I think Messi is better than Ronaldo

>I think Messi is better than Ronaldo

Career goals: Ronaldo 650, Messi 620
UCL Goals: Ronaldo 130, Messi 100
International goals: Ronaldo 80, Messi 60
International titles: Ronaldo 1, Messi 0
Champions League titles: Ronaldo 4, Messi 3
Premier League titles: Ronaldo 3, Messi 0

What's Romania like, anyway?

This but unironically.

That midget would've been too short to score that goal yesterday

La Liga titles: Messi 8, Ronaldo 2

>leliga

This would be a relevant argument if Donaldo played in any other league.

Damn.. never knew it was this one sided, I thought Messi was better but holy fuck these stats are impossible for lelMessi to catch now that he's past his prime whereas GOATaldo is the fine wine of the football world just getting better and better.

>Messi has played 6 more leliga seasons
huh

>International goals: Ronaldo 80, Messi 60
Scoring hat tricks against Moldova and the Faroe Islands isn't impressive. Also quite retarded to claim these stats makes him better than Messi.

Ronaldo is 4 years older than Messi you austistic fucker.

Actually, does anyone know how many international goals Ronnie has scored that weren't against complete shitters like Andorra and the Faroe Islands?

The only things Messi does better than Ronaldo are dribbling and beating up on mickey mouse clubs.

How many has Messi?

How many goals has messi scored against the Faroe Islands?

Are you retarded?

>Ronaldo Non-Friendly Goals 64 (15 Friendly Goals)
>Messi Non-Friendly Goals 33 (28 Friendly Goals)

Lmao, just lmao. Messi wouldn't even be topscorer for Argentina if friendly goals weren't considered.

Two years. Still, this thread is proof of what happens when football is reduced to mere stats.

>implying Portugal is as stacked as Jobgertina

>Scoring hat tricks against Guatemala and Hong Kong is impressive

And passing, and assisting, his vision of the pitch, and his ability to fit into a variety of positions.

Messi is pathetic

>Implying Argentina has a midfield to create chances in the first place
Messi is the guy that creates chances, and he still scores

Okay now how many of Ronnies goals where against actually decent teams, not shitters like Andorra?

>not shitters like Andorra?
you absolute retard.

Messi plays against """best""" teams from Comembol on a yearly basis because that's how their qualifying system works.
in the last 5 years Argentina met the best team on the continent (Brazil) 7 times. why the fuck would Portugal play against Germany 7 times in 5 years? there are 50 other countries in the qualifying system/friendlies.

Literally the majority of people says this.

>only matter the titles i can win
>Suddenly a domestic league isnt important
There is a reason ancelotti was sacked even after winning a cl.

Most people are retards then
Ronaldo has never scored against Brazil, Germany, France, Spain or Italy; why? He's played them all

has Ronaldo ever scored against any world champion?

So in other words you're admitting Messi plays better competition while Ronnie plays against part time farmers?

So then why are Ronnies international goals supposed to be more impressive when he clearly plays far inferior opposition?

>Messi more raw talent
>Ronaldo less talent more hard work

>argentina doesnt have a midfield
Nigga argentina is stacked as fuck especially compared to portugal

messi = sasuke
ronaldo = naruto

Ronaldinho is raw talent
Both Messi and Ronaldo work hard

>has Ronaldo ever scored against any world champion?
because Portugal isn't stacked like Argentina. if Messi played for Switzerland you think he would score regularly against Germany or Spain? no because the rest of the team is shit.

>So in other words you're admitting Messi plays better competition
and still choked against Brazil Peru and Venezuela in the last qualifiers.

>So then why are Ronnies international goals supposed to be more impressive
because he's not carried by a stacked team.

>rest of the team won the final against France without him
>shit

>Stacked
Having Higuain and Di Maria does not make your team stacked. If it does then having Deco and Paulo Ferreira is

Career totals:

Ronaldo:
Appearances: 752
Goals: 560

Messi:
Appearances: 656
Goals: 550

If you're going to troll, atleast troll properly.
Listing cups/goals without listing the total number of appearances is meaningless.

because France choked

Messi has Higuain a 90m CF next to him who scored 100+ goals for Real and 100+ goals in SerieA. show me one Portuguese player with these stats who plays next to Ronaldo. not to mention Mascherano, or Dybala.

>If it does then having Deco and Paulo Ferreira is
barely, and they reached a euro final and a wc semifinal 10+ years ago. and that was the end of stacked Portugal.

It’s one of those cases in sports of better longevity vs better peak.
Ronaldo started earlier and has been playing at a higher level in international games for club in country the past few years. Messi’s still at least as good in domestic games.
But Ronaldo has never been as good as early 10s Messi, hence the higher peak. 2011-12 Messi is the goat single season by a player, don’t even dispute it.

>all the Silva's
>Old man Quaresma
>Old man Pepe
>Nani
>Gomes
Portugal is stacked tbqh

>90m CF
Transfer fees do not reflect value or else a flop would not be possible

>2011-12 Messi is the goat single season by a player, don’t even dispute it.
*chokes against Chelsea*

This.

>Ronaldo has never been as good as early 10s Messi, hence the higher peak. 2011-12 Messi is the goat single season by a player, don’t even dispute it.
because Messi played with 7 world cup winners and their peak 2008-2012 coincided with Messi's peak, really makes you think.
afterwards Barcelona needed Neymar to save them in 2015, and they need a trillion dollars in transfers in 2018 to actually have a chance at a treble. Messi can't carry shit now.

like I said, show me one Portuguese player with those stats who plays next to Ronaldo.
you cant.
their strikers are Eder and Oliveira.
also Fonte or Renato Sanchez vs Mascherano and Dybala.

Higuain was a flop with Madrid and they won more without him; and Serie A is a joke league now which answers your Dybala question. And as for Mascherano if we're going to include defenders in there then we may as well include Pepe and Ricardo Carvalho for Ronaldo

>Premier League titles: Ronaldo 3, Messi 0

Premier League titles: Ronaldo 3, Darren Fletcher 5

State of gel merchant.

so Eder (Russian league) and Nelson Oliveira (english championship) are better than Higuain and Icardi or Aguero?
at this point you're trolling, not even a decent attempt.

>we may as well include Pepe and Ricardo Carvalho for Ronaldo
yea, include players who are 2 and 6 years older than Mascherano.

What's your point? They were playing in 2004,06,08,10,12 in their primes right?

my fucking sides, Messi, a #10 is going to surpass Ronaldo in goals when Ronaldo goes to MLS and there is nothing cucks can do about it

and they reached a semifinal in 2006 and they're shit at the wc ever since.

>What's your point?
Argentina is stacked and has players who can carry/replace Messi anytime.
Portugal is not stacked and doesn't have players who can carry/replace Ronaldo, literally zero depth.
you cant just dismiss world class players who play in top leagues, wc results, and market value just to stick to this "Argentina = Portugal" meme.

right now Argentina NT is stacked like Manchester City.
Portugal is stacked like Arsenal.

>Zero depth
So how did the win the Euro final without him?

>muh one game
because France choked as per usual, see their game at home vs Luxembourg 0-0.
also see 2017 confederation cup: yes, great depth, Portugal very stacked.

saying Portugal is stacked because Euro2016 final is like saying Leicester is stacked for recently winning PL.

>he thinks Penaldo is even better than Suarez

i say this unironically, but suarez is the biggest stat padder in the last 10 years

He's just as good of a poacher as Penaldo but a much better passer.

...

not the messi v donaldo guy (they're both overrated). but if suarez is so good then why did he never score against the big sides in the prem? shit he even got outplayed by dwight fucking gayle in the match of his life

as overrated as messi and ronaldo are they both had a more meaningful impact on their teams, and current barcelona would be nowhere without messi

Ps. Kante is the GOAT

>the match of his life
But Suarez scored in the CL final, user.

this is the epitome of
>tf
>tp
I know it's all anonymous but why talk about something you are ignorant about. even mega fucking casuals, EVEN girls and 12 year olds are aware that donaldo played for manure (manure meaning manchester united fyi)

good for him. liverpool's only decent chance at a title in the last few years was largely attributed to him and the matches vs chelsea/crystal palace could have changed the course of history but he didnt deliver.

Considering Donaldo has 2 LaLiga titles in 9 seasons, he probably wouldn't win more than 1 or 2 with another 6 attempts. At that point, he would barely reach half of Messi's current tally. That's even if you don't account for the fact that Messi will win another this season.

>half of these stats are wrong
ronaldo's still better though
>implying ronaldo didnt spend most of his man u career as a winger
if you're going to troll at least troll properly
>inb4 messhit plays in midfield now
lol no