Be truthful, is the next generation worth watching? Or is it one of those shows people only watch because they are already sitting on the couch, eating dinner, and they don't want to talk to their family?
I've watched the first few episodes and it isn't very good.
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It's actually uniformly terrible from the first episode to the last. You'd be better off watching Deep Space 9, which features better actors and a coherent plot.
Even people that love the series agree the first few episodes are shit. Most agree s3-s6 are where the gold is.
It's genuinely great, but most of season 1 and 2 are undeniably terrible. I would say you have to watch the Pilot, and Skin of Evil (both terrible episodes) for plot reasons and then the only other episode worth watching in season 1 and 2 is Measure of a Man
Just skip to season 3 afterwards
Some tng episodes are superb. Others are filler and reused storylines with different aliens. Theres a list i never saved it and have no idea how accurate it is.
Ds9 is utter trash until the last season and maybe some of the second to last.
As a general rule, avoid anything where Riker doesn't have a beard.
Watch until you see this
>most of season 1 and 2 are undeniably terrible.
Bullshit, they're perfectly watchable. You just do it after you finish all the other seasons.
TNG suffers from stories that don't age well at all. I can't watch a lot of the episodes now a days without cringing
Just watch babylon 5, the superior scifi show.
Daffy Duck, haha I know that reference.
Its called star trek, implying a trek through the stars
not
star sit in one place
ds9 was terrible
Start with season 3 or so.
And Conspiracy. Also crap, but the scene where Picard and Riker blow a guy's head up makes it worth it.
Picks up after the first season or so and its undeniably the best of all Star Trek overall.
>Shit DS9 ripoff
No thanks
as much as I like DS9, its better than DS9. at least it didn't have shitty cringy dialogue and stupid writing and a story that was cobbled together at the end because the writers had no idea what direction to take the story
the characters actually progress in B5 and have interesting relationships with each other, the intrigue and politics are miles better than most TV shows made today.
>the sisko is linear, he tries to control the game blah blah corporeal matters
its lazy writing and story telling that uses vague dialogue to hide how shallow it is. the only good episodes were the funny ones or the ones that had nothing to do with the main storyline, like Take Me Out to the Holosuite, In the Cards, Its Only a Paper Moon etc, with the only exception really being In the Pale Moon Light.
There were a couple of good stories at the end of season one. I liked "Too Short a Season".
But I agree that lots of things get better with Season 3.
>as much as I like DS9, its better than DS9.
I agree!
The first season was dull as shit so feel free to skip it.
Season 2 had some top tier episodes though i.e Measure of a Man
There are no good episodes in seasons one or two. Measure of a Manfags can fuck off, it's literally the exception which proves the rule.
No need to be so rude user.
I just got called a retard in the Battlestar Galactica thread and I'm really upset about it.
We're on E11 on cy tube.
Next up is S02E12: "The Royale"
Mallrats 9 is terrible. kys
Except for this muther right here.
S5 is shit too but has a few classic episodes near the end to make you forget
nah, it isn't worth watching one of the greatest television shows of all time.
"Q Who?" is required, too.
"Elementary, Dear Data"
>ywn be a neet that blitzes through all of star trak, b5 and bsg in a couple of months ever again
Honestly the only legitimate bad episode is the one with the space africans.
All the others are fine at worst maybe silly
>"Shades of Gray"
It was fine as long as "clip show" episodes go
>at least it didn't have shitty cringy dialogue and stupid writing and a story that was cobbled together at the end because the writers had no idea what direction to take the story
Except Babylon 5 has all of those.
Especially the fifth season. I don't blame JMS for that-- I blame the network instead-- but even JMS would admit that it was a mess by the end.
>Random irrelevant scenes from one character
And "The Emissary" and "A Matter of Honor".
Suzie Plakson comes back again, and the Klingon-Starfleet Officer Exchange Program gives us Kurn.
You don't get to dismiss it like that. "Oh, clip shows are always shit" - it's a shit episode and there is no reason to watch it whatsoever. Even if you fastforward through all the scenes you've seen before, it's fucking awful, just Troi gurning at an unconscious Riker.
Do not skip any episodes of a show on your first watch, unless it's a clip show.
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DS9 is pretty good, but it is a mess. The good episodes of TNG aren't dragged down by the bad ones, which can't be said for a serialized show that lasts for almost a decade
ok, fine two terrible episodes
Her first episode is terrible and her final episode is terrible.
She does her job well, but I don't recommend that anybody try to follow her """storyline""".
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It's too bad data couldn't make them eskimo sisters.
How did Data get so much pussy?
>It's an "I get hung up on semantics because I have autism" post
Don't be rude.
Somebody with actual autism posted in yesterday's /trek/ thread and now I see your buzzword in a whole new light.
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Thanks, will do.
It's a sizable undertaking. I started TNG years ago because of these threads and I'm just now starting season 6. It's best as a show to watch in the background for me. Once in awhile you'll get an episode that makes you give it your full attention like "The Inner Light" which I loved a few days ago and the infamous "sexual organs" episode which I FINALLY saw the other day.
Took a break at S3 for some reason when it finally got better and gave DS9 a shot on netflicks and before you know it I had watched that entire series before finishing S4 of TNG.
Kind of glad that I did now. I can really appreciate seeing 2 more seasons of TNG for the first time.
who else is getting laid tonight?
I don't need your fantasy women, Q!
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I'm convinced that skipping TNG episodes is a reddit meme. Not every early episode is great, but you're going to miss out on the greatest TV show ever made.
>It's an "I get hung up on semantics because the writers think that's the best way to write an android" show.
My wife laughed so hard I had to pause the episode when we watched this one a couple weeks back.
>Somebody with actual autism posted in yesterday's /trek/ thread and now I see your buzzword in a whole new light.
I'm sorry, Mr. Highwater, Jr., but that wouldn't be a very scientific appraisal of my analysis of your scant body of work which includes plagiarism and fraud.
This. If you want to watch bernie sanders in space with the same 4 plots recycled over and over again with slightly different aliens and shit actors then TNG might be for you.
>all of star trak
>a couple of months
Fucking how??
DS9 is only better than the show it originally lifted it's premise from, and that's about it.
Even Star Trek: Equinox is better.
>bernie sanders in space
typical Sup Forums poster probably just envious of the Trek waifus.
I just found out this week that my parents named me Avery after Avery Brooks.
Keep trekkin bros.
Also, TNG is very worthwhile and has a lot of good moments but there are a few shit episodes sprinkled in there.
OS=TNG=DS9>ENT>VOY
Deep Space Nine is superior. Patrick Stewart is awesome but he carries TNG on his back. The show itself is far too aesopy and has the crusher family in it (need I say more?). DS9 focuses far more on character development and the episodic stories are often part of a larger overarching story.
Please tell me this is not your shitty video user. This is embarrassing, never do something like this on Sup Forums ever again.
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>It's a "anons don't know how to use Sup Forums" episode
Gotta love 80s/90s boob jobs. Just bolt those fuckers right on the chest.
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Skipping episodes is a reddit meme. Reddit behavior is not having the patience, discipline, or dedication to watch all a TV show has to offer, in the order it was aired, like a true patrician.
Let me guess, the two outliers are shades of gray and sub-rosa.
yup
Yes.
While those episodes are bad, you have to remember that IMDB ratings are heavily skewed by the userbase of the site, as they are the ones doing all the reviewing. IMDB is very much a part of "internet culture", and thus is very prone to viral meme infection.
watch for nearly 14-16 hours a day
jesus fucking christ, my neetlife is nowhere near that power level. I have to be a normie and go to work and stuff. Even in my most degenerate moments in college I could only watch about 8 hours a day.
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>I liked "Too Short a Season".
I re-watched that like a month ago. I forgot how weird it felt, especially the scenes on the bridge where there is this weird unspoken dynamic between the Admiral and the guy he had fought years ago on the planet. Then he admits to Happy Gilmore's Gilfmother that he swallowed both their doses and starts reverting.
I love season 1 for it's strange and surreal qualities.
>the royale
You poor sod.
Early shit DS9 really killed the whole franchise, didn't it?
Data holsters his phaser in that episode like a G.
Where do you get all these webms from?
I've only made .webms if I really liked certain scenes.
It's not DS9's fault that Voyager and Enterprise had even worse ratings.
A lot of people like to say this, but the reality is that TNG brought in so many people that were not into science fiction or Star Trek at the time; it was a huge phenomenon. Those Nielsen ratings are phenomenal for a TV show on CBS at the time.
When it was time to make a spin-off show, most of the normies tried it out (as you can see by the pilot episode's rating being on par with TNG), then decided not to stick around. TNG was the "normie" Star Trek show of its time. No one wanted to watch some gay shit about Ferengi and Cardassians and some plot blah blah blah who cares? That's what happened.
t. Someone who is old enough that they remember watching TNG on Monday night CBS as a kid.
What do you use to make your webms, if you don't mind me asking? I have Premiere Pro CS6, but I don't think it exports to webm.
Yeah but the normie audience seems to have dropped DS9 like a sack of potatoes, stuck around for the end of TNG and then fucked off forever.
The normies gave Voyager a chance too, and dropped that even lower.
The normies gave Enterprise a chance too, and dropped that even lower.
Voyager and Enterprise have no one to blame but themselves.
>It's not DS9's fault that Voyager and Enterprise had even worse ratings.
Actually, Voyager was far more successful considering the amount of money that went in to DS9 and UPN was Voyager's flagship. DS9
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i'm sorry, the normie audience to star trek? the most typical geek series in all of history that has forever been the butt of jokes by normies? niggaaaaa what
Are you high or drunk or something? Your argument is both nonsensical and unfinished.
Star Trek II, IV, TNG and First Contact are all normiecore.
>Are you high or drunk or something? Your argument is both nonsensical and unfinished.
No, I forgot to add to it. But that's not an argument. DS9 did pour far more funding into keeping it on air in it's first three years of production than Voyager but even if that wasn't the case, DS9 was going to be syndicated and UPN could annex all of the executive producers if necessary.
>annex all of the executive producers if necessary
I think the word I was looking for was veto but more to the point is that Ira and co. had far more room to do what was necessary for the story whereas the Voyager writers and later Enterprisers writers would find out being hamstruck by a network makes it harder to write a good show.
I've always thought Star Trek was super heavy on the socialist narrative.... but it's fairly clever in that if you've already struck the bait, you don't see the hook. Most trekkies don't see how it's a vehicle to preach the wonders of socialism and it couldn't be more obvious to me. Note that this underlying theme is *barely* there in the Original Series (which I do enjoy), but by Next Generation it underscores the plot heavily in every episode.
I like the Original series, hate all other Star Trek. Though to be fair, I didn't watch much of the rest of it. I often watched Next Generation because it was often sandwiched between other things I watched back in the late 80s and early 90s.
>DS9 did pour far more funding into keeping it on air in it's first three years of production than Voyager
Where are you getting this from? The only budget claim I've seen is that Voyager's Caretaker is the most expensive episode in Star Trek's entire history (23 million, more expansive than even The Wrath of Khan).
>DS9 was going to be syndicated and UPN could annex all of the executive producers if necessary.
You're talking nonsense now. DS9 was unconnected with UPN.