Why do Americans in Sup Forums like crying about le evil leftists while they actually barely have even...

Why do Americans in Sup Forums like crying about le evil leftists while they actually barely have even social-democrates, not even talking about communists, anarchists, real socialists etc? I mean, almost all their politicians are shades of neoliberalism, Republicans are just more socially conservative, Democrats are slightly more progressive. Wtf?

How is that different from Russia how much do your political parties honestly vary and how much political freedom do you have?

Because Americans are brainwashed by porky.

I am talking about USA. Why do you ask about Russia? We are not even a democracy.

Because ever since the end of WWII and the beginning of the Cold War, the US government would be wary of labor movements and leftists organizations gaining too much power and undermining their influence both in terms of economic hegemony and foreign police, so any time a political movement too far to the left of liberal capitalism gained traction there were concerted efforts on behalf of the US Government to sabotage or dismantle it. This was especially notable beginning around the 1970s and 80s, when the Western powers began to embrace neoliberalism, which championed small government with minimal regulation and lower taxes for the wealthy, and the weakening and repeal of labor laws.

The only "left-wing" gains since then were in terms of social issues (feminism, gay marriage, civil rights) and even then not without significant conservative backlash. No one would even touch anything approaching worker's rights or economic justice without stigma or censure from both sides of the aisle.

There are plenty of real Communist scumbags in America, but barely any in positions of actual power and the ones that are mostly just turn a blind eye to the violent commies rather than directly support them

because we arnt used to this vast polarization that the internet has created in our politics
also we have no external enemy to unite us, so we are starting to see other states as enemies

it'll be nice to see a president who doesnt expand executive authority though, or a congress that wont let him at least

>The only "left-wing" gains since then were in terms of social issues (feminism, gay marriage, civil rights)
Which aren't really left wing, because those ideas are shared by liberals, libertarians etc.

bretty accurate analysis btw

Exactly. Democrats only support "left-wing" movements inasmuch as they do not directly conflict with the interest of capital.

>still thinking in left vs right and using that common barometer for countries like the USA and fucking russia
top pleb

Its moreso that the general public is shifting to extremes and of course this will have an effect on politics

Fucking lefty niggers, fucking righty niggers, fuck centrey niggers, fuck all political niggers

Left and right wing mean pretty much nothing to be honest
I mean Trumps called the right when he wants a strong state fighting the free market to create a working class utopia and Hillary was called left when she's just basically letting massive businesses run around doing whatever they want.
Things have socially been getting more left wing but labour movements are hardly a thing and wages have been stagnating since the 80s while company profit has kept skyrocketing

Obvious explanation is that the development of the society radicalizes people because it creates new problems which cannot be solved in the old political paradigm.

this is explained by the strauss-howe cyclical generation theory

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>I mean Trumps called the right when he wants a strong state fighting the free market to create a working class utopia
You got it upside down.

what are the policys of the modern day communist party?

He's the one that wants to bring manufacturing back to America through monster tariffs on China and mexico though right.
And spending the whole time complaining about trade deals when using trade deals and orkish numbers is the entire base of America's foreign policy and wealth for the last 100 years.

>implying it's just us doing that
Sup Forums is retarded and thinks anything that isn't a conservative is a full blown SJW and uses "leftist", "liberal" and "SJW" interchangeably.

He's the one that says he wants these things but he hasn't done anything to achieve them. Don't take a politician's word at face value.

Social conservatives, love religion now. Economically left.

Test

Doesn't that mean a generation shifts to either extreme instead of both at the same time?

A) Liberalism emerged the victor of modernity
B) The average westerner have yet to realize this and that they are living at the tail end of their (our) organism's life cycle

Remember that these are people that believe that China is a genuinely emerging culture and a threat in any way to Western hegemony (and not in itself entirely contingent on it)

>Why do Americans in Sup Forums like crying about le evil leftists while they actually barely have even social-democrates, not even talking about communists, anarchists, real socialists etc?
Because we dealt with them before
Did you know Galleanist anarchists bombed wall street with a horsedrawn wagon?

I see it as like a fish in a bowl sort of situation. It's very difficult for people to realise the values that inform the world around them because the contrasts are non-serious.

It's very innacurate.
Axises should be like "socially conservative - socially liberal" and "economically left - economically right". Also 3rd axis is "pro-Putin - anti-Putin". We have socially liberal nationalists like Prosvirnin, we have socially conservative commies like CPRF, etc.
If you're about CPRF, than
1) Licking Putin's ass.
2) Le ebil west.
3) Social conservatism: no lgbt, le traditional values, against western culture.
4) Patriotism (Russia stronk, Stalin was a Red Emperor).
5) Nationalization of heavy or important industry, welfare, free healthcare and education.
6) Antiglobalism.
7) Le ebil oligarchs.
On the other hand, it's a very broad party uniting anything left wing we have so there are people of any political attitudes. But their leader, Zuganov, is weird clown, who appeals mostly to the old people so this party is very unpopular among youth.

>Liberalism emerged the victor of modernity

I don't see that having any kind of longevity. The emerging of far right groups especially in younger generations seems to be on the rise already. It's very easy to go overboard with liberal politics and alienate a large part of the population, especially if your main MO is using polemic towards anyone that disagrees with you. Thank god this time the US is the test subject of that so we can just sit back and observe.

They have far left groups emerging too. Just the old neoliberal paradigm can't answer the new questions: globalization, Internet changing everything, new technologies etc.

It won't go anywhere, the far right is overwhelmingly made up of cranks and backward-thinkers. They don't have any meaningful answers.

>china isn't a threat to western hegemony
are you for real

America's Founding Myth is that everyone can rise from rag to riches. Their heroes are almost always those who rose from nothing and became something. Hence, they see socialism and by association, communism as "cheating" the system.

China IS a western country.
>I don't see that having any kind of longevity
It's not, us being able to declare a victor of modernity means that it is already dead and the long process of decay has started.

Just lol if you think that there are any genuine "far right" or "revolutionary" groups in the west though, they all just want to recreate immediate post-war (ca. 1945-1960) conditions, minus brown people.

You know in that regard I'm inclined to agree leftist extremist are better poised to win. They are trying make a new society will right wingers can't move from a paradigm that was long dead before almost all of them were born.

>China IS a western country.

Excuse the typos in about to fall asleep

t. apolitical nigger

american leftists are a repulsive mix of fat jewish professors, mexican nationalists, bitter blacks, dysgenic trannies and a whole host of other inferior elements

based galleanist anarchists

From what I know of Russian politics it seems like LDPR and CPRF are basically the same controlled opposition but one loves Nicky and the other loves Stalin.

>here’s a list of things I don’t like

>China IS a western country
Of course Chinese culture is very westernized now, but they aren't western politically or economically.
>there are any genuine "far right" or "revolutionary" groups in the west though, they all just want to recreate immediate post-war (ca. 1945-1960) conditions, minus brown people.
They represent the dissent of Americans who were fucked with globalization. No one gives a fuck about rural America, they're irrelevant, they don't fit into the modern world. They are abandoned by the society and history. Of course they want to go back, to the times they had jobs and lived decent lifes. Btw it's like that anywhere in the West, far rights are supported mostly by elders, people from rural areas, uneducated, etc. They want to restore the past but it's obviously impossible because the society of the past is dead for objective economical reasons, but they don't understand it and explain it with Jews, communist conspiracies and such.

it's true though
even in hellholes like france most leftists tend to be fairly normal

Politically and economically they're pretty western, a nation state using socialism/communism and market capitalism

Yes, also LDPR is more a meme, their leader has been our main political clown for the last 30 years.
Your post is just a butthurt but actually nationalists of any sort can't be a real leftists. As history has showed us, in any nationalist leftist party nationalist part always takes over the leftist part eventually (Baath, Mugabe, etc).

>nation state using socialism/communism and market capitalism
Almost any country in the world now is a nation state with market capitalism. Only some Gulf countries are absolute monarchies now, and only Northern Korea, Cuba and some other countries aren't capitalist.

Capitalism came from the west still

It's not a special western thing anymore.