "Slavs are subhumans" meme is false. Pols have made a countless number of contributions to western culture and now their country is considered the most red pilled and traditional countries of Europe today.
Justin Ward
>why were Slavs considered "inferior" by Germans? They weren't, just allied propaganda. Bulgaria, Croatia, and Slovakia were allied with them and there were many Russian, Ukrainian, Polish, etc. volunteers.
Chase Wright
they were just goofing around though
Caleb Hernandez
The German soldiers were unbelievably ruthless towards their expansion the the East, exactly because they considered them sub-human. They even treated Greeks better during the war. So you can't say "they didn't believe it". The Ukrainians made up some things about being Germanic.
Blake Thompson
Slavs as a whole are just lacking when it comes to artisticn or scientific achievement. In fact all euro countries are lacking compared to the big four (Italy Germany France and UK) when it come to intellectual achievement. That's just the way it is. .t slav
Levi Young
>>warsaw is crammed with UGLY communist architecture It's actually dope af. KYS
Eli Gutierrez
Russians are pretty good at science (physics & math) though and Poles too. Also, classical music. Mainly copied from the West, but still.
Eli Collins
>Catalan's point of view.
Are you those catalans that think they are superior and that any european knows where is Catalonia?
Owen Phillips
>Krauts stealing children and Germanizing them they did this since the times of Teutonic knights
>a nation literally made of raising other men's children maybe leftists were right
Josiah Diaz
>t. retard First human bean in the space was slav, how shitalians and sorts of anglos could even compare?
Angel Gonzalez
Age of Empires taught me where Castilla is so Catalonia must be that other part.
Liam Diaz
So ruthless.
Michael Cruz
It was the kingdom of Aragon, Catalonia was part of it.
Xavier Sanders
>The Ukrainians made up some things about being Germanic.
They butchered the East, no question about it. Plenty of evidence.
Evan Young
>Are you those catalans that think they are superior It depends. Superior to Spaniards? Of course.
Adrian Garcia
Fixed
Hudson Reyes
Hahaha
>implying you are not Spaniard.
Which passport do you have mate?
Carson Johnson
>the rest of europe can't compare to the "big four" in scientific achievement
wha-
what about Spain? Russia?
they're up to par with France and Germany, the other 2 of the "big 4" are kind nothing compared to France and Germany
>generalplan ost Literally soap and lampshade tier. Nuremberg trials were not legitimate - even Ukrainian government agrees.
Gavin King
Spain is a lie
Grayson Myers
Interestingly, there are Slavic toponyms and hydronyms also west of Elbe-Saale in Germany.
Nathaniel Sanders
Gtfo frog.
Mason Evans
Come on, I know you can do it better. Why is it a lie? Because in your catalans leftist school they told you so?
Give me some valid reasons.
Nolan Hernandez
>Ukrainian government
Wew. This is historical fact - paper copy or not, it was actually carried out. They even started sending ethnic Germans to the East. Nazi-boo
Lincoln Kelly
Hitler was not invading Poland, but annexing it. He wanted to isolate the well known Aryan population of Poland and liberate them from the underman and Jew.
Ryan Perez
Idk man from what I've seen a hell of a lot of Catalans are SJWs and much less Spaniards seem to be, from what I've seen anyway
>This is historical fact - paper copy or not, it was actually carried out. Just because it is a "historical fact" according to you, does not mean that it is true, or that it actually happened in the real world. It is a "historical fact" that Darth Vader is Luke's father, but that does not mean that they are real people or that they actually fought each other with lightsabers.
Angel Jenkins
> C cups > Impressive
What sad standards you have. Got to be at least an E to actually count.
Kayden Bailey
>your catalans leftist school I attended an elitist private school, with no bonds to the Catalan Education Ministry for the entirety of my youth.
Castile is behind the false concept of Spain. The dumb, muslim-infused population of the lower two thirds of this shit-stained peninsula are moors converted into christians and made believe they are Spanish.
Eli Cox
>New Zeland
Smells like some rotten, degenerate YU diaspora...
Noah Turner
In the Wikipedia article you an find all the references you need to stop bothering me. Nazis killed millions of Slavs and enslaved even more. Their plan was one of Germanization and expulsion of the rest. This is determined through their documented actions. The existence of a plan can be inferred and goes back to the Lebensraum theory.
Bentley Thomas
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Adrian Cook
>Arabic >Turkic Turks aren't Arabs though.
Brody Thompson
>I found two photographs of German soldiers NOT murdering civilians en masse >this proves... something
Mason Davis
Don't tell 50%+ of them that they might lynch you
Logan Nelson
I read through the article and there's literally not a single bit of concrete evidence given. They reference these huge plans which they claim were "reconstructed" using memos and such but they don't cite a single one of them. Instead they cite books and papers written by Poles.
Dominic Phillips
I thought they liked not being Arab. Even the Turkic Turks look kind of Persian though.
Justin Jackson
No, Turks hate Arabs. All Turks.
Mason Wilson
Just had a small civil war to decide whether they wanted to be turks or arabs going forward
Lucas Brooks
Lmao. UK manages to be generally reasonable and not revisionist, along with Russia surprisingly.
Cameron Bennett
well whole east and south germany are germanized slavs lel it was all part of wendish empire and slavish kinigdoms during migrations
Camden Moore
Maybe look at the actual happenings, regardless of books or papee copies, and you can infer that there was a plan, given Nazi ideology and Hitler's stated objectives even before the war.
Jordan Ross
When? I'm clueless on Ottoman history.
Elijah Lee
I want to visit Poland badly. See all the great architecture. Drink that horrible Warka beer.
Owen Foster
>In the Wikipedia article you an find all the references you need to stop bothering me. >Nazis killed millions of Slavs and enslaved even more. Of course they killed Slavs - there was a war on. Serbs killed Croats during WW2, does that mean Serbia was killing all Slavs? Even Russia killed more of its own people than the Axis did. >This is determined through their documented actions. The existence of a plan can be inferred and goes back to the Lebensraum theory. Not an argument. Even their actions conflicted with this "plan" of theirs. For instance, why would they set up the Kaminski government if they were just going to genocide everyone anyway?
Jack Wright
>Castile is behind the false concept of Spain
You are proving nothing here. Spain was the union between Aragon and Castile, Castile was better and took control of Aragon.
>The dumb, muslim-infused population of the lower two thirds of this shit-stained peninsula are moors converted into christians and made believe they are Spanish.
First, Arabs were a great civilization back then, second, Spain became the biggest empire after the arab invasion (so we did not become dumb) and third it is known that little arab blood was left since they were kicked in 1600 and they did not like to mix with spaniards. Fourth, Catalans genetics are no different from the rest of Spain.
Austin Long
The coup last week lad
Nicholas Howard
>it's surprising that winners prefer their version of history I have a whole folder of these actually.
Jordan Peterson
Go to Kraków
Jeremiah Lopez
That's the beauty of provisional governments, you can start and end them when it suits you. You are actually defending the Slavs being slaves. It was German 'grace' that they set up a puppet government, killed thousands and took millions of forced workers. Bit even then, the plan wasn't the same for every country. This is clearly stated in the article. Different for Baltics, Poland, Russia, Central Europe. In Russia, they killed ~ 12 million civilians. That's pretty genocidal.
Julian Allen
Did they actually bury Poles this way or did they throw their corpses in a ditch? This proves my point and is stated in the articles about Western vs Eastern POWs.
Adrian Cruz
>Spain was the union between Aragon and Castile, Castile was better and took control of Aragon. So: Aragon+Castile=Spain Castile takes control of Aragon, therefore nullifying "Aragonese" influence on the union Ergo, Castile=Spain
You are proving myself right, you dummy.
Thomas Ortiz
More about Warsaw and less sperging please.
Camden Rivera
>also- why were Slavs considered "inferior" by Germans? they look very much alike from a Catalan's point of view. it is a mystery
Ethan Roberts
Just got back from Kraków and it was fucking awesome, I would definitely return
Jonathan James
>you can tell a Slav from a German I remember a discussion that took place on some anthropological forum some time ago. There was a guy who claimed himself a great anthropologist who can always distinguish Germans from West Slavs. So another guy made a test for him. He created a collage consisting of several dozens of randomly mixed photos of Germans and Poles (equal amounts). The first guy had to identify depicted people. And what happened? Of course he failed as he classified around 50% of Poles as Germans and 50% of Germans as Poles. So I'm not sure if there's a significant difference between Germans and West Slavs in appearance. It's mostly a meme.
Jeremiah Johnson
You still haven't provided any evidence for this "plan" existing though. You just keep on moving the goalposts. >generalplan ost was real >no it wasn't, there's no evidence of it >well you can tell it was by their actions >then why did they do something against the plan >well um they were gonna reverse it
Isaac Ortiz
So....first you lure them in with a nice descriptive, positive, pro-Poland post.
Then you wait till the end to drudge up some tired intra-white strife from 80 years ago; ensuring that it will be the discussion that takes over the thread.
Parker White
>Ergo, Castile=Spain
Just like Aragon took control of Catalonia. Are you saying Aragon was a lie too? hahaha
There is always a part that wins. But every part of Spain influenced Spain, that's why we are a country.
Noah Green
Ukraine greeted them as liberators. Then they started slaughtering Ukrainians. Explain that.
Let me ask you, how many of these accounts of Eastern POWs came from Soviet sources? Of course they would never try to distort history, right? And of course they would never mistreat those same POWs themselves. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_repressions_against_former_prisoners_of_war That is a fictional scene from a fictional movie. See
Lucas Williams
I'm not an anthropologist, I just have a good eye. Germans have stronger features and a different nose. Poles have a Slavic pointy (upwards) nose, Germans have a Tectonic "harsh" one. Just many small differences.
Ethan Ross
I'm starting to think this guy might be the Greek Furfag.
Jaxson Cox
I don't care what you believe about it being a Soviet conspiracy. The places the Nazis went to in Eastern Europe, were partially or completely destroyed, colonization had started, the ideology was there, there is no logical doubt for me that it wasn't their plan.
Robert Gutierrez
You finally can't refute hard acts of ethnic cleansing in Poland and you resorts to name-calling. Just let it go. It hurts your image even more. Say sorry, we won't do it again. Some idiots will follow you.
Dylan Cox
Visit Masury (?) lad, it's a lot of beautiful lakes and the prices are really low.
Christopher Rivera
There isn't anything to refute. You just keep citing non-existent plans and holohoax-tier accounts and saying "it just is!"
Grayson Taylor
>Spain became the biggest empire after the arab invasion (so we did not become dumb) Royal bureaucrats send their stupid peoples to murder a couple million indians. That makes Spain such a bustling cradle of brilliant thinkers!
>little arab blood was left since they were kicked in 1600 and they did not like to mix with spaniards. Literally half of your language has an arabic stigma to it. People from the god forgotten lower third of your country are literally full moorish in appearance, to the point they get often confused with Moroccans. The Muslims stayed EIGHT-HUNDRED (800) YEARS in those lands. But they never mixed or left any kind of remarkable footprint. Just stop living in denial.
>Catalans genetics are no different Catalan genetics are mixed with all parts of the Mediterranean and the extinct Occitania. Our miracle is that we base our identity and way of acting on culture, not race. This is what you Castilians can't fathom: identity through merit, not through birthright. This is why we prosper and you are stuck with a fake power machine for a capital city and an ocean of unproductive lands ranging from the barren lands of Castile and Leon to the desert of Andalusia.
Us Catalans represent a 21% of your GDP being roughly a 7% of your population, all of this while being strangled and expoliated on a daily basis. And we still survive as a Nation -- and will eventually burst into the South-European powerhouse we once were 500 years ago, when our puppet King in Saragossa bore the Four Red Bars of the Count of Barcelona: Wilfred the Hairy, Count of Barcelona, born 840 AD.
>nationalist defends extermination of local white population
Shill
Aiden Gonzalez
>Ottomans in WWI >Let's join it so we can create mega-Ottoman empire t. Pascha >Let's march our whole army over mountains in wintertime without winter gear >Oops all of our soldiers froze to death >Better blame the Armenians
Tyler Parker
Since when are Greeks defending slavs/Poles? I thought you guys hated them.
Jonathan Peterson
Here, Graceful Nazis take their Polish friends for a walk in the park
Adam Hill
No, they hate on us because they like to finally feel richer than someone and bitch how "they take their money". It's poor man's syndrome.
Colton Fisher
>nationalist defends extermination of local white population You would defend exterminations of Danzig and Fiume, don't try and play the "more nationalist than thou" card.
Samuel Baker
The Nazis are indefensible. You have to either be a total nihilistic esoteric kind of Hitler worshipper, an ethnic German hyper-nationalist or a mental acrobat to support them. It's just that they're seen as counter-weight to liberalism that gives them any credit.
Ryder Torres
Germany as the former part of the Frank Empire was more civilizationally advanced than slavic kingdoms including Poland and Germans emigrated east, and wanted to recreate the Roman Empire in general but got blocked. And why was german hubris big to the point of genocide - I guess that's an issue of the german ethnocentrism. What's interesting though is that german towns asked the polish king to be incorporated in 1454. I wonder if that could happen again, this time because people will want to flee the forced degeneracy on their children
Luis Ross
I assume you misquoted and meant me, in which I hardly agree. Especially Polish girls love mediterraneans.
Jeremiah Flores
>Royal bureaucrats send their stupid peoples to murder a couple million indians. That makes Spain such a bustling cradle of brilliant thinkers!
They had big empires, they were not african tribes you know? See pic. What we did in America is admirable and any country would love to have that part in his history.
>They get often confused with Moroccans. >Catalan genetics are mixed
Basically if you say Spaniards look like Moroccans and then you say Catalans are mixed too, that means you look Moroccan too ;)
>This is what you Castilians can't fathom >Implying I'm Castilian.
I'm Valencian, We contributed more to "Catalan" than you.
>being roughly a 7% of your population
Catalonia 7.5 million, Spain 46 millions. That's 16% of the population, learn maths.
>South-European powerhouse we once were 500 years ago
You mean the kingdom of Aragon? Because Catalonia was not independent back then.
Visca la nostra terra, Espanya.
Xavier Taylor
I'm mainly talking about Sup Forums poster. Irl it's neutral. We don't hate them though, Poles in Greece were good immigrants. I'm not a big fan of the Eastern Slav, but South & West are cool. Some Greeks are suckers for Russia though.
Carson Murphy
Aragon never took control of Catalonia, it was the other way around in any case.
The same way that Spain = Aragon crown + Castillian crown
Aragon CROWN was Catalan Counties + Aragon KINGDOM
It was a Catalan male (Berenguer IV) who married an Aragonese loli (Petronila de Aragón) and gave birth to dynasty of the Crown of Aragon that ruled the Mediterranean for centuries.
And Catalonia was always more populated, rich and influential than the original Aragonese kingdom, this is why they also colonized more of the future conquered lands, they also weren't landlocked and had a port and an important merchantile fleet, why the it was called Crown of Aragon and not Crown of Catalonia? Because Catalonia was literally a rogue part of France that broke vassalage from the French King giving him a big fuck and goodbye, and after their independence they never elected a King, but a Princeps, they had a semi-democratic government ruled by Nobles and Counts, but by Nobiliary rule the name of a Kingdom prevails over the name of a Principality or a County, so after the union the name of Aragon prevailed by order. The Aragonese Crown was in any case ruled by Catalans, and their kings talked and wrote in Catalan too, for example the King James the Conqueror, who conquered Mallorca and Valencia, wrote the "Llibre dels feits" entirely in Catalan and not in Aragonese, even big chunks of today Aragon community are inhabited by Catalan-Speakers (La Franja).
But I bet they didn't teach you that in your Madrid school.
Ayden Morgan
I agree with this, yet many fellow brits have no problem with british niggers who are plain and simple the plague of UK and they want to kick out polish people who in their majority are here to work and contribute to UK economy, while british niggers are only good at leeching the system and occupy william hill, wish lynching was legal.
Joshua Anderson
Well.
Isaiah Turner
So it seems that a country/kingdom is only a lie when it doesn't suit you, right? When Catalonia rules it's not a lie, but when others rule it's a lie.
I'm proud of what Aragon did and proud of what Castile did. Why can't you be proud too? I'm sure that you have Castile blood in your genetics.
>Madrid school.
Again I'm from Valencia mate. And yes I studied about James, my name is James too.
Jeremiah Morales
>Polish >volunteers No really.
Robert Anderson
>They had big empires, they were not african tribes you know? You are missing my point. Killing indians with guns does not make a civilization great, on the contrary, it makes it morally miserable.
>What we did in America is admirable and any country would love to have that part in his history. Are you a psychopath
>Basically if you say Spaniards look like Moroccans and then you say Catalans are mixed too, that means you look Moroccan too Interesting attempt at comparing 800 years of Muslim rule to a constant interflux with countless Mediterranean cultures in Catalonia
>;) ...
>I'm Valencian The mystery of your devotion towards your Castillian master's cock ways has been instantly solved
>We contributed more to "Catalan" >"Catalan" >"" Your forefathers spoke Catalan even if they hated to, and we created you and saved you from your dear Arabic tyrants. So stay mad at your eternal creators of the north.
>That's 16% of the population You're right
>Hahaha see this. >elmundo.es bitch please
>Catalonia was not independent back then. We had our own coin, laws, flag, army, count. We just didn't show in the maps for specific political reasons.
>Visca la nostra terra, Espanya. You Valencians are a tribe of slaves, eternally bound to a greater power and lacking in any self-respect. Our common language is dead in your territory since it is inexistant in the big cities and relevant public life.
Enjoy your petty existance as the cheap whore of Castile.
