Bill Nye Destroys climate change-denying Trump adviser William Happer
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I think climate change is real but what the hell is anyone actually doing about it besides putting up a few token wind farms that don't really do anything? What's a solution that's actually realistic?
Yeeeesh, back to Sup Forums with you. Can't stand Nye and his "dude I'm a scientist I know everything there is to know in the world" schtick, but the message is correct. You think the Syria war is a mess? What happens when millions of people are displaced by rising oceans and look to move to Europe/US? Not gonna be a fun time.
Stop hyperventilating.
solar, nuclear, and hydro energy
wind energy is a fad
Cute, will he destroy gender-deniers or is that kind of anti-science acceptable?
nuclear power is the only answer
also climate change might take care of the over population problem
big spoiler: a lot of "anti-science" is acceptable as long as it doesn't bother people
angry atheists like richard dawkins aren't really that prevalent, scientists mostly don't give a shit if you're religious or think you're outside of two genders or if you think homeopathy will give you a big penis as long as you don't hurt anyone with it
>It's okay the facts only matter when it fits my narrative
Thanks for the liberal simulator.
YAAAASSSSSS SLAY NYE GYE SSLLLLLLLAAAAAAAYYYYYY
that's not what i said, retard
>also climate change might take care of the over population problem
It's not. If you bothered to think about it for more than a few seconds, as the sea levels rise it will displace people living in places like Florida, who will migrate further inland as the years go on.
It's okay, the scientists don't mind :^)
Investing in new research to replace the rapidly depleting and harmful use of fossil fuels instead of sucking the dicks of oil companies because they own us right now.
We're years behind and have a federal admin playing glib and our children if not our grandchildren are going to suffer for it.
wind is a bit of a joke. very expensive to put up and maintain, and if it gets 'too windy' you have to turn them off. they are an eye sore.
solar panels are actually fucking great. just the simple task of putting a solar panel on every roof of a country would be very helpful for everyday energy costs.
have high hopes for nuclear but people are scared of it because of fukushima and chernobyl. what happened to liquid thorium reactor research?
i assumed it was going to cause famine in africa and india
We were supposed to have 50,000,000 (50 MILLION) "climate refugees" by 2010. When exactly are these "climate refugees" coming? Or are this just a (((scientific))) excuse for accepting millions of brown immigrants to give white people's money to.
>We were supposed to have 50,000,000 (50 MILLION) "climate refugees" by 2010
source?
>muh climate refugees
theguardian.com
what are you even trying to say
Bill Nye isn't an authority on climate science.
I might as well listen to an engineer lecture me on biology.
>solar powered air conditioners
>solar powered fans that blow all of the hot air back into space
Wow, your welcome ice caps
See The UN's (((top scientists))) predicted this in 2005. They predicted by 2010, we would have 50 million climate refugees. As if 2017, there have been zero. This is just one of many failed predictions from the climate science community.
how cringey is the episode with Klossy?
shes the only reason I would watch any of this shit
Oh. Hmmm. Maybe.
fuck...i thought we were going to start winning? why aren't we winning?
SEIG HEIL
no, a shitty guardian headline predicted that in 2005
when you read the body it says it includes people displaced by environmental disasters too, and includes people moving from drought stricken regions, of which there are already many
Haha, They are literally trying to blame shitty socialist governments in Latin America and dumb nigger governments in Africa on "climate change". I'm crying.
>our children
reeeeeeee
>droughts didn't exist before global warming
lmao!!
yep, better take on even more debt to buy solar panels or else future generations will suffer
>elect president that does everything his opponent was said to be doing right now
is there anyone quite as cucked as trumpfags?
>What's a solution that's actually realistic?
Reducing the population. It's literally the only way.
How can we successfully silence the scientists trump bros?
where did i say that? if you read more than one shitty article you see that the UN already counted millions of refugees under this term, of course there wouldn't be a fucking sudden appearance of 50m new people between 2005 and 2010
We don't have to let them in and if they are starving they won't be that hard to exterminate.
Give their money to actual scientists instead of "scientists" who agree to say the things one political party wants.
Look, I voted for Trump and was a huge supporter of his for a long time.
But climate change denial is a red line that we cannot cross. We need to get rid of this guy.
>Literally criminalizing disagreement with him
Yes this is how science works.
>Look, I voted for Trump
>But climate change is a problem
how big of a retard are you?
>They predicted by 2010, we would have 50 million climate refugees. As if 2017, there have been zero.
Wrong.
Do you know what happened right before the Syrian Civil War? The most severe drought in a thousand years.
This, let's get him Sup Forumsros!!!
Doesn't nye believe in a flat earth theory
Did you even read the article? They are quoting "scientific experts" on climate change.
>Janos Bogardi, director of the Institute for Environment and Human Security at the United Nations University in Bonn, said
>"There are well-founded fears that the number of people fleeing untenable environmental conditions may grow exponentially as the world experiences the effects of climate change," Dr Bogardi said. "This new category of refugee needs to find a place in international agreements.
>Hans van Ginkel, UN under-secretary-general and rector of the university, said: "This is a highly complex issue, with global organisations already overwhelmed by the demands of conventionally recognised refugees. However, we should prepare now to define, accept and accommodate this new breed of refugee."
These are the sort of "experts" that Bill Nye is referring to when he say "science is in my side".
nationalreview.com
At least he showed better than he did against Tucker Carlson, when he broke down and started hurling ad hominems at the poor guy the instant he couldn't answer a simple fucking question.
>“Let me ask you this. Why aren’t you concerned about it? Don’t you have four children? Why aren’t you concerned about climate change?” Because if you don’t care about climate change, you don’t care about your children.
Spacex has been producing solar powered large scale batteries such that we can just shove them in deserts and produce shit-tons of energy without doing anything
there's nothing in that which disagrees with my post, though? are you dense? they're literally saying they're having a new definition for some kinds of refugees
By this of course you mean the scientists who are being paid billions of dollars by Exxon, Shell, etc. to spread FUD about climate change even as thousands of internal documents have shown internally that they accepted the scientist decades ago.
I mean since Sup Forums claims to be against "shills" they are surely vigilant against any such agents of proven to exist propaganda campaigns right?
Except solar has a carbon footprint
Except we don't all live in a fucking desert
Except solar requires rare earths to mine which China controls 97% of the market
Droughts happen all of the time. In 2007 they said California was supposed to be flooded by inland lakes right now. Instead they've been going through a drought of thier own the past few years. You have no evidence that Syrian drought is linked to human activity. This is the liberal propaganda for absolving shitty middle eastern governments if any responsibility and guilt tripping whitey into performing self-genocide.
Sup Forums will scream murder for freedom of speech, but went completely silent when trump attempted to shut down the EPA and tried to muzzle agricultural scientists and bureaucrats
oh well, at least he made it so your internet provider can sell your information to the highest bidder :^)
I'm conflicted
On one hand there are clearly people profiting from it staying an open discussion who are funding scientists and public opinion to keep questioning climate change. This should be illegal
On the other hand, it needs to stay a subject that can be questioned
oh wow man
Green energy isn't "green".
Oil and coal shills are the same as solar and wind shills. We should work with what's the most efficient instead of these lobbyist pissing contests.
What difference does it make?
>look we made cars pollute a little less and they're only 30% more expensive
>u-um China, India, and the rest of the developing world, please stop having industry
National socialism is the solution to all of our problems. If the society actually cares about the country, the people, the prosperity and the prolongation of the race, efforts to curb pollution and harmful effects on Mother Gaia would take effect immediately, and people would do it willingly.
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why's bill always challenging people to debates
i mostly agree with him on climate change but he isn't a very talented tongue twister and a tad bit weak on the confrontation side when it isn't over twitter
>science is liberal propaganda and a giant conspiracy to wipe out the white race
>oil companies lobbying to governments to never do anything is completely fine
you're like a sad parody of an dumb american, no wonder the world laughs at you
No the UN said there were climate refugees because they can't admit that shitskin governments are terrible. They presented no evidence that climate change has ever produced a refugee. They just told us to "get ready for it" (ie get ready to gib gib gib to third-world hordes).
>Except solar has a carbon footprint
No it doesn't? That's the entire point?
>Except we don't all live in a fucking desert
Hence why the batteries are so important? They harness the energy in the desert and then we can connect these sources to the grid
Plus, it allows dirt-poor people in Africa and India to essentially have free electricity as long as they have a battery
>Except solar requires rare earths to mine which China controls 97% of the market
Oh no, if only there was some sort of economic good we could trade with china... darn
This guy is literally "member me, millenials?" the person
do you just imagine posts to be a different argument than they are to have your little conspiracy spiel?
He might be a meme, but at least he's fighting for a good cause that's bigger than bipartisan politics
>using climate change to promote nazism
How do the "alt right" not realize they are actually leftists?
>conservatives are dumb for saying that global warming is a hoax if there is a severe winter
>stupid conservatives, you don't believe in global warming? look at this drought!
>he fell for an Elon Musk scam
everybody point and laugh
Are the people who deny climate change the same kind of people who 50 years ago denied smoking caused cancer?
yes
You said
>a shitty guardian headline predicted that
You were wrong. The UN "scientists" have been talking about climate change refugees for decades and we've never got any. So they do convoluted shit like blame the wars in the Middle East on climate change.
White genocide is the name of the globalist game and it's getting increasingly difficult for any sane white person to deny this.
>Droughts happen all of the time. . In 2007 they said California was supposed to be flooded by inland lakes right now.
No, droughts are happening with increasing regularity and severity. Which btw in 2007 the California government said would happen:
water.ca.gov
>June 2007
>Weather patterns are becoming more variable, causing more severe winter and spring flooding and longer, drier droughts.
>. You have no evidence that Syrian drought is linked to human activity.
Never mind, I see you are a classic Exxon shill. Here you set a strawmen (was this drought proven to exist purely and exclusively through climate change? No? Then I can just ignore it!)
Remember you fucking idiot, your corporate masters have plans to survive the destruction they're bringing.
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>ask some irrelevant anybody to a debate that literally everything is in your favor for
>some random Flat Earther from Utah accepts debate
>"watch Bill Nye totally pwn this Trump voter. Science, bitch!!"
>remain somewhat relevant for another 4 months
bill nye is a shill for the solar industry
>4 out of 5 scientists recommend Marlboro!
>trust us, we have no economic incentive to promote these new tax hikes on energy and transportation
>well a scientists said it so it must be true
it's the opposite
They are LITERALLY the same people.
It's a lot easier to track than climate change. It's obviously changing, but it isn't clear how much is due to man. I also think a lot of the celebrities who have taken up the cause are seen as annoying hypocrites.
t. scientist
Climate change theory =\= science. But nice try in equating my skepticism of climate change with denying science.
>No it doesn't?
Really? Solar powered drills and solar powered factories to make solar panels?
>Hence why the batteries are so important?
Germany's big on solar yet doesn't have these "batteries" you speak of. Every time they get an energy surplus they have to sell the excess energy at NEGATIVE, meaning they have to PAY to sell their energy.
>Oh no, if only there was some sort of economic good we could trade with china... darn
My point about rare earths is that solar benefits one country immensely, so perhaps you should reconsider advocating for it. You might just end up realizing you're shilling for China, not green energy.
Well shit
Nice mentality. That's the problem with modern liberals. You're so damn conceited to the point of being obnoxious that you lessen your power to persuade people.
>herp derp everyone who disagrees with me about anything is the same group of people
>my group can never be wrong, my group is perfect!
Same mentality that causes bipartisanship.
>carbon tax is a good cause
Too bad it takes 30 years to get a return on investment with solar. It's just too inefficient for our current energy demands.
Humanity was a mistake.
Libya is also going through a Civil War but didn't have a drought. The drought was entirely incidental to the civil wars that resulted from the Arab Spring.
Fuck off with this meme-tier understanding of geo-politics that you got from Bernie Sanders.
Episode 1:
> Bill holds up an Erlenmeyer flask. The audience ooohs.
> "Now this might look like water, but it's actually an aqueous solution."
> Audience starts clapping
> Electronic dance music starts playing
> Adam from the mythbusters comes out on a scooter with colorful beakers and a lab coat.
> Bill and Adam start dancing with beakers, audience cheers
> Record scratch, music abruptly stops
> Zoom into Bill's face, "Now let's get serious folks."
> "Can you believe there are still people who believe in God, and not climate change?"
> Audience erupts in laughter, more applause
> "Folks we have a very special guest here today to tell you why space is WOKE!"
> Neil DeGrasse Tyson comes out in a space suit
> Audience furiously clapping now, can barely contain themselves
> Tyson: "The potential for life is everywhere in the universe, Star Trek and Star Wars could be real!"
> Audience hands are now bleeding from all the clapping.
> Bill: "Well that's all the time we have today, join us next week when we tell you more about why science rocks!"
> Electric guitar solo, audience starts chanting aggressively "Bill! Bill! Bill! Bill! Bill!" Their claps are now full repetitive nazi salutes.
Rare earth metals exist all over the world, including the United States. The reason why China has a monopoly is because their government subsidizes the production, while such subsidies in the United States were shut off by right wingers complaining about "goverment handouts" and instead turned into billion dollar taxcuts for the ultrarich.
It's the same reason why you Republicans hate Elon Musk so much, and would literally prefer to buy Russian rocket engines rather than support an American company: because you hate America.
>it's a "dumbfucks on Sup Forums seriously respond to climate change deniers thinking that it isn't just troll jobs" episode
Jesus Christ, how can you waste so much time?
Who's that woman in the bottom left? The designated Democratic voice?
maybe he just wants practice
Just seems like it's one huge debate over how bad polluting is. If we all agree it's bad what's it matter how bad? This "alamrist models are wrong so there's nothing wrong" argument is silly.
Also working with coal and oil is shitty work anyways and leads us into business with muslims, we should just do nuclear, solar, and wind here why is this even a debate still?
Thanks for proving me right. Stay mad kiddo.
Trump isn't muzzling anybody. He's just not giving federal funding for useless, bunk science. It's been killing our manufacturing industry and right now we need jobs not snide liberalcrats.
>guy from the audience: "hey, I member that guy from science class!!"
>Really? Solar powered drills and solar powered factories to make solar panels?
what the fuck are you even saying? that because production of solar panels causes emissions by proxy of using an unsustainable energy source, solar counts as an unsustainable energy source?
this is some of the dumbest shit i've ever read
>Germany's big on solar yet doesn't have these "batteries" you speak of.
That's because Spacex is literally still in the process of developing them you dumbfuck, hence why the issue hasn't been solved yet
>My point about rare earths is that solar benefits one country immensely, so perhaps you should reconsider advocating for it. You might just end up realizing you're shilling for China, not green energy.
aka
>let's not try to save the planet, one country might unfairly benefit
fucking hell you're retarded
Try again Exxon shill, Libya has had massive water problems.
Solar and wind are cucked energy sources, just use fucking oil.
>The reason why China has a monopoly is because their government subsidizes the production
And also because it's where most deposits occur. The ones in America have been mined out. The Japanese used to buy slag from old mines in China to get the REE out before the ching chongs realised how much it was worth.
t. geologist