Hur dur guns aren't the problem. This happens in every country

Hur dur guns aren't the problem. This happens in every country.

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>an unsourced picture should dictate public policy

Google "Tehama" retard. I guess shootings are so common you don't even hear about them anymore

>Hur dur guns aren't the problem.
They are not.
Americans are just incredibly violent retards due to the hostile environment they grow up in and the fact that the government dumps toxic pollutants into the water supply.

Take away their guns, they'll grab gardening tools and start hacking themselves to death.

anyone can get an illegal gun

This, the problem is not the guns, Americans are the problem

We have to find a solution for the mutt problem

>"do my work for me"
no, fuck off and kill yourself

intelligent post

I remember that thread bretty good desu

>murrican mutts claim spics are violent
>chill-e has a lower murder rate than the US

Hue, americans are simply fat savages

>maybe if i don't check the news it didn't happen

Why do mass shooting always seem to ramp up towards the end of the year? Or is that just me spending more time online/ reading the news during this time?

>americans killing americans
Don't see a problem tbqh
I actively encourage americans ITT to purchase firearms and the indiscriminately kill their fellow american.

>Take away their guns, they'll grab gardening tools

Yes and then they're use their hose and shovel to kill 50 concert goers from an apartment window, right?

>Don't make changes unless it eliminates crime entirely, who cares if it lowers deaths

Which side was at fault this time?
>tfw hoping it's not mine

Wasn't it a gun free area?

If lowering deaths is your concern let's start with banning the actual killer - motor vehicles.

No. At least half the first graders were packing heat sources say.

No but they could rent a uhaul, fill it with fertilizer, and blow it up.

Be sure to bin that knife user
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Freedom ain't free. The tree of liberty gotta be littered with the dead bodies of 5 year olds. Praise Jesus

I love the constitution and support the second amendment but this comparison will never stop being youtube comment tier retarded.

What makes you think criminals would stop having guns somehow? As well as illegal means of obtaining them for anyone?

Its cali they are stricter then fucking Canada and most of Europe

>Americans are just incredibly violent retards
Americans doesn't had a world wars and other wars on their turf.

Why doesn't this happen in the countries in Europe that have high gun ownership as well then?

Freedom ain't free. The tree of liberty gotta be littered with the dead bodies of 5 year olds. Praise Jesus

Funny you should bring up fertilizer. It has been heavily controlled in the US since 1994 and an individual suddenly buying a large amount of fertilizer instantly lands him on a federal watch list/partyvan invitation list. There's a reason why there hasn't been a fertilizer bomb attack in the US since oklaholma city bombing even though it's one of the most cost effective ways to kill people.

what's the deal with america flags thinking this is Sup Forums?

Putting guns a side, when you are gonna make something with your health care system? These "shooters" are just psychos, and you should have specalist taking care of them

*Flies plane into building*
*Detonates bomb*
*Sprays crowd with sulphuric acid*
*Drives truck into convert*
*Stabs a dozen people*
Wow, thanks Canada! You've figured out the true and final solution to mentally ill-people causing large numbers of fatalities

My point is people will find a way to murder people if they want to murder people. Trying to reduce the ways in which people can do that is just a waste of money that could be spent addressing other issues, like why people want to murder each other so much.

Guns are certantly not the problem.
It is almost impossible to legally get a gun in Brazil, but I don't think any of you are going to argue about our murder rate.

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The fertilizer watch list wasn't a waste of money though. It has clearly worked.

Guns aren't hard to come by over here (2nd or 3rd largest amount of guns per capita in europe) but still hard enough for allahu snackbars to consider using them, and our only terror attacker managed a whopping 2 kills. You can draw your own conclusions from that.

1) Schools already have gun control and in fact guns are banned in schools. (Gun free zone) Turns out criminals don't give a shit about gun control or gun bans or gun free zones anymore than they care about bans on drugs.

2) Who gives a shit? These same retard go-nowhere threads get posted every time. Mass shootings aren't going away until you do something about it, and "do something" doesn't mean "bitch on the internet" (unfortunately for you). Lets not pretend you give a fuck. You don't, neither does anyone else. You just want the good feeling of getting faux-'"""outraged"""" for an afternoon.

3) Is "5" even a noteworthy shooting in 2017? 5 is chump change, and only 2 were even kids

How many fertilizer bombs were there before OK? I'm having trouble actually finding that out. And whether it worked in reducing fertilizer bomb deaths or not is redundant, as that's not what I'm arguing.

if all the kids had guns they could have shot the attacker

>dude i cant wait to kill dozens of people!
>aw fug D-: i cant get a gun? better go back to playing videogames

This except the teachers. But nope, once again another """"gun free zone""""" fails to protect kids. Retards will demand yet more """""gun free zones""""" and keep on getting more kids killed.

Thats right we'll all be safe when only the GOVERNMENT has guns.

>Badguy has gun.
>Better take away all the guns from the good guys.

Logic.

This. We should give mandatory assault rifles to kids when they enter kindergarten.

the kids have a right to defend themselves, what if the teacher was the attacker?

>Trying to reduce the ways in which people can do that is just a waste of money that could be spent addressing other issues
>And whether it worked in reducing fertilizer bomb deaths or not is redundant
Not him but it sure sounds like that's what you're arguing. Also solving systemic and deep rooted social issues isn't just as simple as "let's throw the money over there instead". Even if it was the change wouldn't happen overnight and you can't tell people that you're maybe kinda working on finding the cause that may or may not be the correct one that you may or may not be able to address while they're being shot at every other week.

*teachers until kids are old enough to show proficiency IMHO. This is already being adopted in some states and my own state has been pushing ahead with it recently after some of the biggest shootings:

abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/michigan-bill-lets-teachers-carry-concealed-guns-schools-50982474

Of course, no state currently requires teachers to be trained. But I think its worth looking at.

Most younger kids have teaching assistants, so that way there's always multiple teachers around. Plus we need to screen the fuck out of teachers anyway.

How come this doesn't happen often in Canada and Australia?

meant to (you) this too

How come this doesn't happen often in white countries?

Totally different cultures.

That said our death rate from mass public shootings is not particularly high, at least compared to Europe:

crimeresearch.org/2015/06/comparing-death-rates-from-mass-public-shootings-in-the-us-and-europe/

Its 100% media spin.

>2015

I'm just looking at it from a different point of view I suppose. Enacting fertilizer laws just reduces the amount of people that will kill in that way, but if they're determined to kill, they'll just find another way. Look at the UK, they don't have guns, which just raises the utility of using a knife, which are now being reduced, increasing the use of acid, et cetera. So sure you can spend your time playing cat and mouse making these laws, but the cause of the issue isn't addressed. It feels like a bandaid fix is all. You make a good point that it is a deep issue, I'm not saying it isn't. My whole contention is that it's just being approached the wrong way, because ad infinitum we could ban ways to assault each other until we have nothing but our bare fists, and that still wouldn't solve a thing.

I see where you're coming from and I'm open to hearing what these deeper issues are because I have no idea. Best guess I would have is some sort of fame or notoriety that sick fucks see on the news when these things are covered and they start to want the same. I do think that making it more difficult does go some way though. You say people will just find some other way but people do give up eventually if you make it hard enough. Studies on suicide have shown that people who have guns in their home or live near bridges are more likely to contemplate and commit suicide. Just having that option available seems to allow those thoughts to grow and seem more realistic. When it comes to things like fertilizer I believe it's similar. With guns I can't say the same since I don't think they will ever be particularly hard enough to get in America.

It's because you have no religion. B-but jaysus...No! You brand or Jesusism is concerned with outward appearances and money. Your preachers are megarich while the people are poor. Without a real internalised religion, your people are aimless and feel life has no meaning. So what? Plenty of other people in other countries feel like this to. The difference is that your national-myth is that everyone can be rich and famous regardless of background when in reality this is no longer possible for most due to the large wealth inequality. The result is thus, predictable.

Gun crime is on the decrease and has been for years. Its 100% media spin.

>You brand or Jesusism is concerned with outward appearances and money. Your preachers are megarich while the people are poor.

Uh there are a small handful of big name preachers who write books and go on big speaking tours and make good money, but the vast majority of preachers (any local preacher for example) are middle class or even poor depending.

Was about to type out a post but I refreshed and has summed up pretty much what I was going to write. I think the massive population has something to do with it as well. I don't think Canada is dissimilar from the US, but we only have 1/10th your population so I think our symptoms are far less pronounced.

I have nothing to say to Malaysia but I expected better from you, Canada.

SHALL

This

The average amerimutt is a broken and sad creature

Why do socialist yuropoors hate freedom and individual liberty?

>Take away their guns, they'll grab gardening tools and start hacking themselves to death.
kek

Would have killed more with a rented pickup truck to be honest.

>murrican mutts claim spics are violent
>>chill-e has a lower murder rate than the US
>Hue, americans are simply fat savages
No, Blacks are actually far more violent. Unless we're talking about MS-13 savagery.

>Funny you should bring up fertilizer. It has been heavily controlled in the US since 1994 and an individual suddenly buying a large amount of fertilizer instantly lands him on a federal watch list/partyvan invitation list. There's a reason why there hasn't been a fertilizer bomb attack in the US since oklaholma city bombing even though it's one of the most cost effective ways to kill people.
Wasn't it regulated in Norway as well and Breivik found some loophole?

I read this thread, therefore all comments apply to me.
OK, so, refute?

You need help.

But not in school.

Pew pew pew

BUT MAH GUNS

we should give all children and school teachers guns

>be american
>get shotted

>Government is inherently bad
Whats it like to live in a third world country?

this. we need to genocide americans

Kek. You win the internet.

this is unironically more interesting than generic shootout

In the US, statistically Blacks are the most violent, followed by hispanics. East Asians are the least violent, and after them whites are the second least violent.

That's why we say spics are violent. Start illegally sending your non-violent citizens instead of illegally sending your violent ones, and maybe I'll modify my opinion.

>hurr durr every country with guns is USA
kys

>California
>Gee the strictest gun laws in the country didn't prevent this shooting
>Maybe if we make them even stricterer it'll be prevented next time!
Retard

No they'll use a truck to run over 120 people
Nice'

This.

This

I’m jelly of being able to freely kill home invaders like Americans do. Maybe 300 million guns is retarded, but there are some things Americans do right when it comes to guns.

Gimmick idea: suggesting the problem might possibly be men in these threads and having ten permavirgins screech at me immediately

>Why don't gun laws work when people can freely, without any border check, come into the state from another where guns are handed out like candy

Retard

No, only the US hands them out like the US. Just because there are are 10% population to guns in other countries like Canada or Finland doesn't automatically mean they are equal. You don't get guns as a 14 year old at a gun show anywhere else.

A FUCKING LEAF

In Canada you need a license to buy a gun. That license, and therefore your guns, can be revoked. That license also requires a clean history of mental health and criminality. You also can't buy military weapons in Canada. Only basic hunting weapons are sold in standard stores, anything beyond that like an ACR or SKS is only going to come out gun shop, no AR-15's from Walmart, actually no AR-15s at all. Also handguns aren't legal to anyone but those with a top end Prohibited license which is essentially impossible to get unless you're a museum or work in a career that requires one. Mags are pinned to 5 bullets, you can't freely transport weapons, concealed carry essentially doesn't exist for civilians, etc.

In America anyone can walk into a gun show and walk out with a gun in 20 minutes. Americans are against background checks or mental health evaluations for gun purchases, etc.