Trump not willing to defend NATO members

What does Sup Forums think of trump and his unwillingness to defend NATO allies? How can you support trump with such a catastrophically bad idea that would destabilize the world.

If those niggers want to start pulling their weight then I'm sure Emperor Trump would be willing to reconsider his position.

I don't like the way the world is currently stabilized so I don't care.

Oh no, not NATO! Who cares.

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shit

he said if the yuropoors don't pay up he won't protect them

Literally everyone in western civilization if they're not retarded

Too much NATO shills today. What's happening?

Besides us.

We'll be fine without you nerds. Maybe you all should build militaries that aren't a joke.

I think it is a great way to get them to finally stop free-loading.

How many NATO countries actually pay the required amount for defense?

I pretty sure that the US, Britain, and France are the only members that actually do.

>Make America shit again
The Trump reality
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Trump is a confirmed Russian shill. Trump takes it up the ass from Putin.

It's actually US, Greece, UK, Poland and Estonia.

What does NATO do for us?

NATO needs to fucking go away anyway

I definitely understand where the Baltics and Eastern Europe are coming from. Russia had its chance and most all the countries in that region don't really want anything to do with Russia outside of basic trade.

That said, you need to really think of what it means to be tied up with NATO. Look at France, look at the UK, look at Italy. You join up with the United States and your country is getting NIGGED up.

That's the only goal of the United States. Total niggerization of your country and debt slavery to jews.

>USA needs to stay out of world affairs and stop being world police!!

>USA can't abandon its NATO allies!

Pick one.

Good, NATO is nothing but pissrael proxy army anyway
good riddance

Perfectly fine. As long as Americans acknowledge their german heritage and rename their country the United States of Germania.

Are you retarded? NATO isn't about members paying equal dues. NATO is about the US getting to use their land to fence in Russia. Trump went full retard today because he's too retarded to understand the point of NATO. Trump doesn't understand world politics or strategy. Turkey is shit tier. We keep them in NATO because they're located in a convenient place for the US to launch wars from. Trump doesn't get it because he's stupid.

NATO is worthless. Signing mutual defense treaties with nations like Estonia is asinine. The benefit Estonia gets from being a member of NATO is so disproportionately large compared to the benefit NATO gets from having Estonia join. They are a huge liability who contribute virtually nothing.

Fuck them. They are supposed to pay for their protection but they are refusing. I'm sure they can defend themselves from Russia.

America first!

What if, just if, Trump understands it all perfectly and simply doesn't care about what happens to Russias neighbors because he doesn't want US soldiers dying for some Eastern European country with less population than Texas or even NYC?

>NATO gets land next door to Russia
>Estonia gets protection from Russia
Equal trade. NATO is about stopping Russia from advancing and it works. Russia is falling to pieces again.

>What if we surrender to Russia because Trump is a cuck?
That's not the strong America I know. That sounds like weak cuck Brexit shit.

Have you played Victoria II user? Look at it this way. Were all in America's sphere of influence and giving Estonia up to Russia will lower their prestige.

Why not just split the world between Russia and the US? Do you think they would care if you annexed Canada or declares war on Mexico?

Why split it when we can have it all? Russia gets Russia. We get everything else. The only person who wants to take it up the ass from Russia is Cuck Trump. America is powerful. Russia is weak. But for some reason Cuckmp wants to surrender to them.

this mans got the right idea

Trump wants to ally with Russia you mong

I mean think about it. Why the hell do we have so many countries in the world at this point? Its useless and a waste of resources. While russia has to deal with europe the US can take the america's unimpeded.

he very smart man

You can spot the Government employees who say NATO is good for Americans, lol.

Yeah, us paying 70% of Nato's budget and Europeans don't even commit 2% is amazing return on our investment. Flawless logic.

One country can't rule the world, it's too big, Rome realized it and that's why they split in two. A Russo-American union would be unstoppable, even China wouldn't be able to do anything.
Also this

>ally
>with the shittiest ally ever
>the ally that can't even maintain its own borders
>constant coups and economic collapses
Oh god. Trump really is that retarded.

>One country can't rule the world, it's too big
kek
Maybe your weak country can't. America already does.

Maybe we could get rid of this whole NATO thing and be peaceful with Russia

Just a silly idea, I know

>the ally that can't even maintain its own borders
>constant coups and economic collapses
That's you though

>Maybe your weak country can't. America already does.
Think logically, no matter how strong he military is, it is still not enough to rule the entire world

Russia's anit-immigration is doing just fine

Oh, fuck off. I'm not one of those "World Peace is possible" hippies, but what are even the chances of getting in to a war with Russia?

What would even be the point of having "le convenient place" to launch from when the ENTIRE WORLD would be engulfed in nuclear fire?

I'm not too keen on the U.S. controlling the entire world via conveniently placed countries anyway, it would just be globalism by a different name anyway.

> What would even be the point of having "le convenient place" to launch from when the ENTIRE WORLD would be engulfed in nuclear fire?

THIS

Why do some people willing to nuke the world for "le justice"?

Had my suspicion about it, but that might be a good thing for Europe, eventually getting our fragile fingers out of our butts and arrange things ourself instead of being constantly reliant and controlled by the US.
Sure Russia is "based" and all, but your infantile mind think that they are all that "holier than thou" is bullshit.

You don't pay 70%, you pay somewhere between 1/5 and a 1/4 of the budget (which is still more than you should be paying but nowhere near as much as you claim) and us britbongs have overpayed our fair share too.

Well, what's wrong with making our client states pay for the privilege of our protection?

When it comes down to it do you really think they won't?

So you mean NATO refuses to support the U.S. in return? Yeah well, NATO can fuck right off. How can you fucking say that NATO is good?

It's not really. Russia is a 2nd world shit show. That pretends it isn't slowly crumbling apart.

Only like two or three non-U.S. NATO nations fulfill the 2% defense spending pledge they made upon joining. I think it's Estonia, Britain, Greece... maybe Poland.

So 27 European nations, only three or four meet that paltry goal.

So you know what? Fuck these freeloaders. I'm glad Trump says it's time they pay up or get out.

>immigrants being marched out of the country by gunpoint
sounds successful to me

Good. Fuck NATO.

Sending Americans to die for some shitty Second World Baltic state like Latvia, a country most Americans couldn't correctly point out on a world map, sounds way more "cucked".

We sent our soldiers to die for you guys in Afghanistan after 9/11 senpai

This.

We don't need any of you fuckers. And to answer the OP, he won't defend anyone who won't pay up. Pay your share and you get to be defended. Don't, and you're not getting shit. That's how it works. Want to have the US defend you all the time? Hop on the dick and pay. Don't? Good, we don't want to anyways.

The gift that keeps on giving

first step
Russia-China-Turkey v.s. Europe

second step
Russia-China-Turkey-Germany v.s. Europe

NATO ceased to be useful once the Soviet Union fell. We should have disbanded it then.

Who is semen demon?

U.K. 2.4%
Greece 2.3%
Estonia 2.0%
-Wall of 2%-
France 1.9%
Turkey 1.8% ( Byebye NATO and Eu!)
Poland 1.8%

Fuck NATO,
and FUck you OP.

Trump 2016, the man of the hour.

ETA NORMAL TOVARICH.

2013ver

this one is 2015ver

>Repeat please.

Fuck NATO. Just a gathering of cucks for Israel's wars. Thank God Trump hinted that we need to dump NATO. Let Belgium, Ukraine, Georgia and the Balts fight it out with "Russian aggressors"

I'll be cheering for you Belgium@@ (not really)

You always pull this shit. You always go 'ooh America's such a dumb brute, such a BEAST, ooh, not like us, not like EUROPE. So educated, so classy, so relaaaaxed' but then we get tired and you get all haughty like 'HOOWWWW Dare you think of leaving us! You need us! You NEED us!' It's like an emotionally abusive relationship where we provide you the labor to support yourself in socialist bliss, and you return by laughing at us, like those borgesoise you complain about so much.

Well if you want the workers to unite so much, here we fucking go, we're losing the chains. We aren't keeping our military up for a bunch of ungrateful, unsupportive, unHELPFUL little eurotrash shitters. You are the descendents of the bitch-made beta faggots who looked at a chance at a life you make with your own hands, and you shoved it of for the common and the comfortable. Well reap what you sow you lazy shits we aren't fitting your military bill anymore.

>"Oh b-but Russia will-"
WHO THE FUCK CARES WHAT RUSSIA DOES ANYMORE? They aren't the capitalist hating societal communists your gilded lecturers are, maybe some Ruskie Gulagery's what you blue-blooded cuckasauruses need! And no one's better at removing Kebab than Eastern Europe, frankly you deserve each other. We've got a whole continent and a half south we can fiddle with in the meantime.

This.

Why do other countries need help fighting their wars? We already fight enough wars we start/keep going.

>Fuck NATO!

I for one welcome our new Russian overlords.

Explain one thing Russia has done wrong in the past ten years

>you can't

They like Russia being the boogyman though.

Euro fags don't even bother paying the 2% required for their military. Fuck them, either pay up or you don't get any american guns. Maybe if we force you to invest in your milatary you'll get enough balls to kick out Ahmed.

It was dumb and short sighted. He should let foreign policy to hic vice, he doesn't get that.

>Sign a treaty
>Fail to honor said treaty
>Surprised when the other party decides not to honor the treaty either
Cucks can cry to Germany or France for protection.

Russia is only an opponent because we and NATO make into one. If we relax our stance, stop pointing missiles at Russia and stop building missile defenses around Russia, the Russians might be more inclined to treat us on friendly terms. Currently policy is passive-aggressive, and so is met with passive-aggression.

No Europeon country wants or needs our protection, except for Ukraine, and we specifically are not going to protect them ever.

We bribe Eurocuck politicians to betray their own countries and submit them to NATO/EU vassalage.

where's australia?

how about you pay your fucking bill you piece of shit and stop leeching off us? Fuck all of you all only people we should go defend are the UK and Poland the rest can fucking turn into Russian micro states and nobody would care.

It'd sure as shit uncuck all of Europe when we aren't there to solve all the big boy issues for them. Modern Europeans are like teenagers that need to grow up by learning a hard lesson. No more feel good altruistic policies, no more looking the other way on real issues, no more limp dicks heading up European states. Europe will be great again too.

I've never understood why, since the fall of the Soviet Union and communism, why haven't US/Russian relations drastically improved. It seems natural to me that we should be helping each other out

He's willing if they're willing to pay and not be leeches. Leeches don't have respect for their host, just as junkies have no respect for their dealer and will neck him the first chance they can get for more of their fix

To make people respect you, you need to hit them, and then shake their hand and be good friends.

Aussies understand this, seems Euro cucks don't. Maybe that's why you cucks have gone soft.

This. The United States needs NATO more than NATO needs the US. It was originally a bulwark against the iron curtain, but after the Cold War, it simply became another arm of the US military, keeping those countries under American sphere of influence.

Without NATO, Russia will gradually extend its influence westward. They're already backing right-wing parties which are getting increasing support, so this would be easy for them.

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Weird you said NATO doesn't need the US and then go off to say Europe would become Russia's bitch if we left it. This isn't the cold war we have no real reason to keep fencing Russia in and can actually benefit our economy to start working with them at the expense of some immigrant loving soon to be 3rd world shitholes.

>We keep them in NATO because they're located in a convenient place for the US to launch wars from.

What if Americans don't want to launch wars anymore? Those damn goyim, amirite?

>Weird you said NATO doesn't need the US and then go off to say Europe would become Russia's bitch if we left it.

It's not weird at all. Europe under Russian influence would be a nightmare for the US.

that is under the opinion we keep giving them the cold shoulder just because we didn't like them 40 years ago

You're in pisswater ANZUS which doesn't have an article 5 style clause.

You take that back now !!
Stop bullying small Eesti !!

>Russia gets Russia. We get everything else.
>Russia gets Russia.
>we get lands full of niggers, spics, and leftists europeans

I think we're getting the raw end of this deal.

Relations were great in the 90ies, US sent over Chicago school economic advisors. Russia implemented reforms, everything went to shit and Russia went back to authoritarianism