His country was a part of the allies in WW2

>his country was a part of the allies in WW2
>his country opposed Europe becoming a superpower
>his country opposed the strengthening of national states
>his country helped commies and amerimutts pillage Europe

How does it feel?

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I wish Soviets would have genocided finns for good

you are not european

it was a choice between yank hegemony or germ hegemony
not an easy decision

not good

>Für nicht bewiesene Waffenbrüderschaft.png

>his country actually got involved
>his country didn't profit from remaining "neutral" and assisting both sides

How did that work out for you?

imagine, being one of the strongest nations of europe BTFOing Russia almost killing them, and a few hundred years later Finnland is more relevant than you. Really makes you think

Very well actually.
>he fell for the irredentism meme

Actually Europe would ha been totally germanized, Nazis were not the good guys and we were fools to follow them, Hitler only respected Mussolini and after a german victory of WW2 probably we could have become the next target in few decades.

not so fast

Imagine how your pathetic excuse of a nation can't even reclaim their rightful territory of Aland because they would get absolutely destroyed by Finns. Oh wait you don't have to

That's retarded, the Lebensraum did not include Italy.

Man Hitler, Goebbels and other nazi leaders considered us a neolatin race and not aryan so, how much retarded is supporting people who conside yourselves inferior?
>Lebensraum
That's a meme. Germanication of Europe was the goal.

>reclaiming a small island which was already granted autonomy years before

>his country opposed Europe becoming a superpower
Europe couldn't become a superpower, because it wasn't united. Different business and political groups had conflicting economical interests. For example, germans and romanians had to divide Odessa between two administrations, who were pretty hostile to each other.
>his country opposed the strengthening of national states
Actually it was Europe which opposed the strenghtening of national states in Asia and Africa.
>his country helped commies and amerimutts pillage Europe
Also building new infrastructure, factories, education and welfare system.
>How does it feel
I feel that modern people are being more and more ungrateful towards their ancestors.

So you enjoy muslim dick up your ass?

Pretty well. Sweden got profits from smuggling goods into Germany, reputation of international good goy for saving prisoners of death camps,

>I feel that modern people are being more and more ungrateful towards their ancestors.
Yeah, because finally theie actions show to bear fruit and people start to doubt if they really made the right choice back then.

>the refugee crisis and the issues that followed accepting refugees were all caused by not participating in WW2
How do you explain your own country?

>people start to doubt if they really made the right choice back then
And that's totally pointless thinking. There's a saying "f ifs and ans were pots and pans, there'd be no trade for tinkers". Instead of imagining about whatifs and badmouthing the past we should move forward and take steps based on contemporary cirquimstances.

>Europe couldn't become a superpower, because it wasn't united.
It could have been united under Germany. If the Axus would have won, the leading powers in the world would be Japan and Germany. A big nation in Europe being so powerful benefits the ones nearby too.
>Actually it was Europe which opposed the strenghtening of national states in Asia and Africa.
Only in the case of supporting Japan. The axis supported many independence movements like indians in America and India being free from brits.
>Also building new infrastructure, factories, education and welfare system.
Do you mean Marshall Aid, which was just polutical manipulation for the nations to work for the US's interest, not their own.

>Germanication of Europe was the goal.
No, this is pure bullshit.

Sure, I'm totally with you on that. Doesn't mean you can't take a look into the past and take it as a clue on what to do differently this time around though.

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>We allied with the communist Soviet Union to "liberate" lands that we had no rights to
>Before fighting the communist cancer we ourselves fueled for decades after
I thought you were talking about the US if not for the picture.
The Germans only "allied" with the USSR to avoid a generalized conflict, thinking it could prevent the UK to declare war, with his little puppy France.
And the territory they invaded was populated by Germans, who were slaughtered at the time. Dumb borders made by the butcherers of Versailles treaty.

>It could have been united under Germany
They would serve the economy of german areas to begin with.
>A big nation in Europe being so powerful benefits the ones nearby too
Still the major product goes to the land of the leader.
>Only in the case of supporting Japan.
Nope. Brits were opposing indian national movement, which was divided in pro-axis and pro-soviet groups, France was opposing vietnamese patriots.
>Do you mean Marshall Aid, which was just polutical manipulation for the nations to work for the US's interest, not their own.
Not only Marshall aid, soviets did some too. IIRC soviet specialists were restoring the treasures of Dresden museums

Everyone was on the wrong side.

Germans shouldn't have been fighting for a retard like Hitler and the Allies shouldn't have been fighting alongside communists. We all fucked up and basically killed the future of western civilization

>invade lands we had no rights to
I can smell the asshurt Polak through this picture

In what way was Hitler a retard?
Save for some military decisions maybe

>Everyone was on the wrong side in 1618-1648.
> France should have fought for Catholic league and HRE should have supported protestants. We all fucked up and killed the future of western civilisation

He was brave.
youtube.com/watch?v=ZHWrC0Guzqs

He tried to take over Europe, that's pretty retarded.

Instead of spreading the idea of National Socialism through military force it should have been done through politics. The war ruined any chance of Fascism/NatSoc ever being adopted across Europe.

He did not, France and UK declared war on him. He just wanted to stop massacres of ethnic Germans in former German territories, by negotiating and eventually taking them back if it didn't work.
Germany had the highest density of population at the time, still higher than ours today.

>the refugee crisis and the issues that followed accepting refugees were all caused by not participating in WW2
yes, yes they were

>How do you explain your own country?
Because we lost, because all of Europe lost?

I see, you fell for the Anglo propaganda

Hitler did not try to take over Europe

And how does invading Poland fit into this?

Care to explain? I don't see how many of his actions of war were justified. If he didn't want to take over Europe why was the first half of the war all offensive rather than defensive?

Oh I see.

Great speech

Yea ok muhammad, nevermind that already debunked your butthurt picture.

>hitler
>not a retard
pick one

>And how does invading Poland fit into this?
Taking back German territory in Poland. The only political entity in Danzig was the NSDAP. Hitler literally walked in without resistance.
See how dumb the borders were.

Yes, this sole video shows it very nicely Hitler was conscious of his duty towards the whole continent, and what we owe to our ancestors from all Europe.

>
>And how does invading Poland fit into this?
Because the French and Brits declared war on Germany
Again, Hitler declared his goals, and that was taking back the borders pre-1918, including Danzig
When the French and Brits declared war it was obvious he had to act

But how was razing Warsaw to the ground justified?

I can understand taking back territory, but Hitler did far more than that

Warsaw uprising is 1944, we're talking about 1939 here
The legitimacy of retaliation actions against partisans is an issue of discussion, yes

They only occupied the areas near Warsaw, not annexed them, meaning it was meant to be temporary, just like France's occupation.
They only took back the German parts on the West.
Plus, Stalin showed his first expansionist intentions as well, which prepared the minds to the upcoming and unavoidable clash. They had to be stopped at some point.
Without Hitler, but also Franco and Mussolini, the Reds would have surrounded Europe far before this time.

That's fair.

>it was meant to be temporary

What about the whole lebensraum plan then?

An ideal perhaps, but obviously there is many exaggerated propaganda or fantasy with this. It could have been realized if the war went well for Germany, and it would have been better for everyone. But at the premisses it wasn't the main goal.

Lebensraum is not really a concept that was pursued during the war and neither was the war fought for Lebensraum
Its more of a long-term goal, Germanisation of Eastern-European lands, yes, but not relevant for WW2

Thanks for your answers. It's all very interesting to me.

I definitely respect the Germans for trying to keep back the Communists, but I struggle with the idea of if whether or not Hitler overall did more harm than good for Europe. Maybe I'm just mad he lost and we have to deal with this shitty situation today.

Yes, Hitler was lucid and realistic, despite many saying he was mad, crazy, drugged or whatever. Some bad military choices may have been made, he remained clever until the end, with brillant counter-attacks until early 1945, and plans with secret weapons (whose inventors then worked worldwide on space projects or nuclear bombs). But the lack of men and weapons made him inevitably collapse. SAD!

>Thanks for your answers. It's all very interesting to me.
archive.org/details/AdolfHitlerTheGreatestStoryNeverToldFull6HoursDocumentary

>I struggle with the idea of if whether or not Hitler overall did more harm than good for Europe.
Thats a very complex question actually, as it contains a lot of if's and when's
Doesn't matter though if you ask me, what matters is that Hitler was right at heart IMHO
We have to deal with what we got today
If you ask me it was more of a logistics issue for losing the war
Logistics has always been the weak point of the German Army and in the East that was just very hard to realize
Also maybe just bad luck at times

Yes, and also the infamous Russian weather.
On another side, Germany should have opened enlistment far earlier and to all Europeans. In 1944 almost 3/4 of the Waffen-SS was composed of non-Germans. It could really have been European's crusade against Jews and commies, but when most of these brave men were engaged the war already reached its turning point.

If the axis wasn't literal nigger tier I wouldn't be so against it.

True
Ah, what could've been.
Shut up Greece

Yes It's one of those things that I think will continue to haunt for for many generations, especially when Europe starts to really crumble

>In 1944 almost 3/4 of the Waffen-SS was composed of non-Germans

My family is from west Ukraine so I've heard quite a lot about the 1st Galician Division that fought for the SS. It's nice to see that they are still honoured today.

>My family is from west Ukraine so I've heard quite a lot about the 1st Galician Division that fought for the SS. It's nice to see that they are still honoured today.
Interesting. In the 6 hours documentary that I've linked there is at the some point testimonies of an Ukrainian woman who lived at the time and considered Germans as heroes.
In France we had the SS Charlemagne. They fought until the very end, in Berlin.
youtube.com/watch?v=cQdGApj6GUw

>strengthening of national states
>by eliminating half the populace of existing national states

I assume France and Bohemia were somehow rightful german lands as well?

Because Germans would have TOTALLY been more benevolent than a friendly nation that shared a culture, language, and religion (Protestantism)

France was invaded after the UK and them declared war on them retard. Czechoslovakia had rightful German land due to the Versailles treaty

Yeah I've heard lots about it.

My town is a predominantly ethnic Ukrainian town and during the war there was a POW camp just outside town, mostly full of German Africa Korps, and there were given extreme freedom, they were able to go into town and drink at bars as they please as long as they return to the camp at the end of day, and I've heard lots of stories of how many of the townspeople absolutely loved the German soldiers and treated them with total respect for what they were doing in Ukraine against the Communists/Russians.

>Czechoslovakia had rightful German land due to the Versailles treaty

The fuck are you talking about? Even the sudetenland is debatable, nevermind the rest of the fucking country.

We've been lied for decades, our Jewish press constantly pushing us into a supposedly "unavoidable" war we were totally unprepared for and had no interest to do. Our entrance in the conflict was illegally declared by our ministers at the time.
Ironically, the modern day propaganda about the Nazi regime (apart from Holohoax) is the same that prevailed in the 30s.

Thanks for this testimony, comforting all the others. Not surprising, compared to Soviet barbarous rapists.

Czechoslovakia had been part of Germany and Austria Hungary for a few centuries. now that I think about it, your country also belongs to the Germans.
nice man. my grandfather was in the SS he was from Central Ukraine

>your country also belongs to the Germans.
kek, don't exaggerate
Hitler was the first for centuries to give them independence, ironically.

and yet he still thinks Hitler wasn't right

The INDEPENDENT Kingdom of Bohemia had been a part of the Holy Roman Empire, which could barely be considered Germany or even a state. By that logic even north Italy would be considered German clay.

After that, yeah, it was in a personal union under Austria, but during all this time, the lands were inhabited by the native Czechs.

"""""""""""""""""Independence"""""""""""""""""

Czechs are just Germans who speak a Slavic language dude look it up

>"""""""""""""""""Independence"""""""""""""""""
Many Croatians are still grateful to this day.
You should be thankful too!

>Finnish neo-Nazis

Hitler was a cunt.

Oh yeah, I'm so grateful that we gave away our coast to the italians.

So grateful we had to exterminate every ethnic croat who had a jewish great-great-great-great-grandmother.

So grateful for the 45 years of communism we received.

So grateful that we'd have to give away the rest of the coast, and get lebensraum'd like Poland and the USSR.

Yeah man, i'm so fucking grateful.

You weren't even a country since centuries ago.
Who had at least one grandmother Jewish, and they weren't meant to be exterminated but established in a Jewish state like Palestine.
You can thanks American liberators for letting commie scums proliferate in the region, fighting the wrong enemy.
You can be grateful indeed.

Just because we weren't independent doesn't mean we weren't a country. We've always had a varying degree of autonomy.

Yeah, I'm sure that's what happened.

No, I can thank Hitler for attacking the commies in the first place.

Imagine how much of a cuck you have to be to support nazi Germany as a frenchman.

Neutral,
good,
good,
bad.

Pretty fucking good.

You weren't an autonomous entity, which changed a lot of things and explains why the Croats (indigenous, not filthy jewish trash) were appreciative.
That's what should have happened. Well it still did in the end, the good goys win, and Israel is there.
>he attacked them therefore it's his fault if we turned red guise
Kek, Stalin would've invaded the whole Europe if he could, he blindly took away Baltic countries, Poland, Ukraine, etc. before that and was willing to pursue. Don't forget it was a struggle between nationalists and internationalists, not the same paradigm. The Red expansion was dangerously growing in Spain (where it was contained), Germany and Italy (same), but also France (which was threatened).
And imagine how much of a cuck you have to be to think the Nazis were your enemy at the point you need to declare war on them just for some buttmad Polaks, as a Frenchman. How much of a cuck you must be to be willing to go and die for nothing that serves your interests even indirectly. Really makes me think.

Kys retard
Hope you get mossad'd for all the shit youn spouting

>his country opposed the strengthening of national states
>this is what nazicuck bootlickers actually believe
Wew

He opened way too many fronts man, you fucked up your own plan by declaring was to the Soviets. Why couldn't you have waited to close the Anglo front?

Nice opinion Mehmet.