One thing atheist seem to be unaware of is the law of causality. Simply put, every effect must have a clause.
Now let me ask you atheist, which of the following follows the law of causality? >nothing got infinitely hot and exploded into the universe for no reason Or >the universe was crafted by a being who has the capability to do so
Example 2 >random mutations that came out of nowhere and made monkeys poop out humans Or >carefully designed features from an intelligent architect
Why can't atheistic theories follow the laws of the universe but God can?
God is outside of time and therefore he bends his own rules the fuck over
Mason Garcia
Couldn't the same logic apply to the universe? The problem of the first cause makes no sense no matter how you look at it. Might as well just give up on causality.
>random mutations that came out of nowhere Why do I even reply to troll threads?
Jayden Walker
Why can't christians accept that in order for life to adapt to a constantly changing environment he had to create a system (evolution) by which organism could change and transform from generation to generation so that the offspring can survive better?
they're not trolls. americans really are this dumb.
Noah Martinez
>God is outside of time and therefore he bends his own rules the fuck over This response lmao
everytiem
Nathaniel Sanders
You mean outside the universe? There's a word for things that don't exist in our universe, it's called fiction.
Lincoln Cox
>the law of causality here's one example: some sand people wrote a book 2 thousand years ago, and because you're completely retarded, you hold its writing as absolute truth. cause and effect.
Jacob Martin
What caused your god?
Tyler Long
>you're allowed to post these shit threads with this ugly kid day in an day out and they never get deleted >meanwhile mods aggressively purge kek threads, the most popular threads on the board participation-wise wew
Gabriel Wright
By definition God is the first cause
Nolan Watson
Lel OP that's too logical my friend , please remember that the amazing complexity of the universe and indeed everything that keeps us alive was one big explosion that came from nothing and magically rearranged itself to give us galaxies, solar systems and then rocks through billions of years somehow changed to give us a planet with an atmosphere water and all the requirements for life
Believing in god is more logical than
Lel rocks turn into complex life forms guizee
Sorry to shitty grammer tablet is slow AF and gotta fix every word on French tablet
Cameron Davis
I love magic.
Jack Russell
Fuck I deleted a whole paragraph took like 15 min
JUST
Dylan Myers
Time governs our universe but that doesn't mean it's present in all of reality.
The truth is that we don't know. If you want to have faith and believe in God then do that, but stop trying to prove it beyond needing faith because thats autistic and undermines the whole concept of having faith anyway.
The same goes if you're a fedora. Don't act like you can disprove supernatural theories or develop any kind of informed likelihood on the existence of God using observed data. The questions of the ultimate nature and origins of our reality are giants. We are nothing compared to them no human is an authority on the subject.
John Nelson
You're asking a question no one knows the answer to. So why bother asking it? We may find out one day that energy literally came from nothing due to a mathematical paradox of some sort. If there was no time before there was matter, and matter had a "beginning", energy might have just sprung up from nothingness. Who knows.
These questions are just as strange and awe inspiring as the concept that there is a limit to how small something can be, or rather that there is no limit to how small something can be. Thus there are infinitely smaller and smaller components that make up all things. Or there is not.
Quantum mechanics, as best we can understand them at this point do not leave it out of the possibility that the universe could have literally came out of nothingness.
My point is that a universe without a god is just as complicated and strange as one with a god. However it is more likely that the whole god concept, since it bears so many markings of something created by man, is probably not accurate.
Charles Ortiz
I need to start proofreading my comments, I sound like a child with adhd
Angel Fisher
Can't be legit, it would violate the law of causality per OP's post.
So OP, who created your god?
Ryan Sanders
STOP USING THOSE PICTURES I HATE THAT STUPID CUNT SO MUCH IT'S NOT EVEN TOPICAL TO YOUR ANTI-ATHEISM AGENDA AND WHAT DOES THIS EVEN HAVE TO DO WITH POLITICS IN THE FIRST PLACE STAY ON Sup Forums
Dylan Gray
>poop
Please learn a little bit about biology and female plumbing, then come back.
Thomas Flores
This is based upon the assumption that causality existed before the big bang. We do not know that. Nice job begging the question, retard.
Evan Smith
Well you've butchered Aquinas' argument from motion. But I'll bite anyways
The common rebuttal is that it begs the question. Who caused God?
So there are a few possibilities God was created by something else, which means he is not all powerful, or God comes from nothing which is a contradiction with the argument itself. The last is that God created himself which is a paradox
Ethan Sullivan
Oh hell. Are you actually trying to question the Big Bang? "Oh well gee how did it all get there?" What do you mean how did it all get there? It's always been there! Are you actually asking "What came before the beginning?" Are you actually stupid? All the matter has ALWAYS been there--I could just as easily ask "Who made God?" and you'll just say, "OH he was always there", wouldn't you, you reprehensible idiot.
Nolan Cook
Are you lost? /b is next door.
Benjamin Baker
A state of non existence is an unstable condition nothing-ness creates space to become stable.
The quantum vacuum is the source of the big bang, and the evidentuary proof is the dominance of dark energy and dark matter in the universe.
How to explain that, well do you have about 8 hours to cover an overview of modern cosmology and quantum theory?
