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>this is what right-wing Libertarians actually believe
>muh "right-wing is pure individualism, left-wing is pure collectivism"

>Thia aquare does not esist

What the fuck is an aquare you drunk fuck?

I fucked it up.

My point still stands.

>burger
checks out

I'm radical, dead center centrist.

That's the hilarity of the obvious relativity involved, because if you ask anyone in the green green quadrant they're going to portray the red quadrant as blue, which is the opposite of your criticism.

And then it gets even more complicated with how red quadrant people will portray green quadrant people as enablers of blue and purple, and so on.

And this only describes the situation from 2 dimensions.

>green + green = green*

And I just realized that said red quadrant and I meant purple in the second line.

My picture is still appropriate.

>I'm radical, dead centre centrist.

How does it feel having absolutely no strong opinions, you bland, bland man?

>Centrist.
>A man so neutral in life and politic, he considers sprinkles on his vanilla ice cream too radical.

Feels like cognitive dissonance yo.

I'm empathetic to multiple perspectives, because I'm convinced that I'm an idiot.

How does it feel having the solution to everything and always being right even when everyone tells you to fuck off?

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me

I don't think I have the solution to everything.

I actually think Leftists are right about soft drug use and abuses of power in some cases.

But I also have strong opinions. I'm not a "maybe I'll go Left today" or "maybe I'll go right today" kind of guy.

Me

Right-Libertarians are such fedoras at times.

I do have strong opinions, but I quite find the division between party lines to be inconsistent, at least in America.

For example, I support free speech and the right to take pride in one's race and pursue one's own interests, creating the conflict between quadrants that you're all complaining about.

fuck you

> I support free speech and the right to take pride in one's race and pursue one's own interests,

You can achieve all of that in the blue quadrant if you don't go too far up on the authoritarian scale.

>if
There's your problem.

>You have the freedom to do whatever you want, as long as you don't call for more government control of everyone or try to get them to take my money, but due to the lack of government control I'm afraid of I can't stop you from doing it.
Feels like cognitive dissonance yo.

kek however I guess B90/Die Grünen would consider themselves as liberal lefties

> or try to get them to take my money

Right-wing governments don't do this.

Thing is, I don't actually believe government is real.

I just see another corporation which serves up empty gestures in exchange for exclusive privilege.

I'm not an 'anarchist', but all I see is anarchy.

I must be an idiot, because everyone else thinks calling this mafia "government" actually changes the nature of the situation.

Right wing libertarians cannot stop people from voting for left wing policies.

That's the point.

Wow, you're so insightful!

Not edgy at all!

I don't understand what's edgy about that.

Describe the situation to me in a matter which will help me believe government exists.

(sage)
manner

>Describe the situation to me in a matter which will help me believe government exists.

People democratically elect a group of people that enforce the law and enact social and sometimes economic policy designed to best deserve the people.

If you are dissatisfied with a government, you can vote them out of power.

That's how it works.

What do you mean 'convince you government exists'? It very clearly does.

>People democratically elect a group of people that enforce the law and enact social and sometimes economic policy designed to best deserve the people.
Just because people want the mafia to work toward their interests doesn't make it "government". It just makes it a successful mafia.

There's no use talking to AnCaps on this.
I've tried so many times, but you refuse to see the clear difference.

You guys are just completely unreasonable.

If you don't like the laws of the land that much, then leave.

I'm not anarcho-anything.

I'd love for God to rip a hole in the sky and make everything wonderful for everyone with his divine authority and solve all our problems and we all lived happily ever after.

I don't even have a problem with existing laws, you're projecting that into the situation because I'm forcing you to acknowledge that the power of government lies only in the collective belief that it does. Were that collective belief to be dismantled, 'government' would stop existing, and we'd just refer to the situation as it really is.

Whats this mean?

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You don't give a shit about the economy and just think people should be able to do whatever they want.

Your not wrong

Went ahead and made this to explain how anyone too close to the edges is a retard.

Also, if you're not a government, you should be below the authoritarian line.

It's their job to take away your rights if they can get away with it, but it's your job to resist that shit instead of cheering for it like a dope.

>if you're not a government, you should be below the authoritarian line.

Not necessarily. Nothing wrong with being in the blue quadrant as long as you're not too far up the authoritarian scale.

What's wrong with wanting some social order and some reactionary ideas?

To reiterate what I said a minute ago:
>I'm not an 'anarchist', but all I see is anarchy.
Believing that government is actually governing anything is ridiculous. The government clearly isn't stopping niggers from killing people, nor are they putting up a hell of a lot of resistance to being infiltrated by socialists.

It's a free-for-all, with everyone putting their cognitive efforts into a ballot and virtue signaling each other about all the values they stand for, while the mafia is quite obviously not concerned with the complaints of the people when they manage to fuck up the exclusive privilege they are charged with.

So we sit around blaming Jews, and complaining about King Nigger, blaming each other when the whole problem was the power structure that everyone is fighting for control that they don't actually even have over anyone.

It's irony. I comply with the mafia because I'm not even mad, but that doesn't mean I'm going to pretend that I could never tell them to eat shit.

Nobody ever cheers to have *their* freedom restricted. They only ever cheer to restrict *yours*.

Are you a reader of Michel Foucault?

Your way of arguing sounds kind of similar to his.

>Nobody ever cheers to have *their* freedom restricted. They only ever cheer to restrict *yours*.
This. But what goes around comes around, if you go around clamoring to have freedom restricted you will contribute to an environment that will cause you to lose something you care about one day.

Generally I see it this way: If your IQ is lower than 100, you can move diagonally down towards caveman-mode and that's understandable because you don't know any better.

The smarter you are, the closer you should be edging towards Illuminati-mode. HOWEVER, that comes with the caveat that you actually be superior to the average person in some way whether it be intelligence, education, wealth, power, etc. If you're in that tier and not some form of elite, you're basically the moron sheep class letting your betters fuck you in the anus without even realizing it.

Peasants should stay in the lower left where they belong instead of roleplaying an ideology above their station. That's how the world stays balanced.

No. I rarely read any exclusively political literature.

But this:
>What's wrong with wanting some social order and some reactionary ideas?
All of my lulz.
Government's gonna do that for you eh?

Well, my IQ is above 100. I would consider myself more intelligent than the average person, not to sound cocky or anything.

Well, yes. It has done it in the past.

Do you not agree with border controls or enforcing some Conservative or reactionary values?

Because right now that's the only way I see of saving Europe.

The way you're speaking to me makes me think you think I'm some sort of totalitarian.

>It has done it in the past.
So how come it doesn't anymore?

It does. except now it's on the side of the regressive Left, or have you not been reading the news the last 5 years?

>Do you not agree with border controls or enforcing some Conservative or reactionary values?
I don't care. I already told you I'm a radical centrist. I spend less time worrying about how things should be and more time worrying about how things are.

See pic attached here: That doesn't mean I don't empathize with your concerns, but sometimes I have concerns about your priorities in the presence of those with alternative ideals.

So basically what you're saying is that..

it didn't.

I thought I'd be further down desu but I guess not liking gays adopting children means you can't possibly be purple

(sage)
Just to bring up an example:
You're a right wing conservative who wants a return to traditional values.

And you're rallying on about them on a containment board in a website where users exchange pictures of teenaged boys dressed in women's clothes.

That's what computers gave us. The anonymity which keeps you from being fired for your job because you said "nigger" in a public setting is the same anonymity that keeps you from knowing if your employees are voting to support gay marriage.

Computers are a gift from capitalism. The manufacturers don't actually give a shit if you exchange pirated media with it, they just want the money so they can buy a computer of their own to say "GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW" in secret on Sup Forums.

If you're so concerned with traditional values then maybe you should consider not participating in the economy, because the economy clearly enables what you're trying to prevent.

I admire the consistency of the Amish in both their willingness to adhere to traditional values and their unwillingness to participate in the cash grab.

They are doing this whole conservative thing properly, and everyone gets a chance to go see what "gifts" technology has given us.