Political Ideology

Which ideology is the best? Or which one do you follow? Conservative? Liberal? Communist? Socialist? Libertarian? Anarchist? Moderate? Some weird ideology I've never heard of?

I'm not really sure what I am. Think I'm a libertarian.

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Nazism

nazism

Dubs of truth?

Naw Ima go with Minarchism. Only roll should be a police force only to keep people from killing each other, violence, and fraud, along with military and a judicial system for those arrested. Nothing else.

Classical Liberal/Libertarian here

Democracy is the sacred cow that nobody wants to touch or even discuss.

The left-wing, even the extreme left wing, say that "capitalism" is the problem, but that "DEMOCRACY in the workplace" is the solution.

The right-wing populists say that "political correctness" is the problem and the solution is popular uprising of the nation, democracy.

All agree democracy is the solution.

Of all the problems we as thinking beings face, the hardest to recognize are the biggest and most obvious because our brains dismiss them in advance as background noise. In the case of modern society, the elephant in the room is our propensity for choosing ideas by their popularity with individuals and not their fitness for the task as a whole. This elephant manifests itself as democracy, consumerism, trends and social cliques.

We the people (who think) recognize that democracy has four major failings:

1) By the nature of trying to find one solution that represents everyone, democracy cannot accept any complete plan and thus offend some of its members, but must work out a "compromise" that preserves the appearance of change but, by adulterating and hybridizing details of any proposed plan, make it a muddle that defaults to the status quo.

2) Intelligence and nobility of character are rare; most people lack these traits in the degree needed to make decisions for a nation, and democracy cancels out the votes of the intelligent (the minority) with mass opinion.

3) Democracy encourages egomania by encouraging people to vote according to what brings them personal gain, ignoring the question of the best plan for all (usually beyond their comprehension).

4) To motivate sluggish masses to pick one choice over another, democratic leaders must oversimplify topics and create theatrical opposites. Proposals must be streamlined to the most simplistic four-second sentence available.

My problem with libertarians are:
1) open borders
2) deregulating the economy (allowing jews to fuck over everyone)
3) not dealing with climate change

However, I do like the idea of a non-intrusive government.

>tl;dr
People need to be ruled by their betters, not by their 'equals'. The fundamental problem of democracy is that it can only work with an informed voter base, and there is absolutely no desire from the general public to become informed.

Conservative Libertarians

What's more American?

A benevolent dictator would be ideal, but it could never work because power corrupts. Republics aren't perfect by any means, but its the best realistic option we have.

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There are two problems:

1. Who is deciding who the betters are?
2. The people will just rebel eventually for the sake of rebelling. It's the pull and tug of history.

And who are our "betters", faggot?
Fuck you

Not in favor of open borders, party chose that, not all members did. And deregulated economies would see less jewry at work, they hide behind and exploit the law, if they win customers and money by merit then so be it.

Seems like the problem is that countries become too large, and that local government should be at the forefront of policy making, not the bottom.

Center-Left is the best. Mixed economy is best economy.

Libertarian Nationalism, government obviously needs to be limited and our doors closed to the 3rd world hordes

This.

This is how I feel. Sure communism, or anarcho-capitalism if everything worked out right. But communism still has those that are more equal than others, and in anarchiso-capitalism few will grab power and humans just aren't innately good enough for anarchy to work.

That's why I feel libertarianism is a good middle ground.

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I'm Libertarian, but I'll never vote for them, it's become a fucking meme party

I agree with this, Dunbar's Number exists, government meant for humans needs to understand this and work around it.

In that way, we can hopefully end up with a system or group of systems meant for the good of the people, not exploitation and subjugation.

THE POINT OF DEMOCRACY IS THAT IT GETS VERY LITTLE ACCOMPLISHED YOU FUCKING IMBECILE TREAD ELSEWHERE

> keynesian pleb
kys

libertarian
Always vote for more freedom.

Voting for less freedom is the ultimate cuckolding.

Socialism, hands down. Nearly all intellectuals have socialist leanings. The common argument that socialism has never worked is flawed and doesn't take into account that we've never actually had socialism--we've had dictators.

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>muh smart politik
>straw man
the problem is that it can ONLY exist as you have stated (with authoritarianism)

t. high school senior who took intro to econ.

Venezuela

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Read Hayek and Sowell

National Socialist

No true Scotsmen, etc.

Socialism works on paper, might work in an ethnically homogenous, disproportionately wealthy culture.

>Please vote my shit away.

fucking cuck

> ad hom
> ignoring that people deciding for others is authoritarianism

t. ad hom is my only defense history disagrees with me logic says positive rights are retarded but its 2016 and you are less smart than me (i am also a bernout)

>sure communism

retard detected.

Communism is wrong on a moral level you utilitarian faggot.

what about a minarchist democracy tho?

kek, true

libertarian

>deregulating the economy (allowing jews to fuck over everyone)

already happening you dumb fuck because of regulation

I wasn't saying that I believed that, I was talking about how other people commonly feel.

well, the concept change time to time, i know for mi grandpa at least in mi country that the conservatives were sons of a bitch on the 70s, and now in this time, they are like last hope and liberatians are commies crybabyes retards, (at least in mi country). well..i guess in USA too... lol.

Si senor. Me gusta gatos.

No but good point.

I'm a libertarian / constitutionalist. I like purples and blues. Greens are ok too. Reds are the enemies of civilization.

The modern libertarian is a stupid utilitarian animal.

They only wish for "freedom" because of the perceived increase in happiness it will bring.
"well this is the most efficient thing to do."

They care little for actually morality

Too them, your freedom to discriminate goes against business interests. That wanted to have exclude others from a community is wrong. They only protect property when they think it benefits money making.

They are hedonist.

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1) only the shitty American """""Libertarian""""" Party is in favor of open borders. Read Hoppe, you twat.
2) it already is, which is how the Jews got there in the first place
3) Oh yeah all the governments in the world are doing a hell of a job (protip: capitalism invented machines that sucks pollution out of the ambient and turns it into clean breathable air, to name one)

Fucking pipe dream. Democracies always fail. Especially when you let everyone vote.

moderate isnt an ideology lol

So what then is the goal of morality?

Classical liberalism, you get weed and guns

What I want is a good, strong monarchy with a tasteful and decent king who has some knowledge of theology and geometry and to cultivate a Rich Inner Life.

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I am a communalist, ask me anything

I don't even remotely spend enough time to formula an educated/rational opinion on politics since politics is where intellectualism goes to bury itself and die.

> 1) open borders
welfare subsidies/social programs + "free" citizenship + open borders + guns control = PROBLEMS
> 2) deregulating the economy (allowing jews to fuck over everyone)
> 3) not dealing with climate change
lol

Democracy is the best because it gives the highest average standard of living for it's people, all other ideologies favor a small minority and don't benefit the actual people.

I am an anti-ism-ist

but the government is small enough you could try to run it into the ground for years and it either wont go far or crash and have little effect. also not letting everyone vote is a slippery slope to a bigger government (ie. who decides who votes)

Libertarian / Classical Liberal Constitutional Republic with strictly limited voting rights e.g. only males over 25 that can prove they are a net positive to society and can pass a civics / economics exam are allowed to vote for their representatives.

go get assblasted

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not letting everyone vote is a slippery slope away from minarchism

>They care little for actually morality
The non-aggression principle is very popular among libertarians. Forcing your will onto others, when it isn't really necessary, is immoral.
>Too them, your freedom to discriminate goes against business interests.
Take the gay cake bullshit for instance. If someone doesn't want to make a gay wedding cake, they shouldn't have to. They can deny service to whoever they want - But it only hurts them. The logical business decision is to serve as many people as possible. I don't see why you're pointing this out as some kind of problem, the logic is consistent.
>That wanted to have exclude others from a community is wrong.
Look at Muslim refugees for example. Many of them are inbred, they are taught from a young age that Allah will reward them for murdering infidels, and they are part of a wacky, violent ideology. If someone is a really stupid cult member and they want to kill me, excuse me, but I don't want them anywhere near me.
>They only protect property when they think it benefits money making.
Uh, what? You do understand that the second amendment isn't about protecting "property", it's about self-preservation and defending yourself.

An unholy child of classical liberalism and Lycurgian militarism

>also not letting everyone vote is a slippery slope to a bigger government (ie. who decides who votes)

Lol, this egalitarian shit is cute.

So you think people who don't own property should be able to vote for the property of others? Its dumb fuck thinking like this that got us into the mess.

Sorry, but poor niggers, spics and other minorities are not going to vote the way you want. They are going to vote to fuck you in the ass and steal your shit. Every single time.

Market feudalism.

I'm certainly Socially Libertarian. However, I believe there is sometimes a need for the government to step in during economic crises, and for a nation to survive it needs strong borders.

This one is lacking the fifth and last stage.

Look at modern libertarians like Gary Johnson, watch the video.
They love violence if it means "everyone will be happier" meme.
They are dumb animals who are only libertarian because of money.

Do you have one with a fifth stage? I was unaware that there was one

Just learn to think for yourself and stop following what everyone else is doing. I'm more of a Centrist than anything (the Libertarian Party in the US is probably too Anarchist for me personally).

Holy shit, Norway.

Theology is the only way

Turns out I had it all along. I thought I did not.

i dont have an opinion behold my wisdom

There's a distinction between party Libertarians and small-l libertarians. The Libertarian party has always been shit.

Stop. My dick can only get so hard.

>ideology

A syncretic ideology combining various elements from integral nationalism, classical liberalism, municipalism, co-operativism & corporatism, and dirigism.

But I'd basically be happy with anything from the following list:
>Integralism
>Paleoconservatism
>National socialism
>Liberal nationalism/libertarian nationalism
>Hoppean libertarianism
>Red Tory conservatism

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>I'm a libertarian

Hoppe libertarianism is just anarcho-capitilism.

That meme is just a person's confused personal story on determining where he is politically.

I'm sorry, but it seems you'll have to be physically removed from society, so to speak.

Don't tread on me!

Its not as bad as it was leading up to the 2008 financial crisis. The jews at the investment banks and rating agencies were able to take the entire country down.

>Look at modern libertarians like Gary Johnson, watch the video.
I'm not endorsing Gary Johnson or something. There are some people who like the libertarian party, then there are philosophical libertarians. I'm voting for Donald Trump.
>They love violence if it means "everyone will be happier" meme.
No, one of the problems with libertarians is actually that they are too pacifistic. Libertarians need to start kicking some fucking ass again - In the interest of self-preservation. Not to force people to have the same ideals as us.
>They are dumb animals who are only libertarian because of money.
Libertarians don't care that much about money. This is a meme from the left, it's to make libertarians appear inconsiderate towards the poor. I take it you're some sort of communist / socialist? Well I think the way to help poor people is to go out and give them money, and give them food, and help them get a job. You think the way to help the poor, is to steal money from everybody and call it "taxes", and redistribute the wealth, and it's so normal that everybody just goes along with it and doesn't see it for what it really is - Stealing. Those evil right-wingers who don't care about the poor actually donate more money to charity than leftists do.

OP is american.

Feudalism was really based

Pinochetian Minarchism

>Constantly thinning the number of sjws via helicopter
>All benefits of a capitalist system with no cuckoldry
>Did I mention the mothafuckin helicopters?

>mfw that meme was my exact transition with all 5 stages over the last 10 years

By the logic presented, you need to change stage 2 from libertarian to anarcho-capitalist and change stage 4 from traditionalist to "Classical Liberalism". "Liberalism" went off track when they abandoned the enlightenment era definition of egalitarianism. Traditionalism as presented by your graphic is classical enlightenment era liberalism.

Letting everyone vote is the slippery slope to the bullshit we have now.

I'm generally a libertarian.

1) But I absofuckinglutely support CLOSED borders. I completely disagree with libertarians on this issue.

2) I support a small government because I believe that big government eventually devolves into a facist nanny state and patronage system for and in the name of struggling ethnic groups

3) I agree that climate change is an issue , pollution needs to be regulated

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>report results
>if you end up in red, kill yourself

t. Teenager

This actually. I think our nation at least would be better off as a confederation of independent states and nations rather than a hyper centralized federation.

Libertarian Fascist. You will be free and independent or you will keep doing your own thing so long as you let your neighbor do his own thing too.

Commies get the fuck out.

t. Drooling Fucking Retard

This for the most part, Libertarianism can only work in a homogeneous society.

Democracy worked just fine before we let women and non-tax payers vote.

This. Managing a big country is the same as managing a small one. We just focus too much on large centralized government when we need to be looking smaller, at the community level.

I personally don't believe democracy is working or can work for a larger nation unless there is a standard for who can vote and participate in government.

Move to North Korea if you want closed borders and no competition.