Spain YES!

I can't handle it anymore, Sup Forums, this country used to be half-decent just a few decades ago but nowadays it's just an endless string of Sweden-tier lunacy despite being much poorer and having a lot of actual important problems to address.

Latest developments:
- Podemos (ultra-cucked far left wing party that seems straight out of some American university, literally talks about "white males" in Spain and admires Chávez) is the most voted party among people under 45
- The (only) conservative party has approved a new law that lets everyone decide their gender at will without any requirement, requires gender ideology to be taught at all schools and forbids medical/psychological examination
- Catalonia (the most important region in terms of economic output) forbids any military presence in its territory, including parades
- After a bullfighter was killed recently, fuckloads of people offline and online celebrated it and insulted his wife when the last time it happened everyone offered their condolences

And it's only going to get worse, we don't even have a proper right wing nationalist party like other European countries...

Honestly, I can't imagine living the rest of my life like this unless I isolate myself from all this garbage, but even then the laws, taxes and shit economy caused by mismanagement are going to affect me directly. I think I'm just going to learn Japanese and move there.

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atlasofeuropeanvalues.eu/new/europa.php?ids=193&year=2008
sputniknews.com/asia/20160708/1042643974/japan-migrants-traditions.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nippon_Kaigi
eleconomista.es/elecciones/generales/resultados/Catalunya
libertaddigital.com/espana/2015-11-01/los-pujol-tienen-exactamente-3300-millones-de-euros-de-momento-1276560527/
elplural.com/2016/02/24/la-fortuna-oculta-del-clan-pujol-podría-ascender-más-de-3000-millones-en-el-extranjero
europapress.es/catalunya/noticia-parlament-pide-govern-prohibir-desfiles-militares-catalunya-20160714195707.html
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start your own then nigger

That's pretty fucked up bro, but to be fair, bullfighting is rather barbarous, and if you're stupid enough to get in the ring, then you deserve what you get. Maybe try wearing armor instead of a fruity get-up.

They will go too far and then the moderates start voting right wing and then you begin killing them. That's how history works. In cycles.

Look at it as the beginning of the return to fascism. The pendulum swing.

It wouldn't get any support. There are already parties like that but they get like 1000 votes. Spain is the most leftist country in Europe according to the European Values Study: atlasofeuropeanvalues.eu/new/europa.php?ids=193&year=2008

fuck off paki

Is Seville cucked? I went there two months ago and man, that city was beautiful. So many attractive people too.

Would be a shame if it was plagued by leftism.

this
its the Weimar moment kicking in, Spain

Bullfighting is a beautiful Spanish tradition that should be cherished

It's kicking in all over the world

The whole country is cucked, with Catalonia leading the way. In the south, traditions (including religious celebrations and bullfighting) are more prevalent but they're lazy and corrupt and vote leftist parties, and in the north they're Podemos-voting cucks.

pahahha funny thing is i actual am one

HAHAHA WAITING FOR SPAIN TO COLLAPSE, WE WILL BE FREE

How are Greece, Sweden and Germany not the most leftist countries? Greeks are ruled by literal communists and Swedes and Germans are actively trying to genocide themselves

I live in Ireland and I call bullshit on that map. The far left here has huge grassroots support to the extent they can openly intimidate and threaten people without police intervention. Not to mention the fact the republican movement in the north has been hijacked by SJWs who want the brits out and muslims in.

>I think I'm just going to learn Japanese and move there.

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Good luck having one of the most racist and homogenous cultures to accept you. They don't even accept a majority of Muslim migrants.

sputniknews.com/asia/20160708/1042643974/japan-migrants-traditions.html

>By the way, Anime and Japan are different. Don't forget that.

Our two main political parties are both right wing and nationalist. Northern Ireland doesn't count. They coloured you with our dark red by mistake.

>with Catalonia leading the way
oh but we are not cucked

we are crashing this country with no survivors

The last time your country at least half-decent was under Franco.

You will be one of the few states in Europe that will surely fall to communism in just 15 years (other will be Greece). The rest of Western Europe will not be communist, because they will be pseudo-anarchist, thanks to all the negros and sandnegros who will not keep up the state.

you miserable cuck. You won't even fight for your country, for your tradition and history. You just want to run away. In turn you will be the thing you hate by being a non-integrated migrant to ANOTHER country. Protip: Japan DOESN'T like migrants. They don't like you. They want you to leave.

Be a man ffs. Grow a spine and get organised. There are people who care, but they are like you - spineless and contemplating their escape to some imagined utopia.

You are no better than the migrants from the Middle East and Africa. You just want to go somewhere else and not have to deal with the problems in your own country. You are the thing you hate.

>Implying FF or FG are nationalist
>Ignoring the rise of the far left both north and south along with demands for more refugees
>The fact protestsing against refugees is enough to get you BTFO by faggot uni students while Garda casually watch

I don't think we live on the same island

The Catalans are one of the most retarded nation right now in Europe, next to Swedes.
They are communists, but want to secede and make a state based on nationalism. I certainly hope (or rather, know) that all of you will get stabbed in the back again, just like during the last century. This time you imbeciles should be purged, though. I hope Spain will have the courage for this.

must be terrible to live in that country as a red-pilled person. stay strong OP. don't go to Japan tho, you'll feel lonely. stay put, and prepare for the revolution. your country will need strong men when there's change on the horizon.

try to live your everyday life without following politics, find a way to shield yourself from libshit marxist faggots in your everyday life, concentrate on a hobby and find joy in something by shutting everything else out.

same with us

we can't even have right wing parties here

A country with a perpetual gay lisp and high voice can ultimately never ammount to much.

>bullfighter story
>muh feelings
Can't give two shits about degenerate entertainment, sorry. Death is part of the "art"

I am surprised by how many people buy into the Japanese dream. Their country is even way more feminised than the West. 99% of men act like the woman act here. They have a similar guilt hammered into their heads from early childhood like the Germans.

I'm on holiday in Alicante for two months, how cucked is it? I go there fairly often but I've never cared about the politics and stuff there before.

- said the country who has invited ten millions of negros, muslims, and indiands into his own territory, for free.

Word, we're not too far into the shit hole but slowly going down. Our far left already proposed shit like "our id card is misogynistic, we need to change that", our economy is tanking yet again thanks to these fuckers and that's what they worry about.

>I think I'm just going to learn Japanese and move there
Japan is for Japanese.It
should be your duty as a Spanish citizen to work towards improving your own country, not jumping ship.

>Guy gets killed, then the bull and its mother have to be killed because tradition
>Expecting compassion
Fuck off

>The seperatist region doesn't want the military there


That being said, the first two points are pretty cucked.

If you had a proper government I could understand that you wanted to get out of this mess, but Catalonia is Just Fuck My Shit Up: The Region: a mega-fucked up place full of above-Sweden cuckoldry, muslims and immigrants, corruption (Pujol alone has robbed more than everyone in Andalucia together). If Catalonia got independent, they would elect someone who would put Trudeau to shame.

Greece and Germany have far right parties in the parliament, Spain doesn't and even our only conservative party is pretty cucked. There are zero women on the Greek government for example, so Syriza is as "new-leftist" as other western parties.

I know and I wouldn't expect to be treated as a Japanese since I'm not one, but they're essentially the only wealthy, advanced hard right wing society where authority and self-discipline still exist. I'd be content with living in such a society and I could contribute since I'm an engineer.

There is NO WAY to save Spain. The people here don't want to be saved, they want to destruct themselves like they've been doing for most of our history.

Look at the who's ruling Japan right now: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nippon_Kaigi

Spain also has openly fascist Franco worshippers though

The far-right vs far-left attitudes of the civil war haven't really gone away as far as I can tell

This

Syriza isn't as*
Look at who's*

>Honestly, I can't imagine living the rest of my life like this unless I isolate myself from all this garbage
just grow up and learn to ignore this stuff and the people who says it
the rage time(like 1984) is when you come to pol

Magyarbro, it's their escape fantasy. All cucks have it. They shy away from having to actually have to stand up for their principles, for their societal future. They fear conflict and having to be put to the test.

Japan represents some kind of heaven where pretty kawaii traditional women will swoon at the clammy, overweight NEET and they can be highly paid to teach english, spending the nights watching anime and fucking their 10/10 gf. If anyone has been to Japan, they will realise this is a fucking pipedream. It's a nice place to visit, that's all. Leave Japan to the Japanese. Stay in Europe and fight.

We've become a generation of pansies and faggots. Look, we all want to be comfy, but the shame of having abandoned your home to live in hiding, hoping the hordes don't come and get you is not a life at all.

But if you manage to die when EVERYTHING is made so that the bullfighter has the best chance of survival, you deserve that death and mockery afterwards.

>Podemos is very voted

Must be the reason why pp was elected.

>PP is conservative

No, PP is a den of thieves

>Catalonia wants to go away!

No wonder, so do I

>Bullfighting is no more celebrated

Oh?

>It's going to get worse

Yes, it is, your beloved right wing party has left the countries money traumatized, especially the one destined to people who are crippled and such.

My God, it's that bad?

but why do you think you should even be able to go to Japan? What amazing skill do you offer them other than immense cowardice and faggotry.

There is always a way to fix society, nothing is ever lost. Honestly, after Brexit, it showed me that there are lots of people who want a better future, they just don't know how to get there. We need everyone, we need to organise and have leadership. We need to believe in ourselves.

Yeah it's kinda preachy and gay, but that's the truth.

At this rate Mexico will become the best country on earth by doing nothing at all.

Look at how Japan is being ruled by the UN now.
They are taking migrants too, from the other side of the world.
Out of the 27 migrants they received, 2 (at least) turned out to be rapists. Yet they will admit more.

Just a few decades before, there were still men who had any virtue left in their souls to rise up for their own good and kill off the darkness.

Defeatists shall be executed or exiled.

Fuck off.

do whatever the fuck you want spain , just keep La Liga safe

Well written.
Agreed.

If you want to run away, at least run to Russia.

The circus is getting fucking torn down after this madness

podemos=shit
psoe=shit
ciudadanos=wtf u doin mang
pp=not bad
>VOX=real right
problem here is nobody is voting vox, so its not a real alternative.
Yonkis, hippies, whores, inmigrants, gypsies, lazy ass drunk south spaniards, faggots and young people failing at life are voting podemos. They are already fuked up, so no issues fukin up the rest of us.
if some leftist shit someday reaches power in Spain, violence is solution. Army, police, Guardia Civil, The Capital are against podemos, so it would be an easy task.

At first I thought you're right but your're nothing less than a weaboo.

>I'm an engineer

oooh, people, control your orgasms

How do you expect to win when the whole fucking country has lost their mind and the trend only increases each year? The only reason why we're not governed by Podemos is that the old people who lived with Franco aren't dead yet. What are you going to do? Create the eleventh nationalist party that will get 1% of the votes that the fucking animalist party (PACMA) gets? Start an insurrection only to spend your life in jail if you fail or be shot down by NATO forces if you win, like in Serbia?

Face it, the society here has chosen to jump off a cliff and with each passing year the decline only accelerates.

>There are zero women on the Greek government for example

thats not correct

>pp=not bad
>not
>bad

negro por favor

>PP
>the refugees welcome protransgender party
>right wing

Hahaha nice try podemita piece of shit

Some irish storm faggot made that Web page to discredit the jew and he isn't even an elected politician anymore. He is gone.

As for the police standing back it's because skangers are skangers. It's a good thing when they beat each other.

so u voting podemos?
maybe ill kill u at next civil war, mate.

Wait a minute, if Spain is under right wing parties, why are people blaming the left wing parties on the current state of affairs?

>literally invaded by muslims
>reconquered with the help of white europeans
>complain about white men

wow i hate spain now

No but I'm not voting to the party that practically sold their own country, and I'm not going to preted that they're """""""""not bad"""""""""

Catalan independence when?

I think southern med countries tendency to lean towards anarchism and leftism has a lot to do with the drug usage lifestyle

At least in Greece(and in Spain from what I know)everybody is 420 everyday,drinking booze and chilling and rolling mdma in the weekend

Its impossible to go right-wing with a lifestyle like that

There arent any right wing parties here
And you dont even know half the story, we cant even celebrate the day we finally kicked out the invaders without antifa showing up and calling it rascist fascism.

1. There are no right wing parties in Spain, PP is centrist at most, and totally cucked in social matters (and corrupt as fuck too).
2. Spain has always been governed by leftist parties except during 1996-2004 and 2012-now. And education, street politics, etc. have always been completely dominated by the left. In the recent years, new radical leftist parties have popped up and gotten a lot of votes and power in regional governments. Also, according to polls Podemos leads the vote among everyone but old people.

>admires Chávez

Give them what they want, and start kidnapping, torturing, and killing them at black sites.

But yes, tough shit, Spain. This is the way it goes. Times are bad, and socialists start promising they'll magically fix it all by stealing money from undisclosed "haves" for the "havenots" who are supposed to vote for them. All the while solidifying their own power and filling their own pockets, of course.

Socialism should just be banned.

BTW, I always hate it how lefties interprete gender science as "just decide on your own". I mean, there *is* an extensive body of science on this shit at this point, and we can diagnose transgenderism and gender dysphoria through that. So if you want to be all-inclusive, THAT is the way you go about it. Weed out the crazies, treat the legit cases. But the left just goes full retard and insists on their own fantasy bullshit.

Politics could do with more inclusion of proper science. No law that depends on some sort of theory should be allowed if it's unsupported by scientific findings. Of course, that would be a quick end to immigration and gibsmedat policies...

They are the biggest cuckolds of the country though

This was a reply for

Look bro's, you don't know how lucky you are. You have practically zero muslims. Your government, for some reason, opted out completely on the madness that is mass immigration.

Them whining about petty feminist issues is a godsent compared to your government actively encouraging and covering for islamic terrorism.

>I think I'm just going to learn Japanese and move there
Good luck with that. Real life in Japan isn't like what you're thinking it is.

Trust me, they haven't come here because we're poor and have no generous welfare like other countries. It's practically our only saving grace, because if it were for our politicians we would be a caliphate already. Just so you know, the Catalonian government imported niggers and pakis instead of south americans because they didn't speak Spanish.

Guys I honestly do want to start my own party.
I think I would have enough resources to do it, but I want to finish studying and start something up.

Personally I have quite a bit of experience with public speaking and politics.

General policies would be:
>moderate autarky
>EU sceptic but rather huge EU reforms (good idea but only possible in a conservative manner or else it breaks itself down)
>Distancing from US (not shut down bases but not so close, I feel like more distance from US more distance from social problems)
>Deep social reforms like VERY deep. Spain is in an eternal cuck-mentality. I mean it, so many capable entrepreneurs and technology made in Spain yet the general populace still has this loser mentality and anti-Spain vibe. This must be fixed.

Spaniards ask me more if youre interested, but I will do this 100% within the next 10 years. Also let me know if youre interested and I will try to keep contact with you about how everything is going.

Ah but I do recall in an earlier thread, some Spaniard said that there are only centrists in Spanish politics since you all loathe extremism. Is it true?

So PP, a centrist party is in power but yet is not in charge of education and street politics? Also what social matters are they cucked in?

voting ciudadanos is like a russian roulette. nobody knows what the hell is in alberts head.
sometimes in love with rajoy
some other times blowjobing #pdrsnchz

>tfw my best friend's gf is spanish (from basque country) and votes podemos
I've a hard time understanding why anyone would vote for them. In many countries and, hell, even in France I understand the appeal of socialism/communism and their free shit retoric but why would anyone want communism in an already broke ass country such as Spain? Makes no sense. Even if their ideas had any chance to work, no single country and company would miss the opportunity to shit on spain if the regime threatened their interests.

It's preferable to keep sending our wildcard

ok. i will be your Death Minister.
im not bad at oratory (learned a lot from hitlers speeches)
im good looking and charismatic(im cutting at the moment, ripped as hell)
Demands:
no asking for the killings i order
black uniforms and leather jackets.
1million euros per mounth

>They are communists
are you mentally challenged? the most voted party in every election celebrated in Catalonia since the fall of Franco has been won by the center-right catalan nationalist party

how are we communists?

We should make our own general in Sup Forums and mem e a candidate for president.

>of above-Sweden cuckoldry, muslims and immigrants, corruption (Pujol alone has robbed more than everyone in Andalucia together)

>manolos actually believe this

>Catalonia forbids any military presence in its territory
They can't do that. Source?

heard intentions of changing electoral law so the nationalists have no representantion at congress
it woulb be noice, dont ya think, lad

Fuck you sound dumb.

No offense, Hispania, but I meant Portugal. There are literally no more than 10,000 muslims in Portugal. You can find a similar number in a good-sized Dutch city. Your percentage of goatfuckers is similar to ours.

Whatever Portugal is doing wrong, they've done the most important thing right. And notice how no-one ever gives them shit over it? Apparently it *is* that easy.

He could have saved you.

That would be a great way to add fuel to the fire

Oh they didn't opted out, they actually wanted to get as many as they could, even going to Greece and try to convince them to come here. We had some liberal family going there and actually picking some and bringing them here, literally human trafficking, I can bet they'll be begging for government support because "we wanted to help these poor rapefugees but it turns out it's expensive, give us money". Government gave the few that did come a brand new place, possible jobs, school etc. Thing is some of them went missing, some, is said, went to Sweden and Germany. At least the populace sees them as the opportunistic shits they are, not refugees. But I agree, Islam is a non issue around here.

They banned military parades? Shame, I really liked them...

I'm gonna have to ask Carles to unban them.

>oh but we are not cucked

Yes you are, I'm an immigrant living in BCN and I can safely say that your levels of cuckoldry are undeniable.

You are still butthurt over an invasion 300 years ago and have no reason to secede except "muh pesetas going to andalucia"

I see out my window and see a bunch of homeless fucks that Ada Colau lets sleep and beg on the street, not to count that she put a huge "Refugees Welcome" banner on the Ayuntament and made a protest because not enough shitskins were moving to live here.

They would need to change the Constitution to do that, it's not going to happen.

Thats definitely bullshit. I had a friend who just last summer he and his platoon went on an exercise near Tarragona.

It's not going to get better, is it?

Ramiro Ledesma > Jose Antonio

eleconomista.es/elecciones/generales/resultados/Catalunya
Indeed, very right wing nationalist.

libertaddigital.com/espana/2015-11-01/los-pujol-tienen-exactamente-3300-millones-de-euros-de-momento-1276560527/
elplural.com/2016/02/24/la-fortuna-oculta-del-clan-pujol-podría-ascender-más-de-3000-millones-en-el-extranjero

3% of every public contract during 30 years. What do you think, Jordi? Not even the Andalucians rob as much as your politicians.

europapress.es/catalunya/noticia-parlament-pide-govern-prohibir-desfiles-militares-catalunya-20160714195707.html

It's a really weird meme, I don't get it either.
It's always the right wing nationalists that are the most voted but somehow we're communists.

I don't understand these shitposters.

>but they're essentially the only wealthy, advanced hard right wing society

You could always try moving to Israel. I'm sure they'd receive everyone with open arms

>Latest developments:
>Mandatory Spanish qt girlfriend for Dutch user

>- The (only) conservative party has approved a new law that lets everyone decide their gender at will without any requirement, requires gender ideology to be taught at all schools and forbids medical/psychological examination

That's good, however. That way you can fuck women quotas. You simply declare you are a woman.

>insulted his wife

That's also good. Women need to be insulted and degraded 24/7. It shows that people are getting redpilled.

Carles Puigdemont is my uncle


AMA

There's a huge difference between forbidding military parades and "forbidding military presence".

The point is that Catalonians are the biggest cucks in the western world right now, it's pitiful.