Why does Sup Forums keep pretending this wasn't an awesome fight?

Why does Sup Forums keep pretending this wasn't an awesome fight?

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>pretending

The editing is so poor and the whole scene looks like concrete

looks like an online game of GTA IV with mods

it was fun but it felt really hollow. the final fight with cap and bucky and tony was much better

This

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>When awful Japanese toy commercials have better fight scenes than big budget Hollywood movies

What made it fun?

I don't know. I chalk it up to Sup Forums being Sup Forums. Most people probably think they are being funny. It's part of Sup Forums culture to not like things

They will get over it when they turn 20

The stairwell fight with Cap and Bucky is the best fight scene in the movie imho, but this wasn't bad. Everyone's motive is established and then they duke it out. I didn't expect to find any deeper meaning in this, it's just a really fun fight.

t. Grinch

The entire scene was filmed on greenscreen yet they chose to set it at a concrete airport on a cloudy day and then mute the colors
Why?

Overall the scene was not great. Some of the editing and CG was really bad. Also for the entire 20 minutes the characters communicate exclusively through quips.
It felt so out of place with the rest of the movie

The fight had no real reason, no tension. They weren't real enemies.

I agree. They weren't taking it seriously, so how could I? Some of it was even kind of funny at the time, but a playground fight had no place in the middle of a movie called "Civil War."

Exactly this
No high stakes

It's an ok fight but it's really inconsistent with the tone of the rest of the movie.

It feels really weird to have this scene's jokey quipping and cartoonish stuff with Ant-Man and Spider-Man, in the same movie where

>a guy gets dangled upside down and drowned in a sink
>Peggy Carter dies and gets a dramatic funeral scene
>a UN meeting gets bombed, with accompanying 9/11 imagery
>Bucky is shown somewhat brutally killing Tony's parents

I keep saying, the first and third acts of Civil War are pretty good, but the middle section/airport battle feels like it belongs in a different movie, and drags it down a few notches.

This is the first legitimate criticism I've seen here on Sup Forums about this and I think it's actually pretty accurate. I loved Civil War but this is 100% true. I think there is enough levity in the first and 3rd acts to warrant the tone of the 2nd act but I feel this is a valid point. Are you sure you're supposed to be on Sup Forums?

That fight was good. It was the first half of the movie that was absolutely terrible. Fucking shaky cam. My eyes hurt watching it. Hollywood was suppose to be done with fucking shaky cam.

It's fun to watch them interact, but you know none of them will get seriously hurt or die, so who cares.

>awesome fight

>Why does Sup Forums keep pretending this wasn't an awesome fight?
how so? an awesome fight needs stakes, needs real danger. none of which existed in that scene. add poor editing to it and you get shit.

Captain America tried killing Spider-Man and Hawkeye tried killing Black Panther. Pay attention before bitching next time.

Would've been way better if they filmed it more like a back-alley brawl. Raw and intimate. This running segment served no purpose the way they shot it. And the lighthearted back and forths made it appear like none of them gave a damn about the outcome. Considering they were supposedly defending their convictions (besides the dumb diversion plan) it just didn't feel right.
As it is, it might've been passable for capecrap, but as a sequel to Winter Soldier it was a drop in quality all-round.

At least we got some more porn out of it.

>Black Widow and Hawkeye.

They're the SHIELD comrades in the Avengers it makes sense that they would to easy on each other.

The only one you could argue that is trying to kill anybody was Black Panther, because he had legitimate beef and not friends with any of them. The rest were pulling their punches or going easy.

Why did Clint come out of retirement just to join cap fighting against widow in the first place?

Cap and Spiderman were casually chatting. He didnt really want to kill him.

Everyone complains about jokes but no one explains how individual lines are out of character or context. Same generalizations over and over.

Whole movie was just a mess
>suddenly care about collateral
>implication that the UN have any ounce of real power whatsoever

Fucking hilarious, the same UN who put Saudi Arabia in charge of human rights.

Because most of us graduated elementary school and don't play with action figures.

Honestly I just thought the whole movie was really dull, drab and forgettable. It's not a Marvel vs DC thing for me, because DC is fucking shit up in their own way, and trying to fix it by copying Marvel's failing formula.

I liked most of the Phase 1 films, and they've had a few good ones more recently, too. But the "Avengers"-related stuff just feels like product, at this point. You don't get the sense that anyone behind the camera believes or even cares if it's a good movie, they're just sticking to a release schedule, and laying the groundwork for the next 5 pointless, joyless films. If not for the dumbass costumes, this wouldn't feel like a superhero movie at all.

>whole movie is a mess
>here are things I dont like that dont make the movie a mess

I'm trying really hard to remember a single good fight in a marvel movie...

Actually Im trying really hard to remember a good scene in a marvel movie

Scratch that I cant remember any marvel movie and Ive seen them all

If the costumes are for dumbasses why did you even watch it? "Superhero movie" is not a genre, Spider-Man and Watchmen are both superhero movies. The rest of your post is pretty empty, it would hold just as little merit if someone was saying saying positive blanket statements.

They also didn't allow enough buildup for the villain. While I like the actor, he didn't have a distinguished look or any memorable traits to compensate for his lack of screen-time and overall significance.
The main conflict being among the avengers doesn't excuse that shit.

The Cap vs Bucky "highway fight" in Winter Soldier is a good fight scene. It's little too heavy on the quick cuts/shakycam, but nowhere near as bad as Civil War, like this

Oh wow, compelling argument. I guess I really liked the movie after all.

Would you agree that "The First Avenger" was a much better Captain America movie than "Civil War?" Or will you just happily guzzle down whatever shit they feed you, without recognizing a difference?

People unironically want him to dress up in a purple costume and fight captain america, or use the super soldiers to kill the Avengers. Having a normal guy wronged by the Avengers ties into the the theme of the movie and beats the alternative of heroes teaming up to fight bad guy after fighting

What Gta had better lighting

I guess winter soldier had some good scenes, true. i remember the elevator one and the hydra guy in the computer

They quickly fucked up every respect that movie had build up though

Maybe try being a little more defensive and hostile and it'll help sway people to your side of the argument, I bet that will work.

Its not an argument, you were sharing your preferences and I was sharing mine. I can see how someone who has trouble understanding social situations would get that impression. Its funny how in a post asking for an argument you're telling me if I dont agree with your opinion i'm wrong, to say the least. Not worth saying if I do or dont to someone with such an argumentative attitude.

Cap and Bucky scenes in general are only a fraction away from turning into gay for pay porn.

>The rest of your post is pretty empty, it would hold just as little merit if someone was saying saying positive blanket statements.
No it's really not. In "Phase 1" and the earlier stages of their existence, Marvel made an effort to hire good directors, with their own visions, and gave them a fair bit of creative freedom.

By the time "The Avengers" came and went, the producers/executives felt like they had a dependable formula down, and they could get away with hiring hacker, less experienced directors who'd be more willing to stick to a "house style."

The result, by this point, is that nobody's putting much care at all into the visual design or emotional arc of these films. They're pretty bare-bones, they just stick the actors in their suits, put them in front of a green-screen, and read the script. There aren't many memorable set-pieces at all, and the ones they have look kinda cheap and amateurish. All these movies just blend together for me now.

Why are you so desperate to defend a corporation that steadily decreases the quality of their product, and keeps the price the same?

It's amazing how they managed to make action feel dull.

>friendly reminder that Season 4 of Agents of SHIELD is the best piece of MCU media ever created

Why is the guy with the arrows running towards the fight? Shouldn't he be in the back using his ranged weapon at range?

Nope, I completely agree with the less stereotypical villain approach. He just didn't have enough screen time and could've done with a slightly more impactful presence/framing.

...

vision - look at buckie and amerifag run towards the hangar with a plane it it.

what do i do shoot

a tower so it fall in front of the entrance instead of shooting the plane

grey
sterile
lifeless
boring
expected
no tension
no consequence
too many cuts

dog shit

Sure thing, thanks for letting us know. I will definitely give it a watch.
Don't forget to screencap this reply to cash in your check.

My theater had people coming around handing out orange slices at the end. It was great.

Add to this the fact that nobody gave a shit if they got hit by anything Giant Antman could have stood on everyone and they would have continued the fight after a few quips.

Why should I care about characters when they are invincible quip machines that don't take anything seriously?

Yes it really is. I dont understand how this is difficult for you to get. This entire line "They're pretty bare-bones, they just stick the actors in their suits, put them in front of a green-screen, and read the script. There aren't many memorable set-pieces at all" means nothing.
Its empty generalizations not applying to anything specific, I get nothing more out of this than if you just called it all shit and nothing else. Saying the plot structure, character arc, and villain setup is too similar in Iron Man, Doctor Strange, and Ant Man, to the point that it feels like a formula is a criticism. Using a thousand synonyms for "bad" and not criticizing anything directly is an empty criticism. I dont give a shit about your preferences or inability to distinguish discussion from arguing, insisting everyone who could possibly disagree is "defending the corporation" you're ridiculous. And im sure, despite the fact that im not even talking about the movies anymore, this somehow makes me a marvel fanboy.

WHEN THEY HIT EACH OTHER AND SAID THE MEMES LMAO

maybe they only have 1 plane

Giant Man

You're meant to be entertained by this fight scene, that's why nobody takes the fight seriously and why there's humor.

Or are you all literally autistic?

>You're meant to be entertained by this fight scene
But I am not entertained, and that's why I am here

It unironically is. It's far better than any of the Netflix shows.

those alvin and the chipmunk movies are supposed to be entertaining too.

funny how that doesn't work out.

Then I'll just say it's shit, then. I'm not a professional film critic so I guess I don't have the vocabulary to be more specific, so it's tough to put my finger on exactly what's missing from the latest batch of Marvel films.

But you know what I mean, right? They're $200-million movies that look like $5 million, tops. Visually, nothing looks "real," you can tell you're just looking at actors on a green screen. There's no dramatic weight or tension to anything that's happening, you don't really feel like the stakes are "real" for any of the characters.

I know I'm generalizing again, I don't know how to describe this particular brand of apathetic shittiness, but you can definitely feel it.

It's not just Marvel either, a lot of recent blockbusters have the same issue. And it's always the ones where studios pick some young hack director that they can push around. I'm not anti-Marvel, I just miss the feel of their earlier films where they seemed to care more about quality.

tension and stakes are entertaining

meaninglessness is boring

unless you're autistic

JUST TURN YOUR BRAIN OFF BRO

There isnt a realistic way to portray pic related, my friend.

>meanwhile,at Netflix's shooting set

youtube.com/watch?v=B66feInucFY

GTA5, Vice City, San Andreas

I was never in this for "realism," I just want fun

Kek

>the noble captain North America tried to kill a minor

>poorly cut
>fighting choreography is boring
>everything's grey (they fucked it up with the editing, it was sunny when the scene was shot)
>no stakes
>literally nothing happens

Fuck off douche bag, the Alvin movies are pretty freaking hilarious for what they are especially with based David Cross and Jason Lee
>wow Ian you know how to start a fire?
>are you kidding me? I'm in the music industry. This one time in the studio snoop didn't have a lighter and I got a blaze going by rubbing two carrot sticks together

And this is the problem. It's never a 'civil war', it essentially just amounts to a friendly fight with your mates.

>civil war
>actually is civil just some friends joshing around wrestling

The 5 hardcore DCucks that shit post on Sup Forums everyday want you to think that.

Should have been filmed at night in the rain with added instagram filters right?

>The stairwell fight with Cap and Bucky is the best fight scene in the movie

This. Pretty much any fight scene from Winter Soldier is better than anything in Civil War.

Then we're resetting our IPs like mad bastards to cover all the responses in this thread.

Except for the part where Rhodes gets paralyzed, most likely taking him out of action for the rest of the MCU.

(the confirmed cast for Infinity War doesn't include Don Cheadle, while it includes pretty much everyone else from Civil War)

>when weebs are allowed to have opinions

>he WOULDN'T go gay for pay for chris evans

get out

Wasn't that, the one injury, a total accident though? Only seem the movie once way back when it came out, but I thought he missed and hit him

Yes, it was an accident, but it still means the fight had at least one real, lasting consequence.

What are you even trying to say?
The movie wasn't good because they weren't trying to kill eachother?

Isn't that being a blatant edgelord?

If you hadn't noticed, Sup Forums is objectively wrong about everything.
Everything it hates is okay at worst and good at best.
Everything it loves it loves only to be contrarian.
It is one part shitposter, one part bitter robot, one part bored teenager, one part NEET.

its popular so thus has to be hated by contrarians on here

the entire movie was bad
not just this air port sequence

>inb4 people pretend to have enjoyed it
nice meme

The movie wasn't good for a lot of reasons and lack of violence is probably one of the last reasons why. I was simply asking a question, autist.

The fight in Bucky's apartment building is good

Peggy's funeral scene is good

Aside from a few shots of Tony's head/armor with questionable CGI, the end fight is good

>A fight between two ideologies at the cost of their lives and friends
>reduced to this "We're still friends right?"

marvel didn't get the context they fucking raped its corpse and quippified it

There first time i saw it I loved it. Then I watched it a few months later after watching John Wick 2, the raid 2 and that airport fight suddenly became such shit

>all the choppy editing and quick cuts
>quips every minute
>nothing really at steak
>cgi cgi cgi

It's better than the comic, not difficult. Stop making yourself look fucking stupid

>better than the comic

jfc. marvelfags are this dillusioned

i'm done. i'm so fucking done

Here's why:

>A team of Good Guys vs a team of Good Guys (for a change) where each team are both the protagonists and antagonists for one another, creating an unusual dynamic.
>Debatable moral issues motivate dramatic tension between the characters
>Audience is actively involved choosing sides in the conflict.
>Entire cities aren't destroyed, which is refreshing both visually and conceptually for this genre. The deserted airport setting was clearly, deliberately, anti- Zod&Supes-destroy-Metropolis.
>Spiderman vs Bucky and Falcon
>Spiderman vs Giant Man
>T'challa vs Cap
>Spiderman vs Cap

It's a crowd pleaser. If you were bored by it you're probably overthinking it.

jfc. millarfags are this dillusioned

i'm done. i'm so fucking done

looks like it was filmes at fucking toronto pearson airport

When I read this post all I could think of was "This is Reddit, this is memes"

Why are people mad its not a deathmatch?
>we are trying to get on an airplane
>stop, we're apprehending you
>they get apprehended
Why would they slaughter each other? If it was setup differently and they were still going easy that would be different.